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How to keep Polistes dominula-Polistes nimpha in a terrarium?

Community and ForumInsects breedingHow to keep Polistes dominula-Polistes nimpha in a terrarium?

vespa crabro, 30.01.2011 14:52

I have a 40cm terrarium.height 30cm.it is 30cm long.width.

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30.01.2011 15:39, Seneka

Open the street exit

30.01.2011 16:15, vespa crabro

IN THE TERRARIUM!!!!!!!!!

30.01.2011 16:55, Seneka

IN THE TERRARIUM!!!!!!!!!

And why be surprised, everyone keeps Vespa cranbro too. And with this, the exit must be opened to freedom, they will not fly away from the nest anymore.

30.01.2011 17:08, vespa crabro

I'll open it of course,but just tell me what you need to build a nest, what kind of wood, temperature, feeding, etc.

30.01.2011 17:21, Hierophis

vespa crabro wink.gif

http://vespabellicosus2008.narod.ru/home_colony.html
http://www.moscowzoo.ru/docs/C78_Invertebrates2.pdf

To build a nest, you need the most important thing - a female founder who will agree to build it in a terrarium. I myself didn't really believe in keeping vesps and vespulas in a terrarium, even with access to the street, until I saw a nest located in such conditions. Wasps remember that they can't fly out through the glass, and they don't hit it, but fly out through the cracks that are in the terrarium that lead to the street.

This post was edited by Hierophis - 30.01.2011 17: 22
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30.01.2011 17:21, Seneka

I'll open it of course,but just tell me what you need to build a nest, what kind of wood, temperature, feeding, etc.

Ah! So this photo is not in your terrarium? I thought I managed to force build. Then I don't know. It is unlikely that it will start building, rather it will die.

30.01.2011 18:10, vespa crabro

Seneka
Have you ever kept wasps, hornets?

30.01.2011 18:42, Seneka

Yes, but not from scratch. I took hornet nests in late August and September. It was pampering.
The easiest way was at the dacha. At the end of the summer, to get the nest out of the opening in the wall, I dismantled the plywood in the house. There were about 10-15 workers, the rest of the males and pupae in the nest. The hornets didn't sting me, they probably got used to it(I spent the whole summer watching them from almost 15 centimeters at the tap), and when I got to them from inside the house, they didn't understand anything at all. Without putting me to sleep, I blew a little carbon dioxide(it didn't help), covered it with a cloth, cut it off the wall, put it in a cage with glass, fixed it, brought it home, put it in the window.

With smaller wasps, as far as I remember from my mischievous childhood (Dolihovespula silvestris), I did about the same thing, but I did not take them myself, but gave way to a more experienced mentor who did not understand anything about wasps, but in a completely sober state had the determination to help me. It was in July, on an expedition in the foothills of the Altai Mountains, at night. The nest was in a pile of branches, on the bank of the Katun River. Before the operation started, they lit a fire and smoked. While we were cutting the nest out of the pile with the pruning shears, the wasps(there were many of them) bit us wherever they could. Mostly they bit the mentor, because he worked closer to them and directly disturbed their peace, and I held the branches. I also got a little hurt, but I suffered for the idea.

This post was edited by Seneka - 30.01.2011 19: 36
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25.02.2011 17:49, vespa crabro

everything is clear now how to contain Polistes, if anyone does not know how to contain Polistes here:


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=maculi.../88/JpgfFDxxbp0
this person also
contained Vespula makulifrons smile.gif
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25.02.2011 18:40, Hierophis

Oh, my God! And did she build a honeycomb there? I would have died of boredom in such a box in her place, but maybe miracles still happen smile.gifI liked the nest of vespula and bumblebees most of all. What is interesting, there is an observation nest for bumblebees almost one in one as I had, in a box with an open top and covered with a cloth. In general, you need to catch queens, you can look for polistov right in winter, they often winter in old nests, but with German nests it is more difficult, they do not winter in nests, they are under the bark, under stones and in piles of leaves.
The beginning of spring is the perfect time to start looking for bumblebee queens to keep. They write that the sooner you catch the queen, the more likely it is that she will settle a good nest, as it is less infected with nosems, and wintered well.

Last year, I supported Vespula Germanica from June until the end of the season. I also kept it during school hours, but it didn't work out with the founder's uterus, once I found a ready-made nest with the uterus of a German wasp, put it in a box, and attached the nest to the top. I held it like this for a day, then opened the letok at night, in general, I did everything like it was supposed to, but it flew away and did not return smile.gif
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25.02.2011 20:27, vespa crabro

I set up a terrarium just like in the video, even better. smile.gif jump.gif.It's a pity I don't have a camera to click frown.gifon .

25.02.2011 20:38, Hierophis

And if you watch this video, you can clearly see that the honeycomb is not based on cardboard, but glued. That is, he probably brought a ready-made honeycomb with relish, and put it there, incorrect because the first female still refused to build something there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7q6bVTxIWM...yer_profilepage

26.02.2011 13:51, vespa crabro

No, this is a special support for the nest.Then you will believe in this person,here is the link http://www.youtube.com/user/halusky65#p/u/36/UTahZkw94ag yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif
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26.02.2011 14:39, Hierophis

Well, there is no question that Polist himself built the nest smile.gifby the way, not at all where it should be, but on the side. In the steppe, polistas also build nests right on the grasses, cells like bees, and they even collect honey there, but always so that the sun does not shine into the cells, and the rain does not wet them.

