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I confirm it! In the Voronezh Region, the topic of butterflies is not disclosed. We don't have any experts on them either.

Vodyanov, Dubrovsky... In my opinion, they are quite good specialists.

I read the topic and was convinced that entomology is 90% creativity, well, maybe 10% is also from science. A science where you can plan the exact time when a new result will be received... Just like planning a feat after lunch.

I'm sorry, but in what science can I schedule a deadline for receiving new data?

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(Morfey @ 27.01.2012 19:00)
I confirm! In the Voronezh Region, the topic of butterflies is not disclosed. We don't have any experts on them either.

Vodyanov, Dubrovsky... In my opinion, they are quite good specialists.
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About these "specialists" see on this forum "Eversmannia", 2006, issue 5. p. 47-Review of their cadastre. They are crooks, and the most shameful of the most shameful.


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Here is a five-minute "list of pigeons of the Voronezh region".
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And this is an example of how a person who knows butterflies quite well "calculated" what should be there. Unless the alcon is omitted. And to live, work in the region, and mix the thick-headed komu and venatus into one kind, like Vodianov and K - this is something....

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(Morfey @ 27.01.2012 19:00)
I confirm! In the Voronezh Region, the topic of butterflies is not disclosed. We don't have any experts on them either.

Vodyanov, Dubrovsky... In my opinion, they are quite good specialists.
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About these "specialists" see on this forum "Eversmannia", 2006, issue 5. p. 47-Review of their cadastre. They are crooks, and the most shameful of the most shameful.


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Here is a five-minute "list of pigeons of the Voronezh region".
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And this is an example of how a person who knows butterflies quite well "calculated" what should be there. Unless the alcon is omitted. And to live, work in the region, and mix the thick-headed komu and venatus into one kind, like Vodianov and K - this is something....

And this is an example of that...

If it's not a secret, what is the standard citation on the forum do not use? JS doesn't work? It's more convenient to read something...

It should be easier to explain: the purpose of the buttons is indicated on the right, including the quoting function. I didn't notice it at first either...

I'm sorry, but in what science can I schedule a deadline for receiving new data?

Not in any, in my opinion. You probably didn't understand the irony in my phrase

  
And this is an example of how a person who knows butterflies quite well "calculated" what should be there. Unless the alcon is omitted. And to live, work in the region, and mix the thick-headed komu and venatus into one kind, like Vodianov and K-this is something....

Vodianov is a very good expert on butterflies. An encyclopedist, I'd say. A typo has occurred. We need to read the manuscripts more carefully...
And you should not say a priori that someone "calculated" something. This should be investigated. Being guided by speculations and assumptions is the last thing to do.

In general, he is an absent-minded person. But he knows butterflies like no one else. Of course, absent-mindedness is no excuse. But you can not call this person "the most shameful of the most shameful crooks" (see above). The Lord God has only the right to do this. And the investigator.

Well, this is all speculation again: probably... maybe... Let's not create any legends. We must first listen to the author himself. Vodianova Street. And don't call me names behind my back...

Well, this is all speculation again: probably... maybe... Let's not create any legends. We must first listen to the author himself. Vodianova Street. And don't call me names behind my back...

What a sight to look at. The resource is publicly available. Come and read it .

What are your assumptions? there is an author and there is a document. Everything is very clear. And the author is judged by the quality of the document. For me, too, more than once "passed" - nothing, only became better (I hope ^^). It's good for everyone to get healthy criticism. Another thing is if, as Roman Yakovlev once said here - "obscenities". For a mat in my direction, I would tuck my teeth into the esophagus without paying attention to the regalia. We are all human beings, all human beings.

Well, there were worse words than mat (see above). I've known Kostya for a long time. A great specialist. I did the job sloppily. But the dots are not made up. I believe him.

