New Russian Zoological Journals

I don't know about murzilok, but in Altaisk, comrades from the ISE SB RAS are actively published, there are articles from Ukraine and Slovenia. Litvinov, Ravkin, and Barkalov are on the editorial board.
In Amursky in the editorial board of Sinev, Sergeev, Legalov, Ponomarenko.
Both magazines are color-printed, and both have been published for 3 years.
I haven't seen Baikal yet.

I don't know...
It seems to me that the publication of many weak, rarely published (1-2 times a year) regional magazines is a hopeless task. Even their names are the same.
Maybe you need to combine the efforts of all the editorial offices and start making one common magazine, call it, say, the Siberian Zoological Journal, transfer everything online, distribute color PDF files (I've heard complaints about the quality of color printing).Make 6-12 issues or just issues like in Zookeys, Zootaxa or Journal of Natural History (by the way, you can see the table of contents of all issues of this very respectable publication, which has switched to weekly issues since 2005. Here's a great example of the magazine's evolution! )
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title~content=t713192031

This post was edited by Proctos - 25.09.2010 07: 54

The composition of the editorial board does not mean anything - there are enough wedding generals in Zool.zhurnal. But the very fact that the print quality in such journals is better than in Zool. zhurnal is already a very, very instructive example. After all - and this is just a shame-Zool. zhurnal. and the pdf does not send, and it is very difficult for a nonresident author to reach the editorial office. Therefore, the appearance of "local" cozy publications is a natural phenomenon.

Everything is rapidly going online, in 5 years paper scientific publications will become an anachronism. In addition, high-quality paper printing is expensive. Now journals with high impact make a paper version rather for reasons of prestige, (entomological also at the request of the Code).

Barkalov = a quality mark in Syrphidae, A.V. can already be called legendary.

Barkalov = a quality mark in Syrphidae, A.V. can already be called legendary.

I wonder if Barkalov himself is published in magazines where he is a member of the editorial board? There is a funny trap here: a high-level reviewer in a weak journal will not miss a weak article, just a scientific conscience will not allow it, and in a strong journal it will not be taken even more so. It turns out that the presence of big names and high-quality review in such cases only harms.

This post was edited by Proctos - 25.09.2010 08: 54

Barkalov and Negrobov published articles in Barnaul. Of course, having 1 magazine for the whole country is fine, whereas there are 100 of them in Germany and this does not bother anyone. We become people slowly.
Why is it that every city in Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg, Leipzig, and Karlsruhe has its own hesselschafts, jarbuchs, and other businesses, but in a city of 800,000 people we can't have a zoology magazine published?
We need to develop and work very hard. This is understandable.
But in my opinion, it is much more effective for authors to publish in zoological journals that come to London, ZIN, Moscow State University, than to publish in local messengers, which then you will not find anywhere at all.
A small example - for a long time our botanical garden publishes the journal Turchaninovia, which has a citation index higher than the Bot journal, VAK for doctoral dissertations. And we have in Barnaul monogoraphies of RV Kamelin, his wife, and other major St. Petersburg botanists, because this is more effective, according to them, than standing in line for Science for centuries, where they will then publish on newsprint, match their feet, and there will be no PDF...
An example of this is almost 1000 pages long. Embryology of Camelina plants

This post was edited by Yakovlev - 25.09.2010 08: 12

Barkalov = a quality mark in Syrphidae, A.V. can already be called legendary.

I had a bottle of cognac with him the day before yesterday. We discussed his trip to Taimyr, watched photos.

After impact was introduced, publishing hundreds of journals in one country became meaningless. This is all the legacy of the XIX century.

It turns out that the presence of big names and high-quality review in murzilki only harms.

Viktor, the magazine, whatever it is, is also my brainchild. I don't like the word murzilka.
Moreover, it is not murzilka, we have been working for a long time on preparing it for publication, even spending private funds on its publication. The level of academic journals is very high, and it's great that they still keep the mark, although they have not yet learned how to accept articles on electronic media, but this is rather a technical issue.
The Eurasian Entomological Journal has been published for only 10 years, but in terms of printing and design, it is a journal of the highest level for the Russian Federation. Already Vak'ovsky for doctoral students.
And don't you agree that publishing the data of a graduate student or a young scientist in a zoological journal that has a specific mailing list is more effective than publishing it in mass graves ' bulletin?
Russia will grow into Siberia-this is a fact. And not only will but also grows slowly.

After impact was introduced, publishing hundreds of journals in one country became meaningless. This is all the legacy of the XIX century.

