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Насекомовед, 07.01.2007 21:04

What is most interesting is that for some reason the biological series of Vestnik MSU and Byull. MOIP were excluded from the latest edition of the list. This is at a cursory glance. Maybe some other biological journals in which it was possible to submit entomological articles fell out of favor frown.gif

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08.01.2007 0:34, Guest

There are only 3 journals for the taxonomy of insects

Zoological Journal * 70333 on Biological Sciences
, Izvestiya RAS. Biological series * 70350 in biological sciences
Entomological Review * 71110 in biological Sciences
This is something with something...

08.01.2007 1:23, guest: Proctos

What else is there in Russia?
1. Zoosystematica Rossica
2. Russian Entomological Journal
3. Eurasian Entomological Journal
4. Far Eastern entomologist

Well, as an addition to the Bulletin of Zoology (Kiev)

And the already mentioned Vestnik MSU ser. biol., Bullyuten MOIP, but the taxonomy does not rule like that.

All sorts of almanacs published by private individuals will certainly never be recognized in 11
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08.01.2007 1:58, Shofffer

What else is there in Russia?

Have you forgotten the Caucasian Entomological Bulletin?
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08.01.2007 22:35, KDG

What else is there in Russia?
1. Zoosystematica Rossica
2. Russian Entomological Journal
3. Eurasian Entomological Journal
4. Far Eastern entomologist

Well, as an addition to the Bulletin of Zoology (Kiev)

there is also the Caucasian Entomological Bulletin. It is new - but it has been published for 2 years and the last year under the" roof " of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

09.01.2007 10:36, Pirx

What else is there in Russia?
1. Zoosystematica Rossica
2. Russian Entomological Journal
3. Eurasian Entomological Journal
4. Far Eastern entomologist

Well, as an addition to the Bulletin of Zoology (Kiev)


I will add for Ukraine ;-) - News of the Kharkiv Entomological Society (by the way, the only Ukrainian purely entomological journal). It comes out, however, irregularly. He's so fat.

09.01.2007 16:22, Ampedus

I will add for Ukraine ;-) - News of the Kharkiv Entomological Society (by the way, the only Ukrainian purely entomological journal). It comes out, however, irregularly. He's so fat.


Eversmannia magazine is also being published, but so far it is only gaining momentum. The circulation is small, but, on the other hand, people publish with pleasure. In the beginning, it was conceived as entomological research of the Tula region and neighboring regions, but now it has already reached Russia and neighboring regions. It is published regularly-once a quarter, but often the last 2 issues are merged into one, and come out after NG holidays (one of which I already have the good fortune to keep). There was also 1 special issue-R. Yakovlev's monograph was published.

10.01.2007 4:48, guest: proctos

All this is very good, more journals are good and different, but the Higher Attestation Commission does not recognize such almanacs published by private individuals and not undergoing peer review...
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such publications in Europe, where their own parallel life boils...

10.01.2007 14:45, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Hi!
All this is very good, more journals are good and different, but the Higher Attestation Commission does not recognize such almanacs published by private individuals and not undergoing peer review...
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such publications in Europe, where their own parallel life boils...


Aha, and such a mess because of this that you don't know "kuda beg"...

11.01.2007 12:39, Ampedus

All this is very good, more journals are good and different, but the Higher Attestation Commission does not recognize such almanacs published by private individuals and not undergoing peer review...
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such publications in Europe, where their own parallel life boils...


Why not-the Tula branch of REO... Why is it not like reviewing?.. I will not list all of them, but A.V. Sviridov, S. Yu. Sinev, A. I. Shatalkin. But there is no WAKA in the list, and well ... the main thing is not a list, the main thing is the publication of reliable data.

12.01.2007 14:13, Насекомовед

What can there be about regional REO journals when the "Works of REO" published by ZIN in St. Petersburg are not included in the list of the Higher Attestation Commission?