I have a terrarium essentially ready for polistov there are 150cmX50X50! Ants already live there, but it remains to populate polistov there) But you need to evict the croakers, otherwise they will eat them!

http://molbiol.ru/forums/uploads/post-7548...21237_thumb.jpg
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26.02.2011 16:30, vespa crabro

You have it beautiful,there will definitely settle polisty smile.gif smile.gif

26.02.2011 16:32, vespa crabro

only ants should be evicted, otherwise they sometimes attack wasps!!!

26.02.2011 16:37, Hierophis

Reaper ants live there in large numbers, they only eat grains. They won't attack, that's for sure. There are also runners, but they also feed only on dead insects. There are still lasiuses, these are yes, but these are not enough yet)

26.02.2011 16:47, vespa crabro

where do you live?"

26.02.2011 18:49, Hierophis

So, in the apartment smile.gifthe Terrarium is still small, and then I would live there too) In general, geographically in Ukraine.
By the way, you can already search for polistov right now, if you know in advance where the nest was last summer, especially if the nest is in a small box or pipe. They usually winter on top, near the stalk itself, and not one but two or three at once. I've already figured out where we can look smile.gif

27.02.2011 20:01, vespa crabro

I will probably contain D. saxonica,it seems to me that it is more interesting to contain D. saxonica.Because there are such cool balls they make!

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

27.02.2011 20:09, vespa crabro

By the way here is proof that this is a support for the nest

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=maculi.../68/x6XO40582PA

27.02.2011 22:03, Hierophis

Well, maybe.
In principle, this is not so important, it is important to make sure that we also succeed smile.gif
Here, by the way, the main thing may be to catch a female who has not yet built a nest.
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28.02.2011 9:52, vespa crabro

Well, yessmile.gif, females are found somewhere in mid-April, on Willow flowers smile.gif

28.02.2011 11:12, vespa crabro

Here are the nests of a Saxon wasp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQC9uZfJx5o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4ViqgdzdQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AO56JVDdzY&feature=related
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28.02.2011 19:06, Hierophis

In mid-April, it may be a little late even for you. It is better to catch at the beginning of April, and we have polistes sometimes appear in the middle of March, but I don't remember when they start building nests.
We don't have a Saxon wasp. I also dreamed of finding such spherical nests for a long time, I especially wanted to find them on a tree branch, as it was written in books, but it turned out that wasps do not settle in open places here. We have German wasps and common wasps, and occasionally there is a forest wasp, as well as an ordinary hornet, but very rarely. There are several types of polysts. German and common wasps live mostly in the ground, and if they build a nest somewhere in the attic, when it is mostly open, then fix it so that you can not remove it - there is no stalk.

28.02.2011 20:05, vespa crabro

Do you live in the city or in the countryside?

28.02.2011 20:42, Hierophis

I live in the country, but in an ordinary panel house. But this does not interfere with the maintenance of the OS, but it is very difficult to keep bees because of the neighbors smile.gif

28.02.2011 20:46, vespa crabro

And I'm in the city, in a 17-storey building, I live on the 5th floor.smile.gif

28.02.2011 21:06, Hierophis

Oh, if there are no glades nearby in the city, then bumblebees will be problematic to keep.. I'm on the 11th floor, and outside the windows almost in all directions-already the village, country fields, steppe, and river. True, we have a "river" here that looks more like the sea, probably 3 kilometers wide, with islands smile.gif

28.02.2011 22:35, vespa crabro

No, there is a forest and small clearings.There were too many bumblebees that year smile.gif

28.02.2011 23:14, Hierophis

Well, then yes, a small clearing is enough for bumblebees, they usually do not fly far in search of nectar and pollen. And the lower the floor, the better for bumblebees, they really do not like to rise in height, some species do not return at all, the moss bumblebee for example, I did not want to live when I still lived on 7, the clearing was right in front of the balcony. Horse, stone, earth, steppe normally lived.

01.03.2011 9:42, vespa crabro

How did you breed them?" confused.gif confused.gif

01.03.2011 22:47, Hierophis

I started bumblebees by moving their nests to the balcony.

02.03.2011 11:06, vespa crabro

Have you ever seen a hornet's nest (open)?

02.03.2011 18:57, Hierophis

Yes, I've seen hornets ' nests, and I've taken them apart.
PS
It seems to me that we can get a warning for personal correspondencesmile.gif, since it is unlikely that someone is interested in the content of the OS at home.

02.03.2011 19:43, vespa crabro

Uh-huh....then 1 week until we do not communicate frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif wall.gif wall.gif wall.gif wall.gif

14.03.2011 0:17, Hierophis

vespa crabro, well, it seems like a week has passed wink.gifI have already bought pollen and honey, spring is already slowly gaining silla, it remains only to make hives, since there are few of them, and catch queen bumblebeessmile.gif

14.03.2011 9:40, vespa crabro

Do they (bumblebees,wasps) fly with you?It's still snowing!"! smile.gif smile.gif

14.03.2011 12:52, Hierophis

I haven't seen it yet, but the polistas are probably already flying. We don't have any snow anymore, but it was still cold at night, and it will still be, so for now-everyone is sleeping smile.gif

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