European part of Russia

Still better than us.

People! I am still "cut down" from the Internet, so I "disappeared". When it is repaired, I will "pop up".

Oh, Dmitry, we were scared, we are looking forward to it, don't be lost.

On May 12, we got out with Elizar to the forest in the vicinity of my city (the one with beaver settlements). The weather is not bad, overcast, but the rain is rare-it only dripped a little and did not bother us at all. The walk was very successful. First, in rotten trunks, stumps and under the bark - nutcrackers: several (at least 4) species of red-winged Ampedus (you need to identify with feeling, with sense, with placement), the most frequent species in this place (under the bark of every fallen pine, aspen, in stumps, etc.)- Ampedus balteatus. The view, in general, is not rare, but here it is directly in the background. Found with Elizarom each and a copy of the rarer in our area Ampedus-A. tristis. Other nutcrackers include Selatosomus impressus, Dolopius marginatus, and Melanotus rufipes. Elizar found in the stump a huge larva of the nutcracker, but not Melanotus; we assume Danosoma (Adelocera in "green"). We took two specimens of Dendrophagus crenatus (naturally, under the bark of fallen pines). In addition, ground beetles Agonum sp., Pterostichus sp. (small), Notiophilus sp., Badister unipustulatus. Elizar found the most interesting staf - Staphylinus fulvipes (this is the one with blue elytra). There are also some Agathidium, Catops sp., Eremotes (Brachytemnus) elephants, Scaphidema metallicum, Mycetophagus sp., Platystomus albinus in the asset, several Aphodius species on the maral dung and some small interesting plates from Aphodiinae. Barbels in larvae and pupae (mostly Rhagium and Xylotrechus). Elizar still hollowed out his favorite bark beetles (on buckthorn, Lymantor coryli). At 16: 40 (we were walking in the morning), I put a happy Elizar on the train, but I couldn't resist and returned to the forest for another hour. Not for nothing: after "scattering" several rotten birch stumps, I collected a bunch of red-winged Ampeduses, 4 specimens (2 males and 2 females) of Carabus granulatus and a male Platycerus caraboides.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 15.05.2007 00: 00

Thank you for the report!
Very interesting, I would like more of them!

Today I met with Elizar during my lunch break. A small plate from 12.05 he identified-Oxyomus silvestris Scop. Now we're racking our brains: what was he doing on maral dung?! Or did the deer "fill him up", and he, poor fellow, got out ?

Now we're racking our brains: what was he doing on maral dung?! Or did the deer "fill him up", and he, poor fellow, got out ?

It's good that elephants don't fly!

As you know, you can make interesting beetles out of dry wood. In the spring, at the dacha, a certain number of dry branches of apple, apricot and cherry trees were collected with signs of settlement in all sorts of different ways. The branches were placed in the aquarium (without water) and the wait came. Yesterday, the aquarium was cleaned up. 4 Leiopus femoratus and 30 Molorchus schmidti were exterminated. I was satisfied.

In the spring, at the dacha, a certain number of dry branches of apple, apricot and cherry trees were collected with signs of settlement in all sorts of different ways.

And for what reasons?

And for what reasons?

holes in the bark and dust with chords on the bark. branches of year 2 were.

Butterflies in the Ryazan region laid eggs on the sprouting kirkazon, as already mentioned on the same forum (third post).

Thank you very much! I read it, but it wasn't postponed, so there is a chance this year, there is...

And yesterday I made a little trip around the neighborhood of work. The decision was quite spontaneous, the reason was the announcement of a mass summer of " Hylecoetus dermestoides on May 15 in Losino-Ostrovsky Park in Moscow."
And since I also have a park or small forest around my work, I decided to go here. In addition, near the river Oka, I wanted to help and drive beetles.
While walking through the park, I caught Glischrochilus sp. I was without a net (and in general without almost everything, only a couple of test tubes), so I caught it with my hands, without much success (I caught 2 copies, 1 and 2 test tubes escaped ). Along the way, he picked at stumps and turned over rocks. Did you pull a couple of Scaphisoma out of the tree stumps ? sp. (in any case, according to the "green" only this genus was obtained), under the stones - Pterostichus aethiops, Platynus longiventris, Stomis pumicatus, "Harpalus" sp.
Unnoticed, I went to the Oka and caught several species (2-3) of Bembidion, small Dyschirius, and Maragarinotus purpurascens. Without an exhausterto collect small and nimble Bembidion-torment, you are afraid to damage it with your fingers, together with the beetle you grasp the whisper of the soil...