12.01.2007 16:38, Brandashmyg

The Vakov list is really perplexing. I recommend Kupriyanov's article http://polit.ru/science/2006/12/12/vaklist.html

12.01.2007 23:58, guest: Кирилл

And lately I've been completely oblivious to the bureaucratic games in WAKA. All my attempts to get into this list ended in nothing, despite a lot of papers from very respected people, including the director of the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences and so on.
I have been publishing the Russian Entomological Journal for 15 years and will continue to publish it. For me, the most important thing is the quality of articles and respect, i.e. subscription. For most authors, the same thing is important.
Let's not confuse officials from the Higher Attestation Commission and real science.
It is quite obvious that the Higher Attestation Commission recognizes and will continue to recognize only highly approved state offices, and not private shops. So I founded and financed the first year of the "Caucasian Entomological Bulletin", and then the local Rostov super-academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences took it away and immediately made it to the list of the Higher Attestation Commission. Very simple.
A year ago, I was called for an interview at the MAIK-Interperiodic to the local brothers. They gave me coffee to drink. They say-give me the magazines, and we are in the Higher Attestation Commission with one left... Even the editorial board was allowed to leave. Only here we organize a foreign subscription for several thousand pupaars a year, as for the English versions of Entomol. reviews and Paleontol. the log. I have a subscription for 60-70 pupaars, and they are offended. Fig im!
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14.01.2007 0:50, KDG

So I founded and financed the first year of the "Caucasian Entomological Bulletin", and then the local Rostov super-academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences took it away and immediately made it to the list of the Higher Attestation Commission.

Yes, this zhrnala is not on the VAKOV list... At least in the December 2006 version

14.01.2007 8:34, Ampedus

And lately I've been completely oblivious to the bureaucratic games in WAKA.

I totally agree with you. Quality is above all else, and the Higher Attestation Commission is a separate state, and if the Higher Attestation Commission skips heaps of "left-wing" dissertations, then I am very pleased that some of the journals are not included in its list, but are performed at a high professional level.

14.01.2007 14:48, guest: Гость

Is the MOIP Bulletin definitely excluded from the HAC list? In the list that hangs on the site of the Higher Attestation Commission, it is there.

14.01.2007 15:24, Насекомовед

Yes, indeed, in the last VAK file Bull. MOIP otd. biological is present. And Vestnik MSU, ser. 16. Biology is also included. Right.

A little investigation:

Today at work I looked at the file from the HAC website, on the basis of which I spoke about the absence of logs: it has the name "per. rtf", created on 29.09.2006 at 11.54. The file in which these logs already exist is newer and has a different name and format "per1.doc", created on 29.09.2006 in 12.30 pm. So, the WAC posted different versions of the lists for a little over half an hour, and I just got into this period of time.

This post was edited by Insect Expert - 16.01.2007 21: 55

23.01.2007 12:48, Aleksandr Ermakov

Eversmannia magazine is also being published, but so far it is only gaining momentum. The circulation is small, but, on the other hand, people publish with pleasure. In the beginning, it was conceived as entomological research of the Tula region and neighboring regions, but now it has already reached Russia and neighboring regions. It is published regularly-once a quarter, but often the last 2 issues are merged into one, and come out after NG holidays (one of which I already have the good fortune to keep). There was also 1 special issue-R. Yakovlev's monograph was published.

Can you share the information "for authors"?! Or is your editorial portfolio full?

23.01.2007 13:10, Dmitrii Musolin

yes, it would be nice to make a website for the magazine, otherwise very few people do not know... There is also a free hosting service... With a list of articles and rules...

15.03.2007 10:07, Cornborer

"Lately, I've been completely oblivious to the bureaucratic games in VAKA. "
Still, Kirill Glebovich, don't give up the torture. An academic degree does not bother anyone, and it can not be issued without a VAK smile.gif
"All this is very good, more magazines are good and different"
is certainly good, but, unfortunately, there are very few of them - if at all, because 1) they do not meet the modern requirements of electronic document management, 2) elements of corruption are familiar. But the Vakov lever could become a powerful element of influence on publications - to direct them on the path of modernization wink.gif

15.03.2007 14:44, guest: Brandashmyg

"Lately, I've been completely oblivious to the bureaucratic games in VAKA. "
Still, Kirill Glebovich, don't give up the torture. An academic degree does not bother anyone, and it can not be issued without a VAK smile.gif
"All this is very good, more magazines are good and different"
is certainly good, but, unfortunately, there are very few of them - if at all, because 1) they do not meet the modern requirements of electronic document management, 2) elements of corruption are familiar. But the Vakov lever could become a powerful element of influence on publications - to direct them on the path of modernization wink.gif


wow! "Modern requirements of electronic document management" - it just sounds awesome! Especially against the background of the dangerous nonsense that appeared in the latest Zool Code. Items.