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In general, he is an absent-minded person. But he knows butterflies like no one else. Of course, absent-mindedness is no excuse. But you can not call this person "the most shameful of the most shameful crooks" (see above). The Lord God has only the right to do this. And the investigator.
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Well, if it comes to that-let's remember this "cadastre". Well, how can a specialist who knows butterflies "like no one else" write such a thing??? There is not one "typo" on the page, such blunders there through the line! Let's take it first: in 2005, the "suborders" Macrojugata and Frenata were identified - this is the beginning of the 20th century, at most - Gornostaev, 1960 (but he is not a lepidopterologist, so he wrote in the context of a shortage of literature at the beginning of the "thaw"). Skip the micro...(other types are written 3 times each). Let's look at the diaries. Well, who better than anyone can say that N. comma in the Voronezh region flies in the "V-IX", and O. venatus is not there? Yes, no, but there is O. sylvanus or (taking into account the homonymy) faunus-this is probably what every young naturalist knows? It is the last one that takes off in May. And why is Melitaea diamina "common" there? Yes, just because the author does not know anything about the most banal checker of the forest - steppe-M. britomartis. Or confuse "Nymphalis vau-album" with Polygonia egea? Where does Hipparchia semele come from? - probably from the list of the 19th century. You can continue to talk about the" duplication " of willow volnyanka in different genera, or about the genera of variegated birds and types of leafworms in one combination. Yes, "the best of the best" with any hangover is not something that will not write, but will not even think, even a novice yunnat will check before making a report at school, but only "the most shameful of the most shameful" - exactly could, and not somewhere, but in the official cadastre.

And developing this narrow topic - what are the organizational conclusions from this disgrace followed? Yes, all the same as always-went to the dissertation under the guidance of another "of the best", the kindest professor. Negrobova. There were fewer blunders in the abstract (someone probably corrected it, and it could have been done partially according to my review), but they still remained. For example, the Morse squirrel - well, where does it come from, even in the Usmansky bor-in ECH is a purely taiga species. But most importantly-a link to help Korshunov! Yes, Yu. P. could not miss such nonsense! But he was already dead,and it was convenient to refer to him. What is it but a scam?

A bit of positivity. Three years ago, Volodya (Kazakh) and I went to the Voronezh Region, near the Shipov Forest. We drove into the oak grove itself, drove around the area. What a beauty! And how beautifully deer beetles fly at dusk, hovering at an altitude of 5-8 meters! And how many butterflies and beetles fly into the light at night? Moscow region and did not dream. And what is the good-natured population? I already wrote in the report about that trip, but I'll repeat myself. Evening, we are preparing for the night fishing, a UAZ truck with three sixes on the number pulls up. Come out 4 in overalls, big men 2x2. The car has the inscription "environmental police" or the police, I don't remember now. They come up and ask what we're doing here. We honestly answer, they say we catch butterflies, beetles, this is a screen, insects that have flown into the light sit on it. They tell us that ornithologists visited the same place last week and studied the birds. They gave me their cell phone number and said if you have any problems, please call me. Some positive impressions from the Voronezh region.

sdi, you will still be in our region, be sure to visit the south. In the Petropavlovsk district, near the villages of Bereznyagi and Dedovka, the "Voronezh Sahara" extends. The sandy above-flood terrace stretching from the Don River is a real desert with sand dunes. Our regional phenomenon. Moreover, it is poorly researched in entomofaunistic terms.

This post was edited by Morfey - 29.01.2012 21: 05

For example, the Morse squirrel - well, where does it come from, even in the Usmansky bor-in ECH is a purely taiga species.

I have already written above on the topic of successional changes in the Usmansky Bor. Tullium was caught there, hero, jellyfish, singe... Why wouldn't Morse be? There were times with remnants of taiga fauna. All this is now "gone" to the north. And you don't have to justify yourself to Vodianov when they say: "this can't happen, because this can't happen." It is enough to have a collector's copy. Ask Vodianov. And he won't confuse Synapis with Morse, you can be sure of that.

I have already written above on the topic of successional changes in the Usmansky Bor. Tullium was caught there, hero, jellyfish, singe... Why wouldn't Morse be? There were times with remnants of taiga fauna. All this is now "gone" to the north. And you don't have to justify yourself to Vodianov when they say: "this can't happen, because this can't happen." It is enough to have a collector's copy. Ask Vodianov. And he won't confuse Synapis with Morse, you can be sure of that.