It is interesting that in this area (Kasimov district) there are all possible types of Papilionidae in our country. podalirium - rare, but occurs regularly (I only saw it in spring, I didn't catch it);

By the way, about podaliria in the Ryazan region: A couple of years ago, in July, in the vicinity of d. Deulino found 2 caterpillars on the blackthorn and then successfully bred butterflies

And after that, someone will claim that Muscovites are the same as everyone else?
Zhuk, lucky I tried to catch these 2 nights on my mega-device, but for some reason only a few Chironomidae and some moth arrived.
What kind of ground beetle, by the way?

Well, today I went to the resort village "Green City" for some unknown purpose. We decided to stop at the old clearing, where we usually always go. The forest on both sides is pine-small-leaved, sometimes there are firs.



I didn't catch very many, but quite interesting species. Almost immediately, I found a cigar of some pipe-cutter (presumably Byctiscus betulae) on a lime tree, and it was also on it.


Further - more. Mowing on various trees and grasses on the edges , trunk inspections and other things brought the following results: leaf beetles Chrysomela vigintipunctata, flea, similar to Сhalcoides nitidula, some kind of Galerucinae. Of the ground beetles, I wanted to find Dromius, but alas, no matter how much I mowed the trees and did not look at the bark, I did not find any. Instead, the net caught Molorchus sp. (like, minor) And Phytoecia sp. From ground beetles - some kind of Harpalus. In addition, when examining a dry pine tree, I found a very fast beetle about 1 cm long (it is not yet clear from which family, presumably Melandrydae).
That's probably all

Phytoecia sp. which one?

Phytoecia sp. which one?

I didn't want to define unmounted material yet
Common Phytoecia (s.str.) cylindrica L.
And Melandryidae turned out to be Xylita laevigata (Hellenius, 1786)

Butterflies in the Ryazan region laid eggs on the sprouting kirkazon, as already mentioned on the same forum (third post).

Well, here it is - Ryazan polyxena Many thanks to everyone who suggested it. Kirkazon has just come out, butterflies in the mass are just hatching, only one flying specimen was found. In total, about 20 pieces were observed, the flight began only at 12 am, before that none was noticed. 3 specimens were removed from the population, and I couldn't resist taking photos of what the butterflies looked like last year
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Question on the fourth picture: is this a glass case or some kind of membrane?
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On the last photo - a mace-moustached sawfly of the genus Cimbex.

Well, here it is-Ryazan polyxena
Question on the fourth picture: is this a glass case or some kind of membrane?

Oh, well, here on your street KAMAZ grass overturned

And on the fourth - this is some kind of sawmill a la Cimbex, not a glass case.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 05/22/2007 14: 22

Oh, well, here on your street KAMAZ grass overturned

And on the fourth - this is some kind of sawmill a la Cimbex, not a glass case.

Thank you Sorry, I forgot to ask the specialists what are the distinguishing features of males from females in polyxena? And then, since I am almost an amateur, I do not have reliable and professional determinants available. But you can't make up the classifying features yourself based on photos... From last year's catch of P. apollo, I can't figure out if I have a female. In the presence of sphragis, of course, there are no problems, but I catch for myself, of course, the most recent copies.

Thank you Sorry, I forgot to ask the specialists what are the distinguishing features of males from females in polyxena? And then, since I am almost an amateur, I do not have reliable and professional determinants available. But you can't make up the classifying features yourself based on photos... From last year's catch of P. apollo, I can't figure out if I have a female. In the presence of sphragis, of course, there are no problems, but I catch for myself, of course, the most recent copies.

