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vasiliy-feoktistov, 02.01.2010 14:38

Something didn't have a topic for them before and I wanted to make it.
I start with a photo of Phymatopus hecta Linnaeus, 1758. (male)
Picture taken: 27.06.2009 Here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.
Many thanks to Sasibo Zhuk (u)for determining the gender.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 03.01.2010 23: 13

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02.01.2010 14:58, vasiliy-feoktistov

A couple of Triodia sylvina Linnaeus, 1761
Pictures taken: 27.07.2005 here: M. O. Sergiev Posad district of the district of the village. Golkovo.

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02.01.2010 15:27, Egorus

At the beginning of September, now last year, in the vicinity
ofMelitopol flew very strongly, landed anywhere...
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02.01.2010 15:57, vasiliy-feoktistov

At the beginning of September, now last year, in the vicinity
ofMelitopol flew very strongly, landed anywhere...

Yes, they are "flocks" and usually fly (with us, too), but you don't have a photo of Hepialus humuli?
Somehow, we have lost it somewhere recently (it used to be full). Or just don't get on it?

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02.01.2010 16:03, Ilia Ustiantcev

Hepialus humuli Linnaeus, 1758
Female: Moscow, Mozhaisky district, 22.06.2009
Male: Moscow region, Odintsovo district, 29.07.2009
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02.01.2010 16:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

Phymatopus hecta Linnaeus, 1758. (female)
Picture taken: 26.07.2009 Here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.
Many thanks to Sasibo Zhuk for identifying the species and gender.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 02.01.2010 17: 30

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02.01.2010 17:05, Zhuk

Here's another beast over here. I will be grateful if you define (edit).
Picture taken: 26.07.2009 Here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.

P. hecta
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02.01.2010 17:07, vasiliy-feoktistov

P. hecta

The same thing? Does it vary like this? (see the first post).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 02.01.2010 17: 10

02.01.2010 17:13, Zhuk

The same thing? Does it vary like this? (see the first post).

yes, they are changeable, it happens that there are a lot of spots at all

as far as I could see from these murky photos, in the first post there is a male, and this is a female

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02.01.2010 17:18, Yakovlev

Crazy band. I have photos of about 200 species. then I add a little bit.
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02.01.2010 17:23, vasiliy-feoktistov

yes, they are changeable, it happens that there are a lot of spots at all

as far as I could see from these murky photos, in the first post there is a male, and this is a female

Thanks! Yes, the photos certainly leave much to be desired. They don't work for me. I edit 2 posts.

02.01.2010 17:24, vasiliy-feoktistov

Crazy band. I have photos of about 200 species. then I put it down a little.

Thank you, Roman.

02.01.2010 18:15, Yakovlev

Several types from the collection of the Humboldt University Zoological Museum (Berlin, Germany)

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02.01.2010 21:01, Pavel Morozov

Oh-oh-oh, yeah!
Phassus regius was seen in the original, and even fresh butterflies - very awesome!
Question: If I post a photo of a small worm from Nepal, can you help me identify it?
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03.01.2010 15:53, Yakovlev

The situation for the definition of thin shells is now deplorable. There are still good groups that are waiting for their curators-thinworms, metarbelids, eupterotids (although they seem to be sherstit Nassig, and Vadim Zolotukhin understood a little about them), tirithids, but it seems that some Pole has already started actively analyzing them, and has already published a monograph. A wonderful family of fan wings. there is still room to turn around... very poorly made tropical waves...
Pasha, I don't think anyone can identify the Nepalese tonkworm.

03.01.2010 16:06, Pavel Morozov

The situation for the definition of thin shells is now deplorable. There are still good groups that are waiting for their curators-thinworms, metarbelids, eupterotids (although they seem to be sherstit Nassig, and Vadim Zolotukhin understood a little about them), tirithids, but it seems that some Pole has already started actively analyzing them, and has already published a monograph. A wonderful family of fan wings. there is still room to turn around... very poorly made tropical waves...
Pasha, I don't think anyone can identify the Nepalese tonkworm.

Yeah, especially since I have it the size of a hecta, and in color-nothing outstanding.

03.01.2010 16:09, Yakovlev

Just tell me what the hell's going on." I have photographed many views from India, maybe what will get

03.01.2010 16:17, Macroglossum

Just tell me what the hell's going on." I photographed many views from India, maybe something will happen

Well Hepialid ka and kossid also smell like the beginning of evolution

03.01.2010 22:34, А.Й.Элез

I sort of caught the light in the fall of that crap about what Blinky and Nikolaeva tryndeli that introducent will put up a new view for the Moscow region during the week
mladets fystaflyay tu crap shto tibe eka their zatrindeli pazyriM

03.01.2010 22:35, Yakovlev

The Cossids, of course, are children compared to the Hepialids.
However, there are also dinosaurs of the butterfly world. There are also families close to cossids-ratardids, dudgeonids, metarbelids. Now maybe I'll put something up. And here. They'll just get lost in the cossides. I would call the topic hepialids and turbid groups of macro-lepidoptera.

03.01.2010 22:37, Alexandr Zhakov

The Cossids, of course, are children compared to the Hepialids.
However, there are also dinosaurs of the butterfly world. There are also families close to cossids-ratardids, dudgeonids, metarbelids. Now maybe I'll put something up. And here. They'll just get lost in the cossides. I would call the topic hepialids and turbid groups of macro-lepidoptera.