Impact is a dynamic thing. I think that those publications that know how to use a computer and generally know about its existence are more likely to get there in the future.
In addition, that it is so right to break spears for the sake of impact or articles in the HAC list. High-end magazines (many) don't have an impact right now, so what... Does EO have an impact?
It doesn't make much difference to me whether I have an impact or not - I do primitive things - faunistics and taxonomy - you can't earn a big impact here if you don't quote yourself. What to do? Lower your hands. I won't get a job as a curator abroad, because I don't want to and I can't.
Yes, you should look at this list and try to publish it, but you don't want to think about it.

This post was edited by Yakovlev - 25.09.2010 08: 34

I found the list after all
http://share.renjian.info/JCR-2009-Impact-Factor.rar

EO is not there, there is a Zoojournal, IF 0.15
There is also no Entomological Review, which is very strange. It is indexed as they write in

Entomological Review is abstracted and/or indexed in:
Academic OneFile, CSA/Proquest, EMBiology, Gale, Google Scholar, IBIDS, INIS Atomindex, OCLC, SCOPUS, Summon by Serial Solutions.

For murzilku I apologize, corrected.

Thanks for understanding.
But the fact that EO without impact, this is how. When I asked, I knew he wasn't there. This means that all our luminaries with no impact or with minimal - are worthless. Our scientists are much lower in impact than Iran, etc. Not because they are fools, but because they do not focus on this scale, which, by the way, is ridiculous. Where is EO? But the Spanish Shilap is there. How does this happen?

I would like to tell you a little bit about the Amur Zoological Journal, as a person who has been published in it 3 times. Its first issue was published in January 2009. And its frequency is very good – 4 issues were published in 2009, 2 in 2010, and 2 more are on the way. That is, there are no failures, which is very good for a beginner magazine. The design of the magazine is decent – a dense color cover, high-quality paper and printing, and in each issue you can print high-quality color tabs (!). Even many VAKOV magazines cannot boast of this (which has already been discussed here).
The Amur Zoological Journal is a peer-reviewed journal-the editorial board and reviewers include the largest domestic (and not only – there is a scientist from Japan) zoologists who are the main experts on their taxonomic groups in the Far East. Moreover, the responsible editor of the journal (head of the Department of Zoology of the Blagoveshchensk Pedagogical University A. N. Streltsov) ACTUALLY gives all the articles to them for review – the bullshit will not be published. The editor – in-chief of the journal is Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences B. A. Voronov. It is possible that in the coming years, AZH may be included in the list of the Higher Attestation Commission.
So the magazine is very promising, anyone who wants to publish articles on the Far East is welcome.

They also forgot about Far Eastern Entomologist – a solid peer-reviewed journal devoted to entomological topics. Published in English. Published by the Entomology Laboratory of the Biology and Soil Institute of the Far Eastern Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Senior Editor – Doctor of Biological Sciences S. Y. Storozhenko. The magazine has already been included in the list of the Higher Attestation Commission of Japan, and we hope that it will also be included in our list. Here is the Far Eastern Entomologist website: http://biosoil.ru/fee/
An undoubted advantage is the speed with which articles are published – it is significantly higher than in other journals. An average of 12 issues are published per year (i.e., once a month).

So, we have such journals dedicated to entomology in the Far East! Not all science is done in western Russia.

The Altai zoojournal was completely sent to the Zoo. Records and will also be referred. some of our articles are also in English.
As one entomologist from Japan told me about St. Petersburg - the Far West of Russia. It just came to mind.

I'm not really sure, but it turns out:
- Our Higher Attestation Commission does not include domestic journals and publications in full or in part(?)from its list. published in foreign languages.
- In turn, foreign indexers refuse to register journals published in a non-Latin alphabet! Here is a quote from SCOPUS ' answer about CMC logs.
Acarina - Accepted for Scopus.
Euroasian Entomological Journal - Currently still being evaluated, outcome will be available within several months.
Invertebrate Zoology - Not accepted for Scopus title evaluation due to references in non-Roman alphabet.
The reason for the epic refusal is also the discrepancy between the actual and stated periodicity of issues, i.e. the creeping of the latest issues for the next year. This is the scourge of KMK magazines.

This post was edited by Proctos - 25.09.2010 17: 27

"Proceedings of ZIN" are included in the list of the Higher Attestation Commission, although we try to ensure that at least half of the publications are in English. As far as I know, the Higher Attestation Commission does not formally make such a requirement.

As for SCOPUS, the unacceptability of publications not in Latin is also not formally indicated anywhere, but ...

