Landscape photos: do we need them?

Surely, that could work out. Also, is it possible to provide with biotopes the photos already uploaded?

If you're talking about photos of biotopes, it's possible for sure. User will be able to cross-connect all his photos, plus to mark photos of the same specimen, e. g.

If it could really be connected, that's worth enabling indeed. It would be also a notable advantage to upload together with caterpillars the photos of their feed plants.

That positively ought to be! Again, analogued to www.plantarium.ru where it's pretty well done. So the idea about feed plants photos is worth doing indeed.

Ugh, would be cool to have at least feed plants descriptions, both for caterpillars and butterflies, since the web lacks such. So I'll be the starter to upload a couple of recent photos of feeding caterpillars.

I can't see any connection between landscapes and where butterflies and moths are or aren't, cause the latter all depend on what plants their larvae feed on.
As for landscape photos, that's definitely outside the website concept, so does it need this addition? Those who are eager to watch landscape pictures may use that very www.plantarium.ru.

Feed plants photos, no, I think it's needless too. Enough to have a list with scientific names (in Latin). One getting interested to know more, common name or any other details, may surf deeply the web, same www.plantarium.ru or alike.

To cons:
1. This addition might be neglected if the technical side is rather complicated to realize on the website, otherwise not.
2. Data about biotopes (landscapes), species habitats, can be very curious as to many Papilionoidea because their statias (habitats) clearly vary in different regions. Interesting to see and compare regions where you can meet such species as the Gorgon Hawkmoth (Sphingonaepiopsis gorgoniades), Hemaris croatica, Saturniidae and so on. Descriptions given to butterflies/moths happen to be not quite precise and, basically, they barely help to know more about the ecology of species. Opposite, it would be great to have pictures of the same species from Moscow region and Far East...
3. Also, there are mostly common names of plants on the website, and, mildly speaking, they're quite far from being correct as well as books from a real life. So this information is important indeed and surely not needless. I can say about my neck of the woods, Volgograd region, here caterpillars of the Small Emperor Moth feed mainly on hypericum-leaved spiraea (Spiraea hypericifolia) while books read about blackthorns. Surely, if it's not a big pain for Petr to do that, this will be very useful for the website. The knowledge about some feed plants not mentioned in special literature is pure information. As for some inaccuracy and errors, well, they take their places as always, everywhere.

For plants again. Ywis, it appears that sometimes they feed on plants not mentioned as basic ones for their feeding. Yet, how many people can surely identify a plant at least to genus?
Wouldn't that be easier to shoot both caterpillars and plants they feed on to show the latter on www.plantarium.ru afterwards? Local folks can identify stuff quite precisely. Also, over there one may read about how to shoot plants properly to have it next identified.
Then to publish it here together with a caterpillar photo noting the plant identified, who identified that, and his/her profession. Only in this case we can seriously talk of getting the food plants list expanded or completed.

Yury! You convinced me :)! Let's use www.plantarium.ru for that.

Pardon me, I know plants better than butterflies (though tropical plants), and now I'm building a butterfly aviary where feed plants are obviously going to be in lots. I've been working up a sweat and, believe me, it can be rather hard to find information about feed plant and final data happen to be quite promiscuous. Same as to find feed plant photos even knowing its name, what's not that easy sometimes, e. g. dogbanes (Apocynaceae) which I unsuccessfully tried to find on www.plantarium.ru, having registered there I found out only that the website gives no info about Cambodia where I live while neighbouring China is not so appealing for me. Well, if I had to upload photos on another website plus to this... Thus, I'm not convinced. I'll try to shoot both caterpillars and feed plants for anyway. If not for local folks, just for myself.

Olya! The properly shot plant doesn't take long time for a pro to identify it. Good for you to know plants quite well. Just want to mention that botanic professionals are specialized (not only botanic ones) in this or that, they deeply study one family what they are really good at. Same as to the expansion info. By the way, some plants are just impossible to identify by photo precisely to species as well as some butterflies/moths and certain mushrooms. So if you're aimed to get it precise, take your time. If you're just curious about grass, shoot it on the grass, that's it.

