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15.02.2012 19:37, Alexandr Zhakov

An instance is a document. And an oral message is an oral message smile.gif

It depends on whose collectionconfused.gif, we know the cases yes.gif.
And an example of the opposite. Charaxes jasius krymsky is not in the collections, but few people have doubts about its presence there.
Although I even saw collectible Crimean material on TV. But this is in a different topic. smile.gif
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15.02.2012 22:25, okoem

No....

Well, I don't even know what else to assume. It seems that there are no other similar plants in the Crimea...
Although.. Once on another forum, I identified a plant from a well-known area by a verbal description: "like a Christmas tree, only small." confused.gif What I just did not change my mind... wall.gifIt turned out... Bieberstein's bruise.
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16.02.2012 0:07, Archypus

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16.02.2012 0:24, Kharkovbut

according to the verbal description: "like a Christmas tree, only small." confused.gif
The tree there is taco-o-oo. "A Christmas tree or something?" "You're a Christmas tree yourself! They say to you, vo! © tongue.gif

16.02.2012 11:59, Victor Titov

Charaxes jasius krymsky is not in the collections, but few people have doubts about its presence there.
Although I even saw collectible Crimean material on TV. But this is in a different topic. smile.gif

Here in the "rarest butterflies" section about Charaxes jasius in Crimea
http://www.crimaniak.com.ua/books/records/9_2.htm
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16.02.2012 13:12, Wild Yuri

most likely, it was Shamil's thinworm-it picks a bush at dusk and draws eights over it, and for an unlimited time

Precisely! In Sochi, I saw some of them doing pirouettes under streetlights. The local entomologist said it was Shamil's thinworm.

16.02.2012 17:46, Aaata

most likely, it was Shamil's thinworm-it picks a bush at dusk and draws eights over it, and for an unlimited time

About unlimited time... I would not say that the butterfly is crepuscular and even before the onset of total darkness completes its pendulum-like flight and hides. I have repeatedly observed this-at least check your watch smile.gif

16.02.2012 17:53, А.Й.Элез

Just not for unlimited time, but no more than fifteen minutes.

16.02.2012 18:05, Aaata

Just not for unlimited time, but no more than fifteen minutes.

Yes, somewhere like that.

16.02.2012 21:24, ulik

Well, I don't even know what else to assume. It seems that there are no other similar plants in the Crimea...
Although.. Once on another forum, I identified a plant from a well-known area by a verbal description: "like a Christmas tree, only small." confused.gif What I just did not change my mind... wall.gifIt turned out... Bieberstein's bruise.


I remember the place approximately...I'll go take a picture soon...
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16.02.2012 23:23, Hierophis

It is strange, but very tryun to remember such an insect that ran away, and then was never found smile.gif

Although, I never really set goals to catch insects. The only thing that can be noted is the parasitic wasps that parasitize tarantulas and argyops - it is very difficult to catch! But not when the wasp is busy with the spider wink.gif

But then I remembered one case, maybe I already wrote about it somewhere, how long ago I found the most unusual os nest in my practice. It was a very large diameter nest of wasps in the ground, which I found at the end of summer, watched it, and then when at the end of November it became so cold that the wasps almost did not fly, I decided to disassemble this nest.

From the appearance of the working wasps, I realized that German wasps live there. And what a surprise I had when I dismantled the nest and saw that the honeycombs there are made like an ordinary wasp! But this was not the most interesting thing, and the most interesting thing was that there were no "uterine honeycombs"!!! The nest consisted of approx. 9!! tiers of honeycombs with working cells, it was in spite of the fact that December is already coming, a bunch of working wasps, males, but not a single young uterus, which is understandable, there are no uterine honeycombs, the tiers they put (the last two or three) occupied the honeycombs with working cells. Moreover, the males had signs of an ordinary wasp.
What reason prompted the wasp not to lay uterine cells, it is impossible to understand, the uterus was definitely able to lay fertilized eggs.

