Help me find Vespa vulgaris

Now-unless you happen to come across a wintering female somewhere under the bark of a rotten tree... of course, I'm not very good at homeopathy (in my opinion, this is just one of the "relatively honest ways to take money"), but as far as I know, the venom of other closely related species and genera of wasps (Dolichovespula) is not so good very different from the venom of Vespula vulgaris (to look for this particular species).

I don't think this advice will help you, but suddenly. Look for old wasp nests - you'll probably find a couple of dead ones in one of them.

Muscovites! Don't you have several duplicates of this wasp in your collections? Help homeopathy in a good cause. It will calm the parents and heal the child. Have a good search in your collections.

Muscovites! Don't you have several duplicates of this wasp in your collections? Help homeopathy in a good cause. It will calm the parents and heal the child. Have a good search in your collections.

No, I only have V. crabro

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 09.03.2010 10: 37

First of all, thank you to those who responded! Simply put, I will not argue and prove the effectiveness of homeopathic treatment, for me it is enough that I myself am confident in it.
I ask only can really someone has an extra ordinary wasp (vespa vulgaris) carbo will not work (this is a hornet, as far as I understand), because it's not about the insect venom itself, but in the form as such. I'm ready to buy it at any price. The fact is that I would like to start treatment as soon as possible.
And maybe someone knows where in Moscow you can buy it (after all, they sell insects for collections).
In the summer we will go to the dacha and there I will certainly dig through everything in search. But now I just don't know what tree to look for, in short, this is simply impossible for me.

Yes you're right: this is a hornet-there are no others. I don't do e-mails.

The doctor also added that instead of an ordinary wasp, you can use a rider wasp, it's even better, but I don't think there's any chance to get it. If a simple OS is such a problem....

Yes you're right: this is a hornet-there are no others. I don't do e-mails.

Thank you all the same

Thank you all the same

No, I don't care. I can advise you to go to the dacha and look in your attic for wasp nests.

By writing anyway, I didn't mean that you don't care about my problem)))). Tell me, and where exactly in the attic to look for? In the fall, they flew on our terask, because the door on the terask is always open. But somewhere nearby, I didn't notice their nests (in the trees). And one more question: where do you think you can catch a rider in spring or summer?

Well, look in the attic under the roof itself, on wooden beams (I don't know what kind of attic you have), and riders can be caught on umbrella inflorescences (and in general anywhere).
That's about it:

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generally strange. riders don't have poison like

no, some people do.

because it's not about the insect venom itself, but in the form as such.

The doctor also added that instead of an ordinary wasp, you can use a rider wasp, which is even better

There is no such thing as a "rider wasp". There are many different types of rider wasps. What specific type is meant? In the Crimea, some large ones (possibly Ophion sp) have already met a couple of times.

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Muscovites! Don't you have several duplicates of this wasp in your collections? Help homeopathy in a good cause. It will calm the parents and heal the child. Have a good search in your collections.

My friend John, they are no longer suitable for making homeopathic medicines-proparadichlorobenzene and naphthalene...

The medicine doesn't need poison, it needs the insect itself. I understand that a rider of any kind. Looking something like this.

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The medicine doesn't need poison, it needs the insect itself.

What is the active substance then? Chitin?

... ... ...May I ask what disease is supposed to be treated?

They are funny, these followers of Hahnemann... See the section "Apis" in http://ollo.norna.ru/DIR00/4172.htm

I have caught for some reason rip last year, either Rissa, or talessa. need it? I live in Moscow, come and get it. big.

If you'll excuse me, the difference between a hornet and a common wasp is simply negligible compared to the difference between the rider families. You don't understand this, of course, but the second difference is simply colossal. Paper wasps are just sisters in this situation. And exactly ordinary will do or German too? The one who advised you to do this will be able to distinguish them himself? And the effectiveness of treatment depends on what - on the number of letters in the Latin name or on the substance inherent in this unique species?

I have caught for some reason rip last year, either Rissa, or talessa. need it? I live in Moscow, come and get it. big.

I'm sorry, I think it's obvious to you that I don't understand insects at all, tell me, is it similar to the ones I posted? Or is it just a different kind of rider?
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If you'll excuse me, the difference between a hornet and a common wasp is simply negligible compared to the difference between the rider families. You don't understand this, of course, but the second difference is simply colossal. Paper wasps are just sisters in this situation. And exactly ordinary will do or German too? The one who advised you to do this will be able to distinguish them himself? And the effectiveness of treatment depends on what - on the number of letters in the Latin name or on the substance inherent in this unique species?

This may not be entirely clear, but it is the idea of an insect that is important for medicine. As I understand it ,riders are those who put their larvae in other insects. If I'm not mistaken, this is a common property of riders or an idea. Hornet is definitely not suitable, because it has completely different properties than the common wasp (medicine from the hornet is in almost every homeopath. pharmacy).
The doctor said that since it is almost impossible to find a rider, you should at least find a wasp. Because it also (or rather, the medicine from it) can help my child. I can imagine that everything I've written looks like shamanism at the very least...
This weekend I'll go to the dacha and dig up everything there. Just to find it...

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This post was edited by omar - 10.03.2010 04: 03

This may not be entirely clear, but it is the idea of an insect that is important for medicine. As I understand it ,riders are those who put their larvae in other insects. If I'm not mistaken, this is a common property of riders or an idea. Hornet is definitely not suitable, because it has completely different properties than the common wasp (medicine from the hornet is in almost every homeopath. pharmacy).

The hornet's lifestyle is exactly the same as that of the common wasp, absolutely. And many flies can also parasitize other insects, they will not work?

  
there are many types of paper wasps and they are exactly the same in the opinion of the layman.

And in the opinion of the doctor mentioned here more than once, I am sure, too. Oh, how everything is running... Absurdity squared: a hornet with an ordinary wasp, you see, has a different idea, but the latter has riders (and all of them!!!) "one. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Dear Karenina, listen to the good advice-contact a professional specialist in the field of traditional medicine.

maybe they'll catch her themselves.

Indeed, it is strange that the doctor did not stock up in advance such an ordinary and at the same time so curative insect. And it forces its clients to delve into the subtleties of the definition and biology of hymenoptera.

Volodya, this is such a psychological hook - complicity...
She will run, pat, talk, "dig", solemnly bring-she will already believe in the miraculous power of Hahnemann's balls, her confidence will be transmitted to the child...

Volodya, this is such a psychological hook - complicity...
She will run, pat, talk, "dig", solemnly bring-she will already believe in the miraculous power of Hahnemann's balls, her confidence will be transmitted to her child...

It wouldn't be too late while he was running around, fussing, talking, and digging... So much as a result of "treatment" with different "patches" of the neglected and incurable turns out!

Duc about that and speech...

In any case, thank you dear entomologists for your concern. Conventional medicine recommends chemotherapy, but I would like to avoid it. It is also unusual for me when a doctor sends a patient (who doesn't know anything about insects at all) to look for a particular insect. It's like " Kashcheev's death in an egg, an egg in a duck, a duck in a hare, etc., in short, look for where that casket is hanging...
But I think any of you, if you are a parent, will choose the best, least harmful treatment for your child. If it doesn't work, chemotherapy is the last resort.

It's clear... Hold on! Let your child get out!