In Apollonians, the degree of hairiness of the abdomen is simpler: the males are completely shaggy.
But I would only look at the end of Polixen's abdomen (the male has wings there), so they seem to look the same.

You can feel their genitals with a pin.
In the male, both by touch and visually, the flaps are clearly distinguishable.

This is already erotic!

In Apollonians, the degree of hairiness of the abdomen is simpler: the males are completely shaggy.
But I would only look at the end of Polixen's abdomen (the male has wings there), so they seem to look the same.

I don't understand, as a tech guy, vague concepts like "less hairy" :-) And about the abdomen, so, first, the butterfly turned out to be unexpectedly (for me) slim, and secondly, by now the material has already been straightened and dried, which makes it difficult to see the ends of the abdomen. Maybe there is some, even a single, distinctive feature such as a white dot on the V. atalanta sling?
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Sungaya Sent today, 16: 47
You can feel their genitals with a pin.
In the male, the flaps are clearly distinguishable both by touch and visually.
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This reminds me vividly of an old joke about how to tell a worm from a worm. You just need to stretch the object between your teeth and, if it gets caught, then it's a worm That I will push apart in the "sash" field, or will I soak the dried material again? Ah, I understand, it is necessary to catch them at the moment of coitus (or whatever it is called in butterflies) Okay, one specimen has a certain cylindrical formation of red-brown color at the end of the abdomen, I suspect that sphragis. Another one has a belly in profile with a drop, or something, at the end... Gentlemen, well, I had no time to look at them, they flew very quickly in the field and rarely landed, because it was 32 gr. heat, and then things allowed only in the dead of night to do straightening, But the ends of the bellies, nevertheless, I will look with magnification...

In males, the abdomen is thinner and slightly differs in thickness throughout. In females, the abdomen is noticeably thicker and fusiform. She's got a potbelly!
This is noticeable even in the field, even at home.
And about feeling for the genitals-I'm serious. Use the tip of a pin to stroke the tip of your belly. In the female, the pin will slide down the abdomen, and in the male, it will get stuck between the "ticks". So you can determine the sex of even small dry butterflies with shriveled bellies.

In P. apollo, as in many Parnassians, the female is darker and more contrasting than the male. In general, they are too variable to tell by habit.

In males, the abdomen is thinner and slightly differs in thickness throughout. In females, the abdomen is noticeably thicker and fusiform. She's got a potbelly!
This is noticeable even in the field, even at home.
And about feeling for the genitals-I'm serious. Use the tip of a pin to stroke the tip of your belly. In the female, the pin will slide down the abdomen, and in the male, it will get stuck between the "ticks". So you can determine the sex of even small dry butterflies with shriveled bellies.

Thanks! Here are 4 photos: the first two are one of the specimens caught on Saturday, but too much strangled and therefore waiting to be straightened in the desiccator (2006 and 2007); the second is a very worn copy (therefore not straightened), brought to me by a friend from near Novocheboksarsk in 2005 (2010 and 2011). I take it both are females?" Right? I judge by the sphragis (if this is it), which is noticeably more pronounced in the second one (by the way, someone asked for a photo of sphragis polyxena here). The photos are too big, otherwise they don't fit. I will deal with the rest after removing it from the straightener. One of them definitely had a thin belly

does Polyxena have a sphragis?
I do not know, I have polyxenes, but they are virgins

does Polyxena have a sphragis?
I do not know, I have polyxenes, but they are virgins

So I ask, is it sphragis?

a person who is engaged in breeding butterflies, including polixenes, says that he has not seen sphragis in polixenes

a person who is engaged in breeding butterflies, including polixenes, says that he has not seen sphragis in polixenes

So I'm not arguing, I'm asking? Maybe I should show these photos to this breeder and ask him?

So I'm not arguing, I'm asking? Maybe I should show these photos to this breeder and ask him?