Usually, in such cases, the material is checked in the ZIN and compared with collectible copies. I do not know how it was with butterflies, but Voronezh bedbugs and flies are often compared with the Zinovite collections.

In general, we somehow evaded the topic. I would be interested to know how the situation with parasitic diptera (short - whiskered Brachycera) is in other regions. Which families are well researched and which are poorly researched?

This post was edited by Morfey - 30.01.2012 00: 02

- "The common problem of all regional faunalists is that they chase numbers, dreaming of records. "You give 10 (100-1000) new species for the region per season!"; "We need to find 5 more species and there will be 100!", etc. Often, such a race becomes an end in itself, and the adequacy of the definition of the material goes by the wayside.
I hope that S. Shibaev will give his work on megahilids to a more or less decent magazine, where it can be shown to people who are familiar with e-mails, so that it doesn't turn out like in a CAB." (Maxim Proschalykin, Vladivostok)
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Ugh, you looked like you were looking into the water - you should have chewed everything at once and probably it's time to dot the I's .
Maxim, as if so " myahshe, myahshe - and then people will reach out to you...(remember the satirist) " You answer ...
Well, who told you that we in Penza are CHASING the number of species!?? You, sorry, slightly confused the azimuths and PRIORITIES in regional faunalism. Yes, there are, if I may say so, "faunalists" who, precisely in the pursuit of "science intensity" and "extensive research", are chasing the number of species and the volume of territories "explored", if I may say so, by these "specialists" in 2-3 years. So then there are such reviews of which Lavr cited above. This can be observed quite often at the present time.

Penza ENTOMOLOGISTS Maxim do not pursue the NUMBER of species at all - they study various landscapes of the Penza forest-steppe and insects that LIVE on this territory. Neither I nor Sergey Shibaev have ever been supporters of species fragmentation. Specifically, I believe that many subspecies (and often new "species" of which are now described in many), such as mace-moustaches, at best pull on ecological FORMS.
We ALWAYS adhere to the RULE that WITHOUT CHECKING the material with leading experts in certain groups , we do not publish ANYTHING!!! So Sergey Shibaev is in no hurry to publish hasty conclusions and faunal lists! Only PAINSTAKINGLY working, collecting, defining, checking, etc. (in contrast to the modern "2-3 years and dissertation" - I would say what kind of dissertation/s in REGIONAL faunistics). Having YOUR OWN (!!!) I'm not afraid to say a HUGE factual material Sergey painstakingly studies it-in parallel, such flaws pop up in neighboring certified specialists in this group that it just takes a horror (wake up to laugh (we are sad from such facts!) but one "specialist" after "determining" the bee species collected during the field season, then gave them to classes, to be torn to pieces by students.......) go now and prove that she "DISCOVERED" there and even managed to print extensive literature... In the same, for example, sem. blestyanki (people aged-published in REFEREED thick magazines) often treat subspecies for species - and those found in the same territory... wildness if you think about it is complete!

In general, I believe that it makes no sense to publish the results of faunal studies of insects without studying them in a given territory for 10-12 years (read Chetverikov!) after all, only for this "small circle" it is possible to draw conclusions with a certain degree of truthfulness about the change in the number and distribution of certain species in a CERTAIN territory. This is exactly why I do not publish the results of my research on the Penza region bulavousykh (in the scope of my experience and knowledge of the topic-I think I will not cause doubts in such a respected meeting?), + I like to keep (like a good VINTAGE wine-and not POUR "precocious /" brain-shattering" fizz " understand literally) almost ready-made articles 1-2-3 years old, in order to let's say look at them from the outside/with different eyes. Significant individual zoogeographic messages about the discovery of species of course should not be" so much "pickled, checked with specialists and launch them into "life"... Even recognized specialists sometimes have "blurry" eyes and they admit sometimes the most annoying flaws "who does not work-he is not mistaken", but not the same as "fried specialists"... That's why we communicate here, NOT by TEACHING , but by TEACHING, so to speak, and these are different things...