We're waiting.

03.01.2010 22:44, Yakovlev

This thing is from the Metarbelidae. It was described as a cossida, photo from a museum in Paris. No one deals with them. Osonal wealth in SE Asia and Africa. There are a couple of species in Arabia as well. I am sure that this group is less studied than cossides. That's who has the money could take, not bullshit like diaries to do and normal business and for 10 years to make a book Metrarbelidae Mundi. And the whole world will fall at your feet.
Now the group is engaged (or rather trying to do) one low-energy German, but with his pace, he will not go far. Therefore, go for it!

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03.01.2010 23:08, Yakovlev

This thing, Ptylomacra senex Wlk, was described in cossides. It is clear that this is not cossida. I think this is a eupterotid or a similar group. Lives in Australia. Photo from the Dresden Museum

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03.01.2010 23:09, vasiliy-feoktistov

I would call the topic hepialids and turbid groups of macro-lepidoptera.

OK By popular request. We are doing it! smile.gif
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04.01.2010 1:18, Vlad Proklov

Roman - what do you feel about the Meharia genus?
Schorl, in his monograph, does not seem to have considered him a cossid at all?
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04.01.2010 1:38, Yakovlev

I had a desire to describe a separate family for this genus. After numerous consultations with the powerful, I have limited myself to identifying a new subfamily in the Cossidae. When I cooked the female, I hoped that it was a monotreous group in general - then it would definitely be a family. No, these are ditritic moths. In my opinion, which is based only on intuition, this is something glass-like, like a brachodid. Although the genitals do not pull at all. Their genitals are surprisingly specific. But to get into the macro-systematics, you need to be at the level of Blue or Mine. I don't think of them in categories. School no.
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04.01.2010 12:40, chebur

Hepialus humuli Linnaeus, 1758
Male
02.07.07 Chekhov district MO
image: 02.07. 07_Hepialus_humuli_L._Lyubuchany.JPG
image: 02.07. 07_Hepialus_humuli_L._Любучаны__3_.JPG

Female
16.06.07 Moscow
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04.01.2010 12:42, chebur

Korscheltellus lupulinus Linnaeus, 1758

Male
12.06.08 Chekhov district MO
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Female
05.06.08 Chekhov district MO
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04.01.2010 12:45, chebur

Triodia sylvina Linnaeus, 1761

Male
13.08.07 Moscow
Wraps his wings around his body, like representatives of the genus Clostera from Notodontidae
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Female
18.08.09 Chekhov district MO
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04.01.2010 19:19, Pavel Morozov

Just like I promised.
Who would it be? Central Nepal, Pokhara, July ' 08, 900 m

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05.01.2010 19:49, Yakovlev

Let's add exotics
And no one will help you Pasha until one of the Russians invests money and deals with a posh group

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05.01.2010 21:19, Yakovlev

Well. right now and in the daytime work mass smile.gif. DNA Barcodes will not let the taxonomy die quietly and will drive the collector crazy :D

That's the trouble

05.01.2010 23:12, Pavel Morozov

Well, actually, something's cleared up.
The thinworm is identified by Barko as Thitarodes limbui Ueda, 2000
. It turns out that this is a rare thing known from a single specimen.
Oleg-many thanks!
By the way, a little bit about how I put it together. On the territory of the hotel where we stayed there are several gazebos with lighting. So, in the gazebo in the evening, he was seen. I now praise myself for being ahead of the gecko, who was apparently ready to "scratch" him. And at that time, there was an almost empty screen under my DRV.
So, against the background of the poor results of the Nepalese trip, two butterflies-the cocoonworm Alompra ferruginea female and Thitarodes limbui correct the overall impression.

Does Hepialus antarcticus come from Patagonia?

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14.01.2010 1:54, Tigran Oganesov

Zenophassus schamyl Christoph, 1888
Sochi, 21.08.2009, arrived at the light.

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14.01.2010 2:16, Vlad Proklov

Zenophassus only smile.gif~
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14.01.2010 10:43, Macroglossum

That's the trouble

Well, their DNA-kaki Ressovsky also said that the zoologist's self-consciousness is important And the rest is a game

14.01.2010 10:56, Guest

I would like to see a photo of Gazoryctra dapp. Preferably both sexes.

14.01.2010 15:47, Yakovlev

Well, their DNA-Kaki Ressovsky also said that the zoologist's self-awareness is important And the rest is a game

I'm just rereading Granin right now... almost in the right place

14.01.2010 17:43, barko

Pharmacis carna (Denis & Schiffermuller, 1775)

Slovenia, Julian Alps, July

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male
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female
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Pharmacis fusconebulosa (de Geer, 1778)

male
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female
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Triodia sylvina (Linnaeus, 1761)

Hungary, September-October

male
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female
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Korscheltellus lupulinus (Linnaeus, 1758)

Hungary, Budapest, May

male
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female

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14.01.2010 18:26, Macroglossum

I'm just rereading Granin right now... almost in the right place

"Bison" is still the worst work, Granin's emotions are definitely interesting, but read the Memories better... About two-wheeled ladybirds and drinkies with Heisenberg about the magnificent life of a zoologist

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