I showed the photos to the breeder. Here is his response:
In the photo, a male with genitals-valvae and uncus.

Gentlemen, Already the 5th time I go to read the fishing report, and I see a discussion, sorry, p@pisek butterflies. Is it possible to create a separate thread on this topic? I don't think I'm the only one who cares about Polyxena's genitals.

Why not discuss some of the issues that arise along the way? Don't create a separate theme for each such case! In addition, no one turns the topic of fishing into a topic about genitals. The main messages in this topic are just fishing reports. Those who are not interested in messages on related topics may simply not read them.

Both are right, but the discussion of sfragis really has already gone beyond the scope of this topic, so I highlighted it in a separate one. Discussion here.

This weekend I mostly caught the light. On the night from Friday to Saturday with
a split DRL (below is a photo of the Azt unit).
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Flew rather sluggishly, mostly in myriad numbers of midges. Of
the beetles, only a few Cantharis pellucida and the ladybug
Halyzia sedecimguttata arrived. There were also quite
a few strange bedbugs that I hadn't seen before. There were
more butterflies, and I was able to photograph most of them, respectively,
below. If someone can tell me what kind of animals they are, I will be grateful
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On Saturday afternoon I fished a little in the floodplain of the river. Oki near the town
of Gorbatov. I picked up Bembidion and Dyschirius on the shore. I tried
to catch racehorses, but without a net it is almost impossible, nimble beetles
do not let them get close to themselves, you can not grab them with your hand.
By the way, large Bembidions from
the subgenus Bracteon behave similarly, but they still managed to catch
a few pieces.

This post was edited by Bad Den-07.04.2018 17: 56

From Saturday to Sunday night, I caught again, this time using an
unbroken DRL. The day's light is brighter, and more beetles have flown in:
Nicrophorus vespillo, ladybirds Halyzia sedecimguttata and Myrrha
octodecimguttata (and quite a lot of the first ones arrived), softwoods
Cantharis pellucida and C. pulicaria, Orsodacne cerasii (Orsodacnidae),
Luperus sp. (Chrysomelidae) and several water lovers and swimmers.
There were about as many butterflies as there were midges. Again, photos of the butterflies
are below.

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Thus, it is true that the effect of a non-split DRL is subjectively higher than
that of a split DRL, but the fact that the night was
warmer and the summer was more abundant may have played a role.

There were
more butterflies, and I was able to photograph most of them, respectively,
below. If someone can tell me what kind of animals they are, I will be grateful

A cocooned mercury lamp is cool, of course, only a retinal burn can be earned...

Okay, to the catch
The bug is resting (or rather, I'm resting for its part , for butterflies:
1 - Cerura erminea (Notodontidae).
2 - ?Macdunnoughia confusa (Noctuidae). Here I have doubts, because the photo is blurry and you can't see the "gamma".
3 - Notodonta dromedarius (Notodontidae).
4-the same.
5-Agrotis exclamationis (Noctuidae).
6 - Eilema sororcula (Arctiidae). Isn't she really a redhead?
7 - Pterostoma palpina (Notodontidae).

Thus, it is true that the effect of a non-split DRL is subjectively higher than
that of a split DRL, but the fact that the night was
warmer and the summer was more plentiful may have played a role.

This is probably the weather: they fly better to raskokannaya
1 - Pheosia gnoma (Notodontidae).
2 - ?Acronicta rumicis (Noctuidae).
3 - Acronicta rumicis (Noctuidae).
4 - Notodonta ziczac (Notodontidae).
5 - Lacanobia ?contigua (Noctuidae).

bedbug like Dryophilocoris flavoquadrimaculatus (I think it's written like this...)

This post was edited by scarabee - 05/28/2007 02: 49

And yet, in my opinion, the topic "About fishing" develops into the topic " Who is it?". Although I don't care

Yes, there is such a trend. This, of course, can not be avoided, after all, the topics overlap. But I would still ask you to post pictures for the definition in the appropriate topics.