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Subgenus Orinocarabus

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rpanin, 23.02.2012 2:15

Carabus (Orinocarabus) alpestris hoppei Germar, 1824
19 мм
W Austria, Tirol, Innsbruck, Hafelekar Mts h=2200m, Manfred Egger leg.

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24.02.2012 15:36, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) alpestris alpestris Sturm, 1815
20 mm
C Austria, E-Alps, Windischgarsten, Mt Hoher Nock, VII.2004, Manfred Egger leg.

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13.03.2012 19:59, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) linnaei macairei Dejean, 1826
SW-Romania, Banat, Resita - Valiug, 29.V- 9.VI.2005, Krause R., Baros, Pittner leg.

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26.09.2013 16:04, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) alpestris adamellicola Ganglbauer, 1904
19mm
N-Italy, Brescia prov., Bagolino, Adamello Mts, Passo del Maniva env., h=2000m, VIII.2011, M.Monzini leg.

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29.09.2013 13:12, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) fairmairei heteromorphus Daniel, 1896
самка,19 мм
NW-Italy, Aosta region, Champorcher env., Mt.Dondenaz, VIII.2008, V.Monzini leg.

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03.10.2013 22:31, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) fairmairei fenestrellanus Beuthin, 1899
20mm
NW-Italy, Piemonte prov., Cottian Alps, Mt Albergian h=2450m

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31.12.2013 17:55, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) bertolinii Kraatz, 1878
19 mm
NE-Italy, Dolomites-Alps, Trentino prov., Rolle Pass env., Malga Fosse h=2000m, 8-28.VI.2013, Manfred Egger leg.

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10.01.2014 21:17, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) alpestris dolomitanus Mandl, 1956
18 мм
NE-Italy,South Tyrol, Dolomites-Alps, 500 m left of Würzjoch, Gömaalm - at the foot Mt.Peitlerkofel h=2100m, 28.VII-17.VIII.2013, Manfred Egger leg.

This post was edited by rpanin - 12.01.2014 03: 39

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15.01.2014 15:34, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) linnaei linnaei Panzer, 1812 (aberrant)
female,21 mm
W-Ukraine, hr. Chernogora, local point, h=800 m, 8. VII-24. VIII. 2012.

Carabus (Orinocarabus) linnaei linnaei n. scopolii Dejean, 1826
female, 22mm
W-Ukraine, okr. Lviv, Podillia village, Vinnikovsky forest, 20. IV. -13. V. 2011


These forms have more differences than the officially recognized linnaei subspecies.
The subjective difference between them is only in one thing-there was no idiot who describes such a thing to please philatelists and commercial interests. smile.gif

This post was edited by rpanin - 15.01.2014 15: 52

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15.01.2014 18:42, I.solod

Honestly Ruslan, I don't see a big difference in them - a little lighter, a little darker. like the other forms of the to from it and subspecies I do not distinguish there at all in this taxon.

That's why there wasn't a JERK to describe them, and there won't be any.

15.01.2014 19:04, rpanin

Honestly Ruslan, I don't see a big difference in them - a little lighter, a little darker. like the other forms of the to from it and subspecies I do not distinguish there at all in this taxon.

That's why there wasn't a JERK to describe them, and there won't be any.

Yes, well, darker, if only. Pronotum is more transverse ,more flat , and a markedly different elitist structure.
Here it is better to see on a smaller scale if compared with Podolsk.
http://carabidae.org/carabidae/taxa/linnae...anzer-1812.html

I also don't see a difference in very many subspecies.

15.01.2014 19:32, I.solod

After you tinker with the archiplects, you simply stop really paying attention to such trifles - unless they are dominant in 90% of individuals.

15.01.2014 22:18, rpanin

After you tinker with the archiplects, you simply stop really paying attention to such trifles - unless they are dominant in 90% of individuals.

So I am the same, this is just an ecological form from the nominative, and not a subspecies (and thank God!)

12.02.2015 23:35, rpanin

Carabus (Orinocarabus) pedemontanus raynaudianus Deuve & Simard, 1977
21 mm
E France, Alpes-Maritimes, Isola env., Colle Santa-Anna h=2309 m, 44*13',127" N, 07*06',242"E, 31.-7.VIII..2012

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18.01.2021 13:36, Honza

Orinocarabus sp.

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