15.03.2007 17:26, Cornborer

"Modern requirements of electronic document management "- it just sounds intimidating"
smile.gif
To understand what we are talking about, it is enough, for example, to go to the website of a normal publishing house, say, Blackwell, for example, Biol. J. Linnean Soc . - this is so, offhand. just that there is an article of the same rules smile.gifand the same Entomol. obozr. or Ecology.

How much an electronic impression/subscription costs in pupaars is the second thing (it's hard to agree with K. G. here) - the main thing is that it should be accessible and electronic. Basically. And then the price, that's the second thing. In addition, every author tries to post electronic copies of their articles, this is also a sobya price; but still, this way is partisan, necessary, of course ,but raresmile.gif.

And all this "scary sounding" is necessary, it is clear why. For example, to lay the foundation for creating domestic systems like http://scholar.google.com/.

"dangerous nonsense that ..."let's put it this way-offtop, no comments.

10.08.2007 19:00, Tentator

"Zoosystematica Rossica" is now on the WAKA list!

11.08.2007 9:58, MoTVei

They say that publications in scientific journals are important for admission to graduate school. So what is the best magazine to publish in? Considering the ratio of price and quality, as well as other important points.

11.08.2007 10:24, Dmitrii Musolin

They say that publications in scientific journals are important for admission to graduate school. So what is the best magazine to publish in? Considering the ratio of price and quality, as well as other important points.


Somewhat strange question statement... I would recommend Nature, Science, Annu.Rev. Entomol. -- cheap (free) and angry! And, I think, a pass to graduate school in good universities! But the question is, do you have such cool data ?

So the first question, really, is what data you have on hand. A lot depends on the subject matter... There are a lot of journals, but when you need to publish THIS PARTICULAR DATA, it turns out that the choice is not so great... And what language is the article in? And in which country is the desired postgraduate program?

As a matter of principle, I don't publish in paid magazines...

11.08.2007 10:25, Dmitrii Musolin

Yes, and the fact that having articles for admission is a big plus is true, of course...

23.01.2008 13:36, Насекомовед

Today I looked at the list of domestic HAC magazines and found two good news: Proceedings of the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences (in addition) and Ecology and Life (in the main list). Examples of articles on entomology in Ecology and Life can be viewed here (scanned in JPG: http://entomology.ru/archiv_text/benedikto...iktov-2007a.zip and http://entomology.ru/archiv_text/benedikto...iktov-2007b.zip I feel that soon "Chemistry and Life" and "Nature" will also be included lol.gif

23.01.2008 20:25, Salix

I wonder if we actually have peer-reviewed biology/entomology journals? Well, when your manuscript is actually read by two anonymous reviewers, pestering them with their comments and advice, and then look-even wrap it up? Or a solid "friendly" review?

23.01.2008 23:07, Salix

This is true, the main thing is to live in harmony with yourself wink.gifLike, do what you should, and come what may.

24.01.2008 0:34, Aleksey Adamov

I wonder if we actually have peer-reviewed biology/entomology journals? Well, when your manuscript is actually read by two anonymous reviewers, pestering them with their comments and advice, and then look-even wrap it up? Or a solid "friendly" review?


A little bit not about magazines, but about reviewing.
I had experience in organizing collections of scientific articles. In the first issue of the collection "General and Theoretical Biology: on the essence of life" : http://srusrs.narod.ru/ I specifically did not" discuss "their materials with the authors, I wanted to" leave the material " for further discussions. And there were works that I "otshival".

In the collection "Fauna and Ecology of insects": http://srusrs.narod.ru/fauna1.html (there were very few authors), I didn't have to "reject" anyone, but I discussed the materials with almost every author (contact), and made joint changes.

I wanted to start the life of collections that differ from most similar ones, relatively narrow and strict subjects, completeness of works (as opposed to 1-page theses, which can be written in an evening, not only with the left foot, but also with the right ear, with your eyes closedsmile.gif), their reviewability and relative accessibility.