Having shot a caterpillar on a feed plant. Ok, if the name of a feed plant species is clear, fine, note it and it'll appear in due time on the butterfly/moth description page. When unknown, it's obviously handier to identify it on www.plantarium.ru or websites alike. What's the core of the dispute?)

Feed plants photos are necessary. I reckon, it's without any question. If the thing is in identifying stuff and possible users who might be misinformed with wrongly identified plants, let's delegate the making of a feed plants list to those who are qualified enough.

Butterfly/moth identifying not always an easy go, but somehow we cope with that teamwise.

I still wonder, what those feed plant photos you all everybody's been arguing about? As for illustrating the feed plant section in species descriptions, well, the very section needs some rearranging with proper Latin names instead of those promiscuous we've got now to synchronize it then with www.plantarium.ru so as our local plant names could be linked to appropriate taxa on the partner website, that's what we've already settled with Dmitry ages ago. If the talk is about caterpillar photos on feed plants, so you all are free to upload such providing them, if needed, with plant names to comment a photo.

I can't understand this willing to put here photos of feed plants. Every plant but just a few is a feed one. If one is interested in egg-layings on feed plants, well, it's quite a challenge. What's in uploading feed plants photos? We should know not only the name of the plant, but also its expansion and growing season. If you just own a caterpillar to raise and see what will be the butterfly or moth, there is no need to be aware of plant names. Feed it on what it's been picked up from.

I don't agree with the previous suggestion. It's well-known that the wisest thing is to seek for the very plant what caterpillar feeds on, and then butterfly/moth comes there to lay eggs. Many species are quite specialized by their feed plants. I don't know what's on the west, but in Eastern Siberia that works out. And while unordinary cases may happen though very rarely, biotopes are very definite. I think, ideas about landscape photos and feed plants ones are worth pondering.

Once again: if you have a photo of a caterpillar on a plant, feel free to publish it here right now or whenever. If you think of uploading on the website just a plant photo (with no caterpillar) on what you saw a caterpillar as you suppose it could be possibly a feed plant, please don't. If you're sure of the plant name, just note it uploading your photo, otherwise you may identify the plant species on www.plantarium.ru or websites alike where botanic folks get together, so as they identify it properly and you put the plant name here afterwards. Or we will have to create an individual catalog of plants resulting in its full taxonomy what's actually omg and too much...
Then again, landscape photos rather differ, I wouldn't mash them up with feed plants.

For seeking a feed plant. Yury, if we actually have to? We've got feed plants names that mentioned on the website, so if you don't know some plant, search images of it on the web. I'd recommend www.plantarium.ru since some other websites happen to have such a mess, for instance, they could misname nettles as saltbushes or likewise. So I agree with Petr that there is no need to make it tougher, just a simple plant list is pretty enough.
My advice to others is to shoot native plants and create your own photo albums with species properly identified, not limiting yourself to www.plantarium.ru. Get in touch with your local specialists who are pros on the subject, identify plants and voila, you don't need think anymore of whether you should make pictures of feed plants or not. Knowing plants finally will lead you to butterflies you want to see.

This is a suggestion. You are free to make it real or not. Some people pick up caterpillars to raise, so it would be better to know at what height from the ground the caterpillar was picked up from the plant.
Just an example about Zephyrus caterpillars. Not sure of all the world, but I hear everywhere that their egg-layings and caterpillars are in oak tree's crown, therefore they are rather hard to get. The same info I saw on the web, even an idea to knock them down from the tree. I don't know if it's false or what, but last year I picked up Neozephyrus japonicus caterpillar on an oak tree at 1m height from the ground. Hence it would be good to know the height what caterpillar was shot or picked up at.

Probably, the "Shot/caught place" section should suggest to note the height too as well as the sea level for mountain photos...

Yury, I'm not so inspired with www.plantarium.ru. It has 30 plants or less on Eastern Siberia while there are about 2000. Spots are also not the hottest ones. I do know my plants either where to find butterflies. If you don't want feed plants photos, ok then, let's close the book.