Everything is rapidly going online, in 5 years paper scientific publications will become an anachronism. In addition, high-quality paper printing is expensive. Now journals with high impact make a paper version rather for reasons of prestige, (entomological also at the request of the Code).

In 50 years, online magazines will become an anachronism. The entire scientific community will communicate (publish) in the astral plane. Each candidate of science will have to pass a yoga exam... in the astral plane...

Seriously, by definition, a network of more or less large computers (even if gigantic) cannot reliably ensure the safety of scientific documents. And libraries with paper - yes. My opinion...

The security of documents is ensured not by a network of computers, but by reliable and long-lasting media. Even ordinary (non-rewritable) CDs / DVDs provide at least as much security as paper

The security of documents is ensured not by a network of computers, but by reliable and long-lasting media. Even ordinary (non-rewritable) CDs / DVDs provide at least as good security as paper

Let's scratch the paper and CD. And let's see what you can count from and what you can't.

If you scratch the paper properly, you won't be able to read anything from it either. Don't overdo it, dear.

The security of documents is ensured not by a network of computers, but by reliable and long-lasting media. Even ordinary (non-rewritable) CDs / DVDs provide at least as good security as paper

Well, in my opinion, "online" is not "CD / DVD".

A non-rewritable CD / DVD ruined a lot of my documents, which, unfortunately, I did not save on paper.

Scratch the paper should be thoroughly ... pathologically... and the disk can be "accidentally".

This post was edited by Adamov - 25.09.2010 22: 06

Here everything is quite simple - you need to pay a little more attention to what you spend money on, i.e. to the choice of blanks. In my opinion, you have to be a complete idiot not to create backup copies of the published information when publishing an online magazine.

If you scratch the paper properly, you won't be able to read anything from it either. Don't overdo it, dear.

You can also throw paper into the fire. The same effect, by the way, will be with CD. But you should try to scratch the paper so that nothing can be read from it at all. Or even a simple puncture can be enough. Puncture the book sheet and CD. And analyze the result.

CD readers also have another problem: if you only need eyes that will last you a lifetime to read books, then no one can guarantee that in 20 years there will be devices that can read CDs. And I assure you, you will not read anything with your eyes from them.

Well, the third problem of the computer method of storing information is compatibility with software. Write down your information even just with some non-standard program - and already some of your potential readers are eliminated. And who guarantees that the formats in which you write documents will be supported in the future, or the programs with which you read them will be supported by operating systems? Even now, some programs written for Windows XP do not work on Windows 7. Manufacturers are not asleep - the new hardware will soon stop working under XP, Microsoft is very aggressively promoting its products. Similarly, Linux software is developing.

Here everything is quite simple - you need to pay a little more attention to what you spend money on, i.e. to the choice of blanks. In my opinion, you have to be a complete idiot not to create backup copies of the published information when publishing an online magazine.

No matter how high-quality the blanks are, a single wrong move is enough to cause them irreparable harm. And even if you tear the book in half , you can still read it later.

But paper archives can easily rot from mold in some damp basement or even just in the event of a leak in the library roof. SD is somewhat more resistant to changes in humidity. But not only that. Compact storage of information in electronic form negates all problems with a scratched disk. write down 3 SD cards just in case you get scratched - this will still take up less space and cost than storing 150 volumes that fit on 1 SD.

I don't agree. CD is not eternal. Its service life is officially set at 100 years, but there are a lot of reservations about storage conditions. Linnaeus ' books have more than doubled their lifespan, and they continue to be usable.

Compactness is a yes... But I ask you to pay attention to this (I don't want to repeat myself, but...):

CD readers also have another problem: if you only need eyes that will last you a lifetime to read books, then no one can guarantee that in 20 years there will be devices that can read CDs. And I assure you, you will not read anything with your eyes from them.

Well, the third problem of the computer method of storing information is compatibility with software. Write down your information even just with some non-standard program - and already some of your potential readers are eliminated. And who guarantees that the formats in which you write documents will be supported in the future, or the programs with which you read them will be supported by operating systems? Even now, some programs written for Windows XP do not work on Windows 7. Manufacturers are not asleep - the new hardware will soon stop working under XP, Microsoft is very aggressively promoting its products. Similarly, Linux software is developing.