I collected some of the cells and working oss and kept them at home for a long time until they were thrown out, so the final loss of these "instances" occurred, and the mystery of this nest still makes me wonder smile.gif
Hybridization of Vulgarish germanic, with the reluctance to lay uterine "hybrid" cells for ideological reasons (after all, males always go with the karyotype of only the uterus), there is no other idea yet))))))
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16.02.2012 23:55, Vorona

  
And what kind of shrub?

If I'm not mistaken, it looks very much like common heather...

Well, I don't even know what else to assume. It seems that there are no other similar plants in the Crimea...
Although.. Once on another forum, I identified a plant from a well-known area by a verbal description: "like a Christmas tree, only small." confused.gif What I just did not change my mind... wall.gifIt turned out... Bieberstein's bruise.


Just a version... My sister told me that in Eastern Kazakhstan, under the guise of "heather", they sell (for medicinal purposes, of course wall.gif) Cossack juniper eek.gif
Although there is a distant resemblance, of course... ulik, and the bush bloomed, or what?

17.02.2012 1:18, metall-mikki

..Oh, I was on a camping trip in the Crimea in June 2006...we stopped in the vicinity of Alushta at some campsite by the sea...
I, of course, am not an avid seal swimmer, but I went to the sea with my friends)...the approach to the sea was stony - they went into the sea carefully stepping on stones...and here I step to myself, look at the ground and then I see a black "kayak" with a long mustache!...it was an oak sawyere!...I've been looking for that friend for a long time for my collection...and then he's half-dead, all wet...in general, I took him prisoner)...I didn't finish it off - I wanted to bring it home...brag or something...
I put the 5-centimeter captive in a box-I decided to return to the camp to take a picture of the beetle...I remember carrying a heavy old Zenit with me on hikes) ... so it's time for Zenit, so to speak)...the beetle was sluggish,so it calmly posed and did not fly away...I took a couple of pictures and returned the prisoner to the box...
After a couple of days, it was time to set up camp...and so the packing/repacking of backpacks, etc. began...and then I discovered that the cardboard box in which the prisoner was sitting was empty!...as it turned out,moustache came to his senses,realized that he needed to get out of captivity and chewed through the box...out of frustration, I wanted to kick my backpack and swear...and then you could cry)....
When I got home, I developed a film from Zenith...a lot of frames lit up,but one frame,with that tenacious mustache, remained)
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17.02.2012 4:21, Sanangel

None of these comrades were taken. They got away...
Acmaeodera brevipes caught 200 pieces . I promised, but I sowed a jar of them. And now what.. And chalcophorella is generally smart, it flies out of the net faster than it can. Well, at least I took a picture.

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17.02.2012 21:47, lepidopterolog

I thought for a long time and remembered only Colias eogene and Argynnis argyrospilata, I missed both of them in the Pamirs, if I'm not mistaken, in one day even smile.gifthe rest of the entomological past is completely cloudless, everything I saw-caught, species at least exactly smile.gif

19.02.2012 15:38, ulik

Just a version... My sister told me that in Eastern Kazakhstan, under the guise of "heather", they sell (for medicinal purposes, of course wall.gif) Cossack juniper eek.gif
Although there is a distant resemblance, of course... ulik, and the bush bloomed, or what?

"..on a flowering shrub... " that's just the point, we fed on flowers

19.02.2012 15:57, Hierophis

And what difference does it make on which plant this butterfly was sitting, it can also sit on any flower smile.gif

19.02.2012 20:10, okoem

And what difference does it make on which plant this butterfly was sitting, it can also sit on any flower smile.gif

Different butterflies may prefer different plants. I wonder what attracts this species in our conditions.

15.06.2012 20:21, niyaz

Today, walking in the southern suburbs of Kazan, I saw about 15 Apatura ilia sitting on a large dog excrement. And among them sat one Apatura metis, shimmering orange. It was necessary to draw with a net, and I made the wrong decision to cover the top. As a result, this half-breed escaped me in the crowd, only following me with his eyes.
A question for those who know - what are the northernmost finds of Apatura metis in the Volga region and Central Russia?

