Vladivostok

As far as I understand from the labels from Vladivostok,Parnassius stubbendorfi flies directly in the city.The placemark indicates Vladivostok.The time of summer can also be assumed from other points(Kurai ridge,Altai) end of May-June.So, I think you will.Ludorfia still has to fly,like.But this is already necessary to know the places.
And best of all, people who live there will say.Seryoga, tell me.

Sad-Gorod and the Botanical Garden-take a look there.

Sad-Gorod and the Botanical Garden-take a look there.

Thank you. They promise no higher than +14 What kind of butterflies are there...

take beetles too

take beetles too

Yeah, they'll just be soaked and frozen

just right

Heavy rain and cold weather today. Tomorrow they promise until +18. There are no butterflies in sight...

mikee
And the weather is normal!

mikee
And the weather is normal!

Your suggestions? I'm still here, leaving only on Thursday. Just got back from the lighthouse on Egersheld: beauty, ocean! Unfortunately, there is no time to catch, I finish my work at 17 in Vladivostok, but then Moscow starts to get tired until late at night :- ) Tomorrow I will send all nafig... I see butterflies only from afar through the window, yesterday some nymphalid, like xantomelas, tried to fly into the hotel, but missed.

And you get on any train and go to the countryside. Get off at Sputnik station and go to the forest. There are few ticks this year. If time is short, take bus No. 31 (at the railway station) and go to the Energotechnikum stop (30-40 minutes) - and go to the forest, cross the hill and go down to Cape Basargina.

Pictured: oyster shell, black sea urchin and Asterina pectinifera star. In the DVSU bookstore you can buy photo atlases of animals of Primorye - there it's all there.

This post was edited by Juglans - 04.06.2008 09: 02

And you get on any train and go to the countryside. Get off at Sputnik station and go to the forest. There are few ticks this year. If time is short, take bus No. 31 (at the railway station) and go to the Energotechnikum stop (30-40 minutes) - and go to the forest, cross the hill and go down to Cape Basargina.

Pictured: oyster shell, black sea urchin and Asterina pectinifera star. In the DVSU bookstore you can buy photo atlases of animals of Primorye - there it's all there.

Thank you, but it's too late. I was released at 16, then bought a ticket home for an hour and a half and returned to the hotel upset... It turned out that it was MUCH cheaper to fly to Vladivostok than to return. I will not mention the price, so as not to shock the people. The airlines are absolutely stunned, but what to do, you need to go home? And on the 6th there are no tickets at all, except for 54,000 rubles
Sputnik is a botanical garden? I wanted to go today, but it's already evening... I had to limit myself to exploring the hill above the hotel on Egersheld. Strong wind from the sea, butterflies only on the leeward side of the hill. And LOTS of people! But, even, I caught something, although there is no net. See fishing reports.
Juglans, why do my colleagues here all agree that these oysters are inedible? They say they only eat scallops. Yesterday I myself saw a couple of Chinese(Korean) women collecting them in baskets. And the sea urchins were also somewhat smooth. I don't understand, but there hasn't been a storm in the last few days, and the whole inner coast of the lighthouse was covered with oysters? And hedgehogs, too. And the outer one (Amur Bay) is surfy, but empty. But there are only a few stars right on the coastal rocks, they are also thrown out or they crawl out by themselves?
I'm afraid to hurt your patriotic feelings, but Vladivostok struck me with the shameless attitude of the administration and the population to the surrounding nature. EVERYTHING is dirty, both in the city (we will write it off to thieves-mayors), and in the vicinity (both near and far). Construction debris on top of the hill! How did they get him there? The seashore is covered with a layer of bottles/bags/pieces of paper... Trees in the city are covered with scraps of plastic bags, as if there is a garbage dump nearby : - (The city dump is right on the shore and constantly burns. The local thermal power plant also floats ash into the ocean... It gets creepy, but nature is the most beautiful and richest! To be honest, the Black Sea coast with its millions of tourists is still cleaner
Again, thank you. Sincerely, Mikhail.

Approximately the same thing in the vicinity of Volgograd Is polluted in places so that you can not find places where there is no broken glass under your feet.. But this is quite the suburbs. I don't know how to get a little further from the city. And it is better to take round-trip tickets at once..

This post was edited by Frantic - 04.06.2008 12: 58

Approximately the same thing in the vicinity of Volgograd Is polluted in places so that you can not find places where there is no broken glass under your feet.. But this is quite the suburbs. I don't know how to get a little further from the city. And it is better to take round-trip tickets at once..

I've been to Volgograd many times, I can compare: Vladivostok is MUCH worse (strictly IMHO). I didn't take the return ticket right away, because the progress of work depended on too many factors and people. Leaving before graduation is like not driving at all.

Damn, then this is a nightmare, of course (about garbage) Very offensive. Although we have garbage near Moscow, too, alas. - What are you flying on - Vladivostok Air?

Damn, then this is a nightmare, of course (about garbage) Very offensive. Although we have garbage near Moscow, too, alas. - What are you flying on - Vladivostok Air?