This is not about the security of information, this is a technical problem and it is not for us to solve it. I spoke about the rapid globalization of science, its furious acceleration. Previously, the magazine was published once a quarter, very rarely once a month. Now once a week or even 2 times a day! Zootaxa already publishes 20% of the world's new species descriptions per year! Technically, ONE magazine has replaced hundreds of small and slow ones. The waiting time for the release was reduced to 3 months. Online magazines do not have any problems with color illustrations, they are free and unlimited, and digital photos are the basis of modern taxonomy.

and nothing is eternal at all, is it? Linnaeus ' books were just lucky that they were kept in relatively good conditions. How many more recent archival documents on paper were lost due to unsuitable conditions? and finally, you can usually find old software and restore lost electronic information if you have specialists. But to restore a book that has rotted into the trash with stuck pages will be oh so hard.

This is not about the security of information, this is a technical problem and it is not for us to solve it. I spoke about the rapid globalization of science, its furious acceleration. Previously, the magazine was published once a quarter, very rarely once a month. Now once a week or even 2 times a day! Zootaxa already publishes 20% of the world's new species descriptions per year! Technically, ONE magazine has replaced hundreds of small and slow ones. The waiting time for the release was reduced to 3 months. Online magazines do not have any problems with color illustrations, they are free and unlimited, and digital photos are the basis of modern taxonomy.

There is one caveat. These descriptions, if they are not published on paper , are unsuitable. This is specifically stipulated in the ICZN - publications via the world wide web are not suitable. so you can take what is published online in zootaxa and publish it on paper.

and nothing is eternal at all, is it? Linnaeus ' books were just lucky that they were kept in relatively good conditions. How many more recent archival documents on paper were lost due to unsuitable conditions? and finally, you can usually find old software and restore lost electronic information if you have specialists. But to restore a book that has rotted into the trash with stuck pages will be oh, how difficult.

Good. Let's do this. I will now attach a file here, a text file, by the way, made 15 years ago in a very popular text editor for Unix, but incompatible with Windows. If you can read it for, say, a day and post its contents here , I will admit that you are right. If not, the opposite is true. Good enough? To read this file, you will need just a little: a 1995 Sun Microsistems workstation and the necessary software (including Unix itself).

I'm not going to do anything stupid. I don't have time for this. While I sit at work and spend my official time, I can play with you. Tomorrow is my day off and I'll get on with more pressing matters. Now, if you posted some interesting article in your rare format - it was interesting to me, I would read it, maybe even in a day, although I won't play catch-up.

I'm not going to do anything stupid. I don't have time for this. While I sit at work and spend my official time, I can play with you. Tomorrow is my day off and I'll get on with more pressing matters. Now, if you posted some interesting article in your rare format - it was interesting to me, I would read it, maybe even in a day, although I won't play catch-up.

Gracefully moved away from the crash test of your knowledge in computer science . I give you a standing ovation. But this does not change the essence - it will be very difficult to find such a workstation, and even a working one. And in 10 years - and simply impossible. Electronic components degrade much faster than paper, even if stored in a dry, dark and well-ventilated area.

This post was edited by Dragonsbane - 09/25/2010 22: 48

Good. Let's do this. I will now attach a file here, a text file, by the way, made 15 years ago in a very popular text editor for Unix, but incompatible with Windows. If you can read it for, say, a day and post its contents here , I will admit that you are right. If not, the opposite is true. Good enough? To read this file, you will need just a little: a 1995 Sun Microsistems workstation and the necessary software (including Unix itself).

I agree. Alternatively, you need to quickly read the text on a three-inch floppy disk. This is a sparing option: a little earlier there were "five-inch" and "plates", remember the archives - IOMEGA and other tapes for streamers that died in the bose, Among other things, specially designed for archiving devices.

And with reading the same Latreill, for example, 1811, no problems .

I didn't go anywhere. to spend a day of time on who knows what, to prove something to who knows what, is a big stupidity.

I have a three-inch drive on all my computers, including the one I'm currently writing. a five-inch workman is lying behind the cabinet, just in case. I connected it a couple of times and used it, yes.

Three-inch disk drives are no longer available in almost any modern portable computer. Everyone uses flash drives. What will replace them in 10 years - no one knows. Moreover, the evolution of such devices is very rapid: for some 40 years, information storage devices have jumped from paper (punch card) first to tape, then to a streamer wire, then to magnetic disks, after that-magneto-optics, optics; now-flash drives (information storage is already in microchips). Paper has undergone 5 steps of evolution over 7,000 years (clay tablets-papyrus-parchment-rice paper-cellulose paper).

Forever libraries.
I truly believe in their power. When you find yourself in a library-London, St. Petersburg, Bonn, Berlin-the smell of tomes takes you by surprise. Even the entourage is very very correct.
I love libraries - and I love dummies - they don't even have the same name...