15.06.2012 20:26, lepidopterolog

Exactly mestizo and not red Elijah? What size was the butterfly?

15.06.2012 20:43, niyaz

Exactly mestizo and not red Elijah? What size was the butterfly?

You can hardly say for sure at 100% now. What's red Elijah like? The butterfly was about the size of an elijah.

15.06.2012 21:02, lepidopterolog

Then just the red shape of elijah, f. clytie - instead of the white pattern, red. The half-breed is small. For Kazan, it is unlikely, the northernmost points in the Saratov region seem.
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26.06.2012 2:28, Сергей71

Hello everyone
On Sunday, shamefully missed, near Istra Square, a large moth, similar in exterior to Geometra papilionaria L, but white. Where G. papilionaria has a light pattern, mine had a dark one. I'm at a loss to guess who it might be, there doesn't seem to be anything similar in size in M. O.

26.06.2012 13:25, Aaata

Hello everyone
On Sunday, shamefully missed, near Istra Square, a large moth, similar in exterior to Geometra papilionaria L, but white. Where G. papilionaria has a light pattern, mine had a dark one. I'm at a loss to guess who it might be, since there doesn't seem to be anything similar in size in M. O.

Not Ourapteryx sambucaria ?

26.06.2012 14:24, Сергей71

I'd recognize Sambucaria by its ponytails. It's too late to guess now)

26.06.2012 14:24, vasiliy-feoktistov

Female Angerona prunaria possibly. If so, then don't get upset smile.gifSuch ?

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 26.06.2012 14: 25

26.06.2012 15:20, Сергей71

By the way, it is similar. Lighter color, no streaks. But with such a polymorphism, as in Angerona prunaria-it can be. I didn't think the females were that big.

26.06.2012 15:29, Aaata

By the way, it is similar. Lighter color, no streaks. But with such a polymorphism, as in Angerona prunaria-it can be. I didn't think the females were that big.

Female prunaria are even larger than papilionaria. Unlike males, they are not so often caught, but the loss is small.

26.06.2012 16:34, Liparus

Maybe you should enter the name of the species and data of the place of capture (habitat) here, so at least there will be some benefit...

14.07.2012 9:22, GlebSinon

There were certainly losses, but none compared with this: we were in Yevpatoria, and found the Crimean ground beetle, (there were quite a few of them, but the people immediately "beat off" the Red Book, and this one was found in a deserted place) was taken by plane, train, (alive, why didn't I kill it) and we arrived home - I open my backpack - it got out of the box and hid in the juniper branches, I, naively believing that it would not get out, tied the bag tighter, drank seagulls, but it is not there, only a hole in the package...

16.07.2012 13:05, feniks

On Saturday I was fishing in the Moscow region. Missed Argynnis paphia-ginandromorph. Classic, clean copy! The main thing was that she was sitting quietly on a flower, and I, the old m-duck, waved the net with all my dope - and there it was empty!!! It's a shame to the point of tears... Tell me, do large forest mother-of-pearl birds live sedately? Should I try going back there?

30.07.2012 12:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

On Saturday I was fishing in the Moscow region. Missed Argynnis paphia-ginandromorph. Classic, clean copy! The main thing was that she was sitting quietly on a flower, and I, the old m-duck, waved the net with all my dope - and there it was empty!!! It's a shame to the point of tears... Tell me, do large forest mother-of-pearl birds live sedately? Should I try going back there?

Fellow sufferers: 22.07.2012 g. he missed the gynandromorph and also Argynnis paphia (one half is gray, and the other is red) weep.gif Therefore, I understand and sympathize.

30.07.2012 16:40, feniks

Fellow sufferers: 22.07.2012 g. he missed the gynandromorph and also Argynnis paphia (one half is gray, and the other is red) weep.gif Therefore, I understand and sympathize.

Still catch))) Still from time to time they meet. Good luck!

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