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There was a Cerambycidae larva, but what happened?

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RippeR, 21.05.2006 21:10

Here is such a strange thing happened-there was a barbel larva, it looks like saperda scalaris, a couple of days ago I looked, and it became a little smaller, the head disappeared, still alive. I looked under a piece of bark - and there was the former head (as if it was molting). In general, all the new obscurantism has become like a fly larva, but in my opinion this is very strange, the flies have already reached the barbels? But what is even more strange is that it does not pupate, just crawls or sits on the spot.. mysticism?!

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21.05.2006 21:59, Bad Den

Send a photo to the studio! smile.gif

21.05.2006 22:47, RippeR

unfortunately, it is not possible frown.gifto have a photo camera only from one friend, but it is very difficult to get it out, it constantly works.. so please try to identify the case by description

22.05.2006 7:41, sealor

Does the larva look anything like the one in the picture?

Pictures:
 the image is no longer on the site: larva1.jpg larva1.jpg — (25.12к) 22.05.2006 — 05.06.2006

23.05.2006 10:37, Dmitry Vlasov

It was devoured by one of the predators. If the larva does not have a head, most likely the predator is a dipteran...

23.05.2006 20:53, RippeR

it looks like this larva, not quite of course, but something like..
Today, a reptile pupated like a fly-soo......gone.
For the first time I meet flies that are already in the larvae of barbels sausage! Yes, and saperds, which are hidden under such a thick and tightly pressed piece of bark.. dreadful.. Aren't such cases really studied?
Not only did these reptiles recently devour my bear caterpillar, a healthy one that was going to pupate, but now they are also on my barbels, dogs mad.gif

24.05.2006 4:02, Dmitrii Musolin

Parasitic insects are astounding and amazing! In any textbook on forest entomology, there is a picture of a female hymenopteran laying eggs through a few-centimeter (up to 10?) layer of bark and WOOD in barbel larvae. Or as an example: again, eardrums that dive under water and lay eggs in the eggs of water striders?! And, as I understand it, they put them on by smell...

Very little of this is really understood or understood... Huge scope for work! smile.gif

This post was edited by Musolin - 05/24/2006 12: 35

24.05.2006 12:28, Helene

Very little of this is really understood or understood... Huge scope for work! smile.gif

All: if someone has a parasite infestation from the larva / pupa-plz, do not throw it away! Bring it to the imago and save it with the owner's skin! Let me know and I'll tell you where to send it.
We succumb to emotions, throw out the "bummer" in the window - and how much valuable information for science is lost.
A specialist in braconids, D. Milko, told me that many quite banal species of parasitic insects have an unknown host.

This post was edited by Helene - 05/24/2006 12: 29

24.05.2006 12:30, Helene

  Parasitic insects are parasitic and amazing!

ZACHOT! lol.gif

24.05.2006 12:39, Dmitrii Musolin

m-yes... it's hard here away from home.... I forgot my native language... frown.gif

24.05.2006 12:44, Dmitrii Musolin

All: if someone has a parasite infestation from the larva / pupa-plz, do not throw it away!
...
A specialist in braconids, D. Milko, told me that many quite banal species of parasitic insects have an unknown host.


and he won't be interested in my friend's post:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=94911 ?

24.05.2006 13:25, Helene

and he won't be interested in my friend's post:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=94911  ?

No, he's on the braconids... And in general, in Bishkek, it is not so easy to send the material to him... frown.gif
I only encourage people to collect parasites in order to send them to large museums like ZINA.

24.05.2006 13:26, Helene

m-yes... it's hard here away from home.... I forgot my native language... frown.gif

Notfrown.gif, but lol.gif umnik.gif
Funny ochepyatka poluchilas. Title for a popular article: "Parasites are parasitic!" smile.gif

24.05.2006 15:49, PVOzerski

I read about the tachina parasitizing the larvae of the larch barbel in Rozhkov's book. So, in principle, nothing surprising. Although it would be interesting to know the method of infection.

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