This post was edited by Penzyak - 30.01.2012 10: 46

2Penzyak

It is strange that you try on all my messages concerning my general impressions. I didn't mean you personally or anyone else from Penza. But if you insist on specifics...
The theme is "Wasps-spangles". 14.01.2011 22: 47
Penzyak:
"Great news-Sergey Shibaeva has finished determining my training camps for the 2010 summer olympics in the Penza region. Our list has been expanded to include two new types:
Chrysura austriaca and Chrysis inaequalis !!!
So we are slowly approaching the cherished goal of 50 species."

And you should not think that if the work lasts 10 years, it is a priori better than what was done in a year. And I'm not going to teach anyone, time will put everything in its place. And I am ready to help people who are engaged in e-mails in everything. So all your claims are far-fetched and have no basis in fact.

Maxim, well, just "balm for the soul" - it's very nice that you read our posts! By the end of the field season, we had "approximately" 49 species of glistening wasps.... Alas, with the translation of modern foreign determinants, two types went into synonyms and two types, it must be admitted, were not defined correctly, what to do these are the realities... There are 46 remaining species... In the Volga region, about 40-45 species are "known", but no one has made revisions (articles) on this territory, alas... And how many" inaccuracies "are obvious from experienced" enlargers "of koi taxa still working on "green" determinants... complete darkness. To work on this group (and on bees in general) Sergey specially went to the oomuseum of Moscow State University and ZIN-photographed and watched SPECIFIC views. Currently, there are almost no specialists in this ARCHIVED (bee) group in Russia...

This post was edited by Penzyak - 31.01.2012 11: 32

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I have already written above on the topic of successional changes in the Usmansky Bor. Tullium was caught there, hero, jellyfish, singe... Why wouldn't Morse be? There were times with remnants of taiga fauna. All this is now "gone" to the north. And you don't have to justify yourself to Vodianov when they say: "this can't happen, because this can't happen." It is enough to have a collector's copy. Ask Vodianov. And he won't confuse Synapis with Morse, you can be sure of that.
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Usually in such cases, the material is checked in the ZIN and compared with collectible copies. I do not know how it was with butterflies, but Voronezh bedbugs and flies are often compared with the Zinovite collections.
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As for Morse code in Usmansky Bor-if the author does not distinguish between some elementary and all more or less complex types, then there can be no faith in him. Come somehow to the same ZIN, I put 2 boxes of morse code there separately (everything was mixed up-he, synapis, amurensis, there's nothing to say about yuvernik). And try to find species by the same differences that are depicted in books like J. Mucha or even by the keys of Lvovsky-Morgun. In many cases, it is impossible to distinguish between female synapsis and Morse code-genitalia work only on males, and then the differences are quite subtle.
And about the second message - you can carry the material not only in the ZIN. Have you tried it? Especially the daytime ones - they're in a sooooo big pen there.

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(Wild Yuri @ 30.01.2012 00:03)
I have already written above on the topic of successional changes in the Usmansky Bor. Tullium was caught there, hero, jellyfish, singe... Why wouldn't Morse be? There were times with remnants of taiga fauna. All this is now "gone" to the north. And you don't have to justify yourself to Vodianov when they say: "this can't happen, because this can't happen." It is enough to have a collector's copy. Ask Vodianov. And he won't confuse Synapis with Morse, you can be sure of that.
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Usually in such cases, the material is checked in the ZIN and compared with collectible copies. I do not know how it was with butterflies, but Voronezh bedbugs and flies are often compared with the Zinovite collections.
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As for Morse code in Usmansky Bor-if the author does not distinguish between some elementary and all more or less complex types, then there can be no faith in him. Come somehow to the same ZIN, I put 2 boxes of morse code there separately (everything was mixed up-he, synapis, amurensis, there's nothing to say about yuvernik). And try to find species by the same differences that are depicted in books like J. Mucha or even by the keys of Lvovsky-Morgun. In many cases, it is impossible to distinguish between female synapsis and Morse code-genitalia work only on males, and then the differences are quite subtle.
And about the second message - you can carry the material not only in the ZIN. Have you tried it? Especially the daytime ones - they're in a sooooo big pen there.

I now bring to the ZIN a number of families of moths (but not gelechiidae and not cephalopods), narrow-winged fireflies, and individual complex moth species. You can carry a dustpan and all the bombicoids there. You can carry other fire engines, but you can view them yourself in the collection. But leafhoppers, fingerflies, mottles-no one defines them there anymore.

