What is the probability of having two genera of the same name in the same order?

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Peter Khramov, 10.10.2015 0:01

Two classifications. Both have similar genera. For the sake of example, let's assume that the author and year of the description are not specified. Question: Is it safe to say that we mean the same gender or not? Or is it still possible that the order is the same, the names of genera are the same, but they themselves are different taxa, and this is not a glitch?
It is especially interesting when they are in different families.
ZY Primarily concerns beetles and diptera, but it is also interesting for others...

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10.10.2015 12:25, Dracus

If two genera with the same name belong to the same order and are mentioned in different sources, does the probability that this is actually the same genus tend to 100%?

If you approach it quite formally (linking only to rank and name, but not to volume), then, I think, now homonyms within units should be quite rare. But, still,

But I need to reduce or not reduce quite a few pairs/triples/fours of births to one before getting full information on the author/year for some of them.

- this is a sure way to make mistakes. Good luck

In this age of the Internet, having a genus name, finding out at least its author and year (and, along the way, synonyms and homonyms) is a matter of a couple of clicks in Google. There are plenty of general and specialized online directories.

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10.10.2015 13:43, Peter Khramov

this is a sure way to make mistakes. Good luck

That's exactly what mistakes need to be minimized in a limited time environment. This is the first sinking, by and large. Then there should be a second one. And the third one wouldn't hurt either:--)

In this age of the Internet, having a genus name, finding out at least its author and year (and, along the way, synonyms and homonyms) is a matter of a couple of clicks in Google. There are plenty of general and specialized online directories.

Not exactly. First of all, a couple of clicks is an exaggeration of simplicity. Secondly, it is with pairs/triplets of births that we are not talking about a pair — if we find one of them, who will be sure that this is it? It is necessary, at least, types of wool for each of them. And there are often few of them, plus they are not the most common ones on the Web. Well, as for online directories, it's a well — known fact that errors in them easily swing from one to another...
In general, when we deal with our own, preferably narrow group and a small number of such pairs, then there are really no problems. And when it's quite the opposite, it's also not so bad to drown yourself with grief, but the question of time begins to be quite relevant.
In any case, thank you for your comments and opinions.