Now these projects are suspended. Faculty riled wall.gifup

22.01.2009 1:06, entomologist

Dear Kirill (we won't mention your last names, everyone already knows who you are on this forum, let me remind you that you are also one of the respected editors of this magazine). Let's put everything in its place, so as not to mislead colleagues. You paid for the first 2 issues of the Caucasian Entomological Bulletin (.... thousand rubles per issue), while demanding that direct members of the editorial board sell this magazine and pay you. For some time now, this journal has received a sponsor from the Academy of Sciences and the journal (needless to say) began to be published in this very Academy (the amount of publication of one issue is completely incomparable with the above amount, although I know firsthand that the editors of this publication are extremely grateful to you). The first issues sponsored by you were published on toilet offset (everyone knows this), the rest (early issues) are published on good glossy paper, with color inserts, where specialists can fully reflect the object of research. The editorial board deals exclusively with the scientific and technical component of the journal (and not trade for your benefit), reviews of the journal are very flattering (ask your Moscow and Zino colleagues, including the chairman of the REO, who is happy to publish there and praises this publication, along with all Zino colleagues). Alimov paid special attention to this magazine and separately praised the Rostov branch of REO for this publication. In addition, the journal goes to MANY European, American, Asian and Canadian institutions, which eagerly exchange it for their expensive journals, but few people know about your publications (without detracting from their scientific merits) abroad. So maybe VAK is right, greed does not lead to good.

P.S. The Caucasian Entomological Bulletin is not included in the list of the Higher Attestation Commission.

Sincerely, entomologist.
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23.01.2009 9:28, guest: Stan

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29.01.2009 4:00, entomologist

Please excuse me, but at first your speech was about high science, and then it descended to banal money (read carefully the last indignant statement). This begs the question of what you are more sick of. And about your " ... " comment: Yes, the" genital apparatus " of RAS is much larger than yours.
P. S. German, English and French colleagues are interested in your magazines, which they know about from third-hand sources (far from yours).

29.01.2009 8:55, Yakovlev

I think this topic is very relevant, and the absence of KMK Press magazines in the HAC list is just a mess, one Eurasian EJ made its way through and then only to the candidate list.
At least KMK prints something that is very similar to a magazine, and is affordable, and the early editions, apparently due to the fact that they use machines from the time of I. Guttenberg (not because of poverty, but because of rabid conservatism), have prices that are too expensive and cannot even take such a milestone as color printing. And it's also lovely that a typist sits in a number of magazines and reprints your text. Archaic scary.
the scientific level of KMC publications is very high, but the steepness of the Russian Academy of Sciences outweighs and does not allow colleagues to publish quickly. How many times were there situations when taxa became synonyms due to the fact that they were published 3 years after entering the press?
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29.01.2009 12:55, Coelioxys

The Eurasian Journal is already on the doctoral list, by the way...
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29.01.2009 13:54, guest: Yakovlev

Hooray, there is a God in the world

29.01.2009 20:00, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Here, I can advertise it:
http://www.zin.ru/journals/trudyzin/index.html
I warn you right away - the review is real, they will find fault (I promise).
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30.01.2009 6:33, Yakovlev

Zin's works are an excellent publication. In the West, people are constantly interested.
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02.02.2009 9:13, guest: Stan

Please excuse me, but at first your speech was about high science, and then it descended to banal money (read carefully the last indignant statement). This begs the question of what you are more sick of. And about your " ... " comment: Yes, the" genital apparatus " of RAS is much larger than yours.
P. S. German, English and French colleagues are interested in your magazines, which they know about from third-hand sources (far from yours).


I have not encountered, and I do not intend to encounter, the "genital apparatus of the Russian Academy of Sciences", so I am absolutely parallel to its size smile.gif. I have worked and will continue to work independently and for my own pleasure, because I am financially independent. gf gl.

16.12.2009 14:02, Penzyak

Colleagues, and where in the NETWORK can you read / even briefly reviews of published articles!?? RJ alas in the province is not available. At least know what entomologists are currently doing. Especially in lepidopterology!

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