Maxim, well, just "balm for the soul" - it's very nice that you read our posts..

I would also like to read your articles with great pleasure. To taste the "vintage" ready even to wait 10-12 years

... we have MUCH less time to wait!
What's all this about the cab?" What exactly is it about? Where can I read it? Do you have reviews of "inaccurate" publications?? In fact, it is known to us as a good and solid magazine, it has become a refereed one...

In general, there is an idea. Yesterday I looked through the descriptions of specially protected areas of my Republic and came to the conclusion that the invertebrate fauna in them is practically not studied. From the variety of butterflies on the territory, at best, the swallowtail or mourner is indicated. There are 154 such territories in the Republic of Tatarstan, including 64 water bodies that can not be considered, because water is not a habitat for butterflies. That leaves 90 protected areas. Given that the field season is 6 months (180 days), you can go around each of them and catch butterflies in them twice a year. For 2 seasons, you can visit each 4 times. As a result, you will be defended in the specialty 25.00.23 Physical Geography and biogeography, soil geography and landscape geochemistry. Specialty area: conservation and wildlife protection, geography of biological diversity.
How do you look at such an idea, feasible or 2 years is not enough and it is necessary to catch 10-12 years?

Young man! First, you need to find a boss who will accept such a topic and knows which dissertation council will skip it . The specialty can probably only be "Ecology" (the science of everything and nothing). To survey at least 90 or 150 protected areas, you need to have your own transport, equipment for night fishing and go continuously back and forth with night fishing, because moths make up a significant majority of the detachment. Some species fly in a year and sometimes less often - it is necessary to examine b.h. objects for at least 2 years. In addition, you don't want to take into account water protected areas for nothing. Caterpillars of several types of fireflies develop in the water. Dozens of species of scoops and other nocturnal owls develop on coastal sedges and reeds. In the swamps (and only on them) live some of the rarest diaries in your area. The main thing is that if you try hard, you will catch more than 1000 species in 3 years (if the protected areas are small and include only unique biogeocenoses) and closer to 1500 (if they are large, national parks and nature reserves, and cover all the biogeographic regions of the republic). And closer to 2000, if you catch so intensively for 5 or more years (if there is not much time, then you will reach the figure of 2000 in half a lifetime). How are you going to determine this? Of course, you can "get" a task from your boss to catch only large "popular" groups. You will be able to process them, write a good work, but its "dissertability" will be doubtful, because there are not so few such works. The main thing is whether you will have accumulated experience and authority among lepidopteologists-otherwise, the "crust" itself in our country (I do not mean the personnel department, namely lepidopterologists) does not matter at all. You can't see any other options for 3 years.

 
How do you look at such an idea, feasible or 2 years is not enough and it is necessary to catch 10-12 years?

In addition to the time to collect the material, take into account the fact that the process of passing the candidate's minimum exams, registration, etc. also takes place within a certain time frame. Add to this the time to identify the material, consult with specialists, work with literature and current systematic position... Two years isn't enough. The minimum age set for graduate students is 3 years. Although there are cases when protection occurs earlier. But this applies to those who made good fees during their student years.

In general, there is an idea. Yesterday I looked through the descriptions of specially protected areas of my Republic and came to the conclusion that the invertebrate fauna in them is practically not studied.

By the way, keep in mind that such hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from the descriptions of protected areas.

And in the end, listen to authoritative opinions - You are told that you can start all this work only after you find a partner. arm. Maybe he will tell you at all: "... I'm not an expert in butterflies, you will be engaged in beetles..." I exaggerate, of course, but do not forget - the last word is for you. the manager.

