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Updated wishes to upload photos

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Peter Khramov, 18.01.2011 18:52

Ladies and gentlemen who upload photos to the site. I draw your attention to a couple of points:

1. Please ship the photos that do not have the scope and / or signatures. I remind you that the site passed a single standard signatures, so your pictures are not left unprotected.If there are others in the photo captions or frames - I just cut them, but sometimes suffers composition of the picture may be lost or simply fragments of the image of the object, there is no good.I understand that sometimes it is not possible to provide a snapshot of unprinted / frameworks or do not have time, in such cases, just keep in mind the further trimming of me.

Soon the site starts showing pictures of a larger size than it is now.At the same time, many of the pictures before publication have to cut / sprinkle (the reduced size). In this regard, please upload new photos ranging from 1024 on the larger side. Possible. Less - it is also possible.The last true if you do not want to publish the pictures in a large amount, and if you just are not able to send> = 1024.


Again, it does not demand, and wishes for a more comfortable working and the publication of pictures.

Comments

19.01.2011 9:07, Evgeny Komarov

Another wish that, in my opinion, it is necessary to make mandatory for everyone who puts images: it is indicated the location of recording / charges, as usual, for example, in the Plantarium. Website similar and may serve as a model to emulate in many ways.This requirement is not always feasible for the exotic, filmed in the collections, but filmed in Russia should make mandatory. Immediately withdraw many of the problems in determining / clarifying! And the value of the information provided on the site to increase in times!

19.01.2011 9:11, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Keep Eugene at 100%

19.01.2011 13:00, Peter Khramov

For photos, uploaded to the site, two requirements: to match the theme of the resource and to the author of the picture was a user who downloads the picture.Yes, it will be very good if the photo will be set out to answer my wishes, if it is not much like the previously laid out and if it is accompanied by detailed information on the time and location of recording.But I am opposed to making the requirement specification of the data required - for picture without specifying the place and / or time, other things being equal is better than no pictures at all.

A Plantarium - yes, a good site, I agree . Against the background of many other resources such directions and at all posh.

19.01.2011 14:05, Evgeny Komarov

Peter! It's hard to imagine anyone upload photos of butterflies, made by himself and does not know in this case, where it is done! Already before the field a man must have to remember :) Let there be an accurate indication, but the knowledge that the photo is made in Moscow or in the Far East, dramatically simplifies the identification of the species is difficult to be recognized by the photo!Well, in the entomology sverhredky instance even without labels simply do not "is " nothing. I do not see a problem in that it is strongly (eg typed in red font) wishes, which is placed on the page for uploading photos.After all admit that many do not write this information to the photo just by misunderstanding of the importance of this information, although it can fill the field.

19.01.2011 14:43, Peter Khramov

Eugene, further emphasize the importance of the field "place " Indeed, it is possible (without making it mandatory in this case). But I immediately picked up the data - from the last 1,000 photos, only 37 do not have a signature on the spot. Another thing is that many of these early photographs of signatures not, becausethere was no suitable field in the form of either foty loaded at all out of shape (and when the form itself was not). But it is now possible to fix only the second appeal to the authors ...

19.01.2011 22:20, Evgeny Komarov

http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/3193/ - here's an example: a competent and qualified entomologist puts a picture collector's item without georeferencing. Maybe it's been a long time - when a field indicating the location of the shooting / collecting was not.But it should not be !!!
Peter! Point of view "better to have something than nothing " here is not the place! It could play a role in the initial stage, but not now. The resource will be more professional - the greater will be wanting to fill it. Photo after each season fall down here by the hundreds. It's time to tighten the requirements.

20.01.2011 0:16, Peter Khramov

I agree that there will be superfluous once again draw attention to the importance of the field Location shooting at startup. Now I select it and a couple of key fields against other - quite noticeable. Maybe add the appropriate note in the text. Let it be clear that this information is important. But do not miss the photo to places without data on the site - search.It really is better than nothing, and if her strange appearance, and it shall be kept humble yourself in the gallery, and Prof. sections and will not climb. Another example: let's say we have a pretty good one hundred pictures of butterflies, about which we know for certain is that the form they will not be able to determine ever.I believe that if the pictures are decent, they should still be in the gallery, and do not need to remove them.

