Photo #38186: Papilio rumiko

08.01.2015 11:08, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Papilio cresphontes / Alex Dumchus → Papilio rumiko / Eugene Karolinskiy.

08.01.2015 9:45, Alex Dumchus

Ladies and gentlemen, in my humble opinion, in the course of your discussions, I realized that I am the happy owner of the type described just three weeks ago?If so, then dial the audacity to give the photo caught my sailboat in Mexico, though in a completely killed condition (was crushed in a net and stayed, and these are usually releasing) similar to the above. He was caught in the Riviera Maya (near Cancun, Pts. Away from Veracruz) in November 2013And I will give a picture of the park with Xsaret species of butterflies living there, where he is described as H.cresphontes

08.01.2015 0:58, Eugene Karolinskiy

You understand allusions? Please note: a hint. (c) :)

Kind of nice to add (and what is the "right" structure of childbirth - be left to the curators shmuratorov ...). :)

07.01.2015 23:51, Peter Khramov

That's what the curators and need - to put points on the E within the site (although the view has every right to change over time, but still need some source of final verdict, at least "for now" to these questions).

07.01.2015 23:27, Eugene Karolinskiy

The authors describe the rumiko belong to the "problem of Papilio vs Heraclides " just without excessive fanaticism, specifically by making relevant comments in the article. They write that the for the Neotropics in their opinion it is more convenient to split Papilio , and result in arguments. At the same time many other works are all united in the Papilio .In the end, race, unlike the species - a subjective category (or, I would say be careful, kind of - category is much more subjective than the kind ... :)).

07.01.2015 20:56, Peter Khramov

Overseas will be sought in the framework Insecta.Pro or at least within the new Lepidoptera.Pro, ie a single international portal, where all boundaries between the languages ​​will not be. Including not a single Russian site.

07.01.2015 20:50, Vasiliy Feoktistov

And where else was going to look for? Our foreign friends here all the activity is close to zero (
Pessimism solid, in short ......

07.01.2015 20:26, Peter Khramov

If we rely only on the Russian Federation - it is already the tube. What is really Tama molbiol.

07.01.2015 20:24, Vasiliy Feoktistov

On Molbiole with exotic matter-tube ((

07.01.2015 20:20, Peter Khramov

If Dmitry Pozhogin become curator of the exotic, then sort out. If you will not, boom somebody else to look.

07.01.2015 19:50, Vasiliy Feoktistov

So because I did not do anything with her, Alexander.
Simple and Papilio cresphontes here is in the subgenus Heraclides.
We are waiting for "the sea weather" :)

07.01.2015 19:44, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, all that you brought, that's good, but ...!
The species was described three weeks ago :) Yevgeny which have been described in the genus Heraclides, and should be of great audacity :)) that would immediately transfer to another genus. The authors describe probably stupider than we, since we reject their generic version immediately. :) That's why I wrote the work for the curator.But the butterfly, there are not one photo of this species in Mexico, too. And maybe you're right, you need to create a view in the subgenus, going to deal with his conscience :), but then the authors in brackets as Eugene wrote. but this is not correct :(

07.01.2015 14:39, Vasiliy Feoktistov

P.S. Here on this site Heraclides have subgenus Papilio: http://lepidoptera.ru/taxonomy/32239
There also have to make an appearance.

07.01.2015 14:04, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, here is:
http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/heraclides_rumiko_types1.htm
A source at the moment, the most truthful in my opinion in America :)

07.01.2015 13:55, Alexandr Zhakov

Super, but another kind of catalog no. and perhaps even to his Papilio no one moved in the literature. Quite a difficult question just for the curator. :)

07.01.2015 13:44, Eugene Karolinskiy

This Heraclides rumiko Shiraiwa & Grishin, 2014 (or, if you will, Papilio rumiko (Shiraiwa & Grishin, 2014)). See. ZooKeys 468: 85-135 (2014).