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Dmitriy Pozhogin, 01.03.2011 14:51

People! Let's look at childbirth Protesilaus, Eurytides, Protographium (with Neographium together) and Mimoides. How we make them here ??? Or will integrate all-still Protesilaus, Eurytides, Neographium ???

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01.03.2011 22:44, Peter Khramov

Dmitry, I think that your opinion will be the key here. You yourself are inclined to something, to a simplified taxation Ali uslozhnenke?

01.03.2011 23:23, Dmitriy Pozhogin

I'm curious to hear other opinions! In principle, split into clans clear to me already, but the question remains to Protographium and its subgenus Neographium. It confuses me the most. But the information I have never found

02.03.2011 1:17, Peter Khramov

And Stas what about this thought? Or do not you think?

02.03.2011 10:13, Evgeny Komarov

I too have not dug anything distinct about this, except that who and where are all detailed. In my favorite ground beetles also have a crusher-lovers, especially the French.
Dmitriy! Take their willful decision and will continue to work on it.

02.03.2011 10:15, Evgeny Komarov

Yes, and in the comments to the different types and you can specify that the systematic affiliation may be regarded as, and maybe some sort.

02.03.2011 17:16, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Stas This is not fumbles. I gave him a couple of barons genitals cook. Let him see.
I propose to make the following genera:
Protographium Munroe, 1961 with a view Protographium leosthenes
Protesilaus Swainson, [1832] - the white-tailed
Mimoides Brown, 1991 - Black paridesovidnye
Eurytides Hübner, [1821] with the subgenus Neographium = Eurytides Hübner, [1821] - the classic North American evritidy
I am waiting for reviews

02.03.2011 18:38, Peter Khramov

If you do all this, according to one source - accomplish your goal, with what. Or hodgepodge?

02.03.2011 21:38, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Petr Khramov, 18:38 02.03.2011

If you do all this, according to one source - accomplish your goal, with what. Or hodgepodge?
Again
Protographium, Protesilaus, Mimoides and Eurytides go anywhere as separate genera. The subgenus Neographium include race Protographium.Originally born Protographium include one Australian view Protographium leosthenes !!! Why North Americans are now all piled up in the Australian relatives do not know !!! Nothing about the 'Association yasnyayuschee these things, I could not find (I mean the literature)
In all North American sources
Mexico
http://www.nelsondobbs.com/Mexican_Butterflies.html
http://www.mariposasmexicanas.com/Bfly_Names.htm
Canada
http://www.cbif.gc.ca/spp_pages/butterflies/taxonomy_e.php
United States
http: //www.butterfliesandmoths.org / species_search
Butterflies of America
http://butterfliesofamerica.com/list.htm#PAPILIONIDAE

Nowhere kind Protographium does not appear, moreover, it even search engines like synonyms llja CA butterflies not found. Like this.

02.03.2011 21:43, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Therefore subgenus Neographium I think you need to drive in the race Eurytides

02.03.2011 21:58, Evgeny Komarov

I agree with the interpretation of Dmitry!

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