This post was edited by Morfey - 02.02.2012 13: 14

niyaz, you will only come up with the name for a year

Young man! First, you need to find a boss who will accept such a topic and knows which dissertation council will skip it . The specialty can probably only be "Ecology" (the science of everything and nothing). To survey at least 90 or 150 protected areas, you need to have your own transport, equipment for night fishing and go continuously back and forth with night fishing, because moths make up a significant majority of the detachment. Some species fly in a year and sometimes less often - it is necessary to examine b.h. objects for at least 2 years. In addition, you don't want to take into account water protected areas for nothing. Caterpillars of several types of fireflies develop in the water. Dozens of species of scoops and other nocturnal owls develop on coastal sedges and reeds. In the swamps (and only on them) live some of the rarest diaries in your area. The main thing is that if you try hard, you will catch more than 1000 species in 3 years (if the protected areas are small and include only unique biogeocenoses) and closer to 1500 (if they are large, national parks and nature reserves, and cover all the biogeographic regions of the republic). And closer to 2000, if you catch so intensively for 5 or more years (if there is not much time, then you will reach the figure of 2000 in half a lifetime). How are you going to determine this? Of course, you can "get" a task from your boss to catch only large "popular" groups. You will be able to process them, write a good work, but its "dissertability" will be doubtful, because there are not so few such works. The main thing is whether you will have accumulated experience and authority among lepidopteologists-otherwise, the "crust" itself in our country (I do not mean the personnel department, namely lepidopterologists) does not matter at all. You can't see any other options for 3 years.

As for the chief, that is, I have several people in mind, I will talk to them, discuss them, etc. The specialty may be "ecology", I admit this. Equipment and transport can be obtained. Experience with night fishing equipment is available. You can spend a week or two running them in. Initially, I was going to bet on moth-whiskered butterflies, because mace-whiskered butterflies are quite well studied in the Republic (Shulaev N. V., Petrov N. G.).
The study of water protected areas is fraught with difficulties, as some objects have a length of more than 300 km (rivers). Coastal vegetation is also present in non-aquatic protected areas. I agree that the number of species and specimens will go to thousands, but this is the point of interest that we will have to systematize them all. And in biology, taxonomy is the most attractive area for me.
As for the definition of types, the most difficult ones will have to be taken to the ZIN, in addition, forum participants will also be able to help. In general, I'm going to catch butterflies, study them for the rest of my life, and the "crust" is needed more in order to answer the question of ordinary people "why do you catch them?" the answer was " for scientific purposes!". So as not to look in the eyes of relatives or friends as a person who did not finish his childhood.

Aha, so for self-defense(c) a dissertation is needed So on the contrary, then you need to write a dissertation as long as possible, because these are "scientific goals"- that is, they say, catching butterflies - for a dissertation! After the defense, how to explain - except that already for the doctoral))))

I believe that the candidate's thesis should be defended in youth, as long as there is a desire. In 50-60 years, it is in my opinion nafig not needed. So that in your old age you don't reproach yourself for the fact that you had the opportunity, but you didn't use it. After all, without a piece of paper you are a bug, and life is complex and long, you never know where this paper can be useful. For example, I have been doing sports for myself for 4 years - powerlifting, I meet the CMC standards in training, I am approaching MS. But now I have come to the conclusion that I need to go to competitions and officially register my results. In life, anything can happen and such a "crust" of MS will allow you to get a job as a trainer in a fitness club, and not go there to work as a loader, say.

I believe that the candidate's thesis should be defended in youth, as long as there is a desire. In 50-60 years, it is in my opinion nafig not needed. So that in your old age you don't reproach yourself for the fact that you had the opportunity, but you didn't use it. After all, without a piece of paper you are a bug, and life is complex and long, you never know where this paper can be useful. For example, I have been doing sports for myself for 4 years - powerlifting, I meet the CMC standards in training, I am approaching MS. But now I have come to the conclusion that I need to go to competitions and officially register my results. In life, anything can happen and such a "crust" of MS will allow you to get a job as a trainer in a fitness club, and not go there to work as a loader, say.

a piece of paper for the sake of a piece of paper?
I thought better of you.

In general, there is an idea. Yesterday I looked through the Red Book of Moscow and came to the conclusion that the invertebrate fauna in it is practically not studied...

niyaz

a piece of paper for the sake of a piece of paper?
I thought better of you.

Such is life. I myself am annoyed by all this bureaucracy, but you can't change the system.

  niyaz

They don't make science onslaught. Stay an athlete.

a PhD thesis made in 10-20 years will also not make science. Unless it leaves a small brick in it.