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Dorcadion, 01.09.2006 13:42

Today on ivan-tea a caterpillar of a black hawk moth near the shore of Lake Baikal. I identified it as Deilephila elpenor, but it is still small 2-3 cm, and about three weeks ago I already pupated such a caterpillar.
What to do with this little caterpillar? because we already have frosts and it is very difficult to get ivan-tea and why is it so small?

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01.09.2006 16:16, PVOzerski

Doesn't she want a bedstrap?"

01.09.2006 16:32, Helene

Today on ivan-tea a caterpillar of a black hawk moth near the shore of Lake Baikal. I identified it as Deilephila elpenor, but it is still small 2-3 cm, and about three weeks ago I already pupated such a caterpillar.
What to do with this little caterpillar? because we already have frosts and it is very difficult to get ivan-tea and why is it so small?

Are you sure this is Deilephila elpenor? Why don't you take a picture?

01.09.2006 17:24, Dorcadion

Doesn't she want a bedstrap?"

To be honest, I don't even know what it looks like because it doesn't occur often.

01.09.2006 17:26, Dorcadion

Are you sure this is Deilephila elpenor? Why don't you take a picture?

You can't take a picture yet, but this is definitely an average wine hawk moth.

01.09.2006 17:31, RippeR

Of the black ones, I recall Hiles Galii.. can she?
on the first photo Galiy, on the second-elpenor.. if it's black, it's definitely not Elpenor..

Pictures:
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picture: InLeSpDeElL0001.jpg

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02.09.2006 8:50, Dorcadion

I have a caterpillar that is on the bottom photo, but instead of brown-black,
I think that this color is due to age. at what stage will it hibernate?

03.09.2006 19:31, RippeR

on the last

one

05.09.2006 0:38, guest: RoM

I have a caterpillar that is on the bottom photo, but instead of brown-black,
I think that this color is due to age. at what stage will it hibernate?

If she is still alive, then give her indoor parthenocissus. Maybe there will be ...

05.09.2006 12:06, Dorcadion

Thank you for the advice, I did not find indoor parthenocissus, but I gave her another very close look and this hour she eats for both cheeks:jump:.I have another question. 2 months ago I caught a caterpillar of Pericallia matronula of the penultimate age, it shed 1 time about a month and a half ago(it ran away and did not eat anything for 4-5 days). And now he just eats and doesn't want to pupate

. What should I do with it?

05.09.2006 13:35, taler

Wait!Must pupate

05.09.2006 13:42, Dorcadion

Maybe you can somehow speed up, contribute to this?

05.09.2006 14:35, Helene

Maybe you can somehow speed up, contribute to this?

I don't see much point - with the bear. They are polyphages, you can feed them with any grass. Matrona is a capricious creature, it is better not to make experiments on her: she eats - so let her eat.
In fact, I've heard (I didn't do it myself) that if you stop feeding a caterpillar of the last age, it will pupate. Type of protective reaction to adverse conditions. But, I repeat, I do not advise you to garden matronula - she may die.

06.09.2006 15:53, Dorcadion

I think I'll feed you for a couple more weeks, and then you can experiment.

13.09.2006 12:10, Dorcadion

Here is my hawk moth caterpillar, BLACK!!!

13.09.2006 15:20, DmitryBurkow

Medium wine type. But I'm afraid it won't pupate... She's sick. parasites, or in the fire climbed. In general, not in order.

13.09.2006 15:40, Dorcadion

Medium wine type. But I'm afraid it won't pupate... She's sick. parasites, or in the fire climbed. In general, not in order.

I think so too, but she is quite cheerful and eats well.

13.09.2006 19:53, Apis

When infected with parasites, you don't know by their appearance until they come out.
There may be a violation of the molting process-although in this case they died in my case.
In general, two caterpillars of this species I pupated at the end of August.

13.09.2006 21:06, Асаф

What do you know about fashion?
And it is necessary to feed it until it stops (there will be more).
By the way, parasites that are more lively in the caterpillar secrete harmon, which prevents the caterpillar from pupating.And the caterpillar eats the grass until the parasites grow.
In this way, a very large specimen grows,but its fate is a foregone conclusion.

This post was edited by Asaf - 13.09.2006 21: 07

13.09.2006 21:32, RippeR

Really black! Immediately there is an opinion that the patient, but it is interesting to see the result, suddenly it is not diseases or parasites that are to blame, but food, moisture, temperature, climate.. you never know what happens in life

Over there, even the leaf turned black where she touched it

- she should be taken to an exorcism session or consecrated before this rabble spreads around the world, kill the jackal child and your sins will be forgiven

13.09.2006 21:37, Асаф

Burn her at the stake!!!!!!!!!The cursed witch.

But remember that the ugly duckling was born.

13.09.2006 22:25, Apis

Gentlemen, the days of the Inquisition are long gone.

yes, and the embrace of this is real, probably.

14.09.2006 14:33, RippeR

That's when everyone will be devoured by the spawn of devilish butterflies-caterpillars of darkness-remember my words

Unfortunately, the days of the Inquisition are over, but it can be revived, although burning is no longer witches, but peasants (not just people of faith, of course, but fanatics and priests. Who doesn't like it - well, I don't care, but I like it)

14.09.2006 14:39, Асаф

Yes, you just brought out and described a new species!
Caterpillars of Darkness (Devil Butterflies)

14.09.2006 16:23, Dorcadion

Okay, fellow entomologists, don't get excited, she died today!!!

And about the Inquisition - it's cool!!!

14.09.2006 17:29, RippeR

I'm sorry about the caterpillar.

I feel sorry for her. Zdohla just like that or the parasites came out?
I will soon have Euphorbia come out of the chrysalis, let's hope that the operation will be successful.
Assaf: these are not the names of butterflies - this is their curse

14.09.2006 20:44, Асаф

Sorry for the caterpillar.....
RippeR:Yes, their curse is heavy.....

17.09.2006 13:56, Dorcadion

I'm sorry about the caterpillar. I feel sorry for her. Zdohla just like that or the parasites came out?
I will soon have Euphorbia come out of the chrysalis, let's hope that the operation will be successful.
Assaf: It's not the names of butterflies - it's their curse

Zdohla just like that!
Here's my matron who doesn't want to pupate!

I have a week left to feed her, then I'll put her on a strict diet!!!

is it worth it or not?

17.09.2006 17:00, RippeR

it is better to pull out her hair one at a time, then say a spell: "when I take off her skin - she will be a pupa", and accordingly snyatt this very skin

17.09.2006 19:29, Pavel Morozov

When infected with parasites, you don't know by their appearance until they come out.
There may be a violation of the molting process-although in this case they died in my case.
In general, two caterpillars of this species I pupated at the end of August.

Why don't you recognize it?

It is necessary to look more closely at the caterpillar, to observe.
If the rider has infected, then a black spot remains on the burr - the place of penetration.. Infected caterpillars (whether riders or tachins) are sluggish and grow poorly.

17.09.2006 21:00, Apis

Infected caterpillars (whether riders or tachins) are sluggish and grow poorly.

Well, I don't agree about the poor appetite - I have a caterpillar of poplar hawk moth ate very much, and even was going to pupate, and the parasites came out only after it died and turned black.
And how can you see the trace from the injection of the ovipositor if the caterpillar is, say, shaggy?