Well, the outskirts of Moscow and the Moscow region, almost out of competition Here are some more observations and retelling of colleagues:
1. housing prices are approaching Moscow. 3-bedroom slum, however, in the city center, 60 m2=6600000 - the real deal.
2. the streets in the center are filled with cars just like in Moscow. There are traffic jams in the center.
3. the city has nowhere to grow-it is squeezed by the Amur and Ussuri bays. Built-up suburbs and point buildings in the city center. Cottages and townhouses are being built on the outskirts. At the same time, the slopes of the hills are barbarously demolished and polluted. I don't understand the meaning of this.
4. wild herds of right-handed Japanese cars. Different quality, but a lot of good and expensive ones. Meetings with domestic vehicles are rare, either they are remnants of socialism, or cars of state services (traffic police, Emergency Situations Ministry).
5. the port operates exclusively for the import of cars, everything is packed, including multi-storey parking lots. On the wall of one of the many used car sales offices is a spray-painted inscription: "such cars cost$300-400 in Japan."
5. prices in stores do not differ much from those in Moscow. Internet price: 64K - 700 rubles/month, 128K - 1000 rubles. Speed is not guaranteed!

Flying S7-Siberia, there are NO tickets for the rest. At least, that's what the central air ticket offices say. In Moscow, I bought a ticket at a reasonable price on the eve of departure and without any problems at all.

I apologize for the offtopic.

mikee
You wrote almost everything correctly - I'm not offended, because I don't like the city and its wild traffic jams. Price for 1 bedroom apartment (not new!) apartment in the center - 120000 CU. But you can buy a car even for 300 CU (and it will drive!). However, in the suburbs, housing prices are many times cheaper, private houses on the edge are generally a penny. In small towns on the edge of a 1-room apartment can be bought for 3000 CU (it is a 3-hour drive from Vladivostok).

You need to buy a round-trip ticket right away!

Prices in stores as of yesterday (compare with Moscow prices): a loaf of black bread - 22 rubles, 10 eggs-48 rubles, 1 kg of navaga-28 rubles, 1 kg of chickens-130 rubles, 1 kg of potatoes-20-35 kg, a bunch of wild garlic - 10 rubles, 1 kg of New Zealand apples - 80-85 rubles (Chinese-45 rubles). Bus fare - 10 rubles.

Garbage and buildings are a big problem. However, there are still places where it is clean in the suburbs. Rich Mane (this is a ridge with coniferous trees) - quite rich in life. You just happened to be in the wrong places... In September, the Germans came - an hour's drive from the city center and almost got into the taiga. We were VERY satisfied - they said that it is difficult to find such natural places in Europe. I take their word for it.

If you want, I can give you my opinion on why Vladik is so dirty and why there is such an attitude to nature.

PS There are a lot of oysters and hedgehogs in storm surges - this is normal. There was a storm the day before. Our oysters are edible (moreover, they are the same kind that is bred in Europe), but the locals do not eat them. You can't eat anything caught in the suburbs at all - neither oysters nor scallops, especially now, when there are "red tides".

This post was edited by Juglans - 05.06.2008 01: 24

And what are the "red tides"? And why is it so dirty? - it would be interesting to hear about the attitude to nature. Not out of idle interest - this is the trouble of many places, I can't say that in St. Petersburg and in the surrounding area it is total, but sometimes it is very sad and you think: "why the hell did the residents of the surrounding area choose this particular place to bring their garbage here?" A year ago, I drove a car along the route Peter-V. Novgorod-Staraya Russa-Ostashkov-Valdai-Peter. So, a trip for three days, for impressions ...I was struck by the beauty of Lake Seliger...and a giant landfill a hundred meters away, which at that moment, as a sin, someone set on fire.
Today I went to Kolpino, put traps (on c. nitens) - horror, everything is dirty, garbage is dumped just on the side of the road, not everywhere, but one such place was enough to get upset...

"Red tides" are associated with the mass reproduction of microscopic algae. They are a direct consequence of contamination. Since dead algae release toxins, they accumulate shellfish. There are known cases of fatal poisoning.

I will write about dirt later

The year before last, when we went to Andreevka, we spent the night in a hotel on the Second River before the return flight. We took a walk to the mouth of the Second River - a huge pipe poured out a bubbling fetid slush, flowing directly into the ocean, around a herd of gulls, and on the horizon Warships (it was the eve of the Navy Day). A little further away, someone was fishing, someone was confused to swim.
And I also remember in Slavyanka a huge advertising banner along the road "Twisting the mileage of used foreign cars"

This post was edited by Morozzz - 05.06.2008 18: 50

Yes, the Second River is no longer a river. There are no sewage treatment plants in Vladivostok at all...

The reasons for this lie in the fact that the population was formed exclusively at the expense of immigrants and the military, and then - even at the expense of newcomers. Many people in Primorye came for a while-to earn money and leave. But they were delayed. However, the attitude to everything was temporary. My neighbor from Ukraine praises her homeland and scolds Primorye all her life. And there are a lot of such people: they are not interested in either the history of the region or its nature. This applied to both ordinary people and leaders (the last ones who were alive all went to the west). Hence this outrage...

Good afternoon, everyone. I'm back, so the topic can be closed. On the plane, I realized the reason for the lack of tickets-the school holidays and the vacation period had begun. Half of the plane is made up of children, the rest is made up of their parents taking their children to visit their grandparents for the summer. Almost all parents are military men and / or their wives.
Thank you for your tips and explanations!