20.01.2011 0:24, Dmitriy Pozhogin

And what is the meaning of these images, if the view can not be determined, and the time and place of fishing do not know ??? No information shall not be shot. Just a picture

20.01.2011 0:43, Alexandr Zhakov

I agree with Dmitry.

21.01.2011 14:14, Peter Khramov

In general, as found in the comments yesterday, which seems no longer to recover - if the type can not be determined, but foty decent - they can leave, and if they do not determine the form and photos of themselves no - then removal.

21.01.2011 14:45, Dmitriy Pozhogin

If a species can not be determined, no photos, but there is a peg to the place, it is not necessary to remove. The main binding order- the place !!! Any photographer remembers the place, I do not even doubt it. Let not remember the date, but the place (district, region) - 100%. Urban prerequisite.

21.01.2011 15:07, Peter Khramov

Geo-Tagging - another story, how (if) the card will be ready for putting points there is a separate conversation goes on bindings. But, on the other hand, if the form can not be determined - how important the point?

21.01.2011 15:32, Dmitriy Pozhogin

I'm not talking about maps, I'm talking about mandatory fields location shooting / fishing.
If a species can not be determined - can determine gender, we can determine the approximate list of species for a photo. And suddenly this genus and species from this place, not given above ???

21.01.2011 15:48, Evgeny Komarov

Especially because now we can not, and in a month will go "cool " a specialist who knows the fauna of the region (mandatory indication of the place again) and determine. Another thing, if in a picture, for example, one head of unknown moth ... These are the pictures just do not need.

21.01.2011 20:26, Peter Khramov

In summary: Only deleted files without the geography, desperate to identify and thus none with TZ Photo. All other files, view butterfly which is not defined, remain. Field indicating the geography stands on the download page, but is not mandatory.If there are any objections to such an option - I ask to speak.

21.01.2011 21:08, Evgeny Komarov

I accept as a starting point. In the development of the website, I think, in any case we arrive at the optimal solution.Otherwise - no way :) But still, for a field indicating the geography should prescribe something like this: "For species collected / photographed in the former USSR, this information is required (at least Republic / province / region). Photo not accompanied by such information will not be accepted for placement on the site.For photos of exotic species can be accommodated without the collection point / shooting. "The proposed text to be discussed!

21.01.2011 21:37, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Eugene, I fully agree with you!

21.01.2011 21:43, Alexandr Zhakov

Why propose discrimination exotic countries? Even here there were problems with the definition because of ignorance of the country's fishing, island-specific, and others. But it is highly desirable, but it should not be mandatory, and that unfair (I hope there are none), photographers can put anything you like.

21.01.2011 22:20, Evgeny Komarov

Alexander Zhakov, 21-01-2011 21:43
"Why should offer discrimination exotic countries? "
It's not about diskriminatsii.U my collection has a number of exotic species that have been obtained either without labels or with very approximate.Tellingly, this is a purely commercial species supplied to Russia in different ways, but their species, as a rule, is beyond doubt. Subspecies, yes - but this, to be honest, it is not so important for us here and for the site, which pay attention to it does not make sense.There are many serious of foreign sites, specializing in the "zabugornoy " fauna. Embark on a par with them is not possible for objective reasons, and most importantly, it is not necessary. Let there will be butterflies from around the world, but the basis of the site and its goal - our Palaearctic (the maximum), and Russian (at least) of the butterfly.If we can realize at least at a high level, then the site will be live and will enjoy the necessary popular. The main thing - a healthy balance between scientism and accessibility to non-specialists.And you need research interest is the site level professionals and advanced amateurs - not experts, but interested, they will come. But first will determine the fate of the resource.
Here is a long explanation about discrimination tropics)

21.01.2011 23:11, Alexandr Zhakov

I'm sorry, I forgot to put a smiley face. :). Discrimination - this is a joke.
The main thing is the place photo / fishing should be specified as much as possible cases, but you can not do it obligatory. We are with you, Eugene, say the same thing. Our view is the same.

21.01.2011 23:25, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Does it make sense to ask you and ask Facebook poyuzat their photos on the site (mostly exotic) ???

22.01.2011 13:12, Peter Khramov

Dmitry, it may make sense. But from them need infa for their registration on the site as the authors (as in the registration form). Ie they can send it, and it is better - just registered with the site. A foty already can not ship if you mean that you can simply pull off some of the site (with their consent).

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