Important update for all upload photos to the site

He published all the pictures that have been uploaded by the old system. Now just go postmoderatsiya. A few days later a new variant, I think, ustakanilos, respectively, see what comes out of it, it was felt, better / worse.

I received a signal that, they say, after some moderation ph appeared mark "editing site", and the changes are not seen. This can occur when the cache of your browser were old pictures, and he is too lazy to update them. To check - press Ctrl + F5 on the photo page.In this case, refresh the page in full, including a new version of the image.

Peter.Looking at this picture (they have Deilephila elpenor - 36 pieces) and foty next to him, ask yourself - what we (I mean the authors of the photos) are involved in the project?For me, for example, on the first meste- to participate in creating a good directory-determinant butterfly, the second - to pinpoint their collectible vidy- here need help fellow professionals ..., in the third - to give photos of butterflies, those species which are not in the ph site specific differing subspecies, females, aberrations ...Well, I'll lay out his collection of 500-600 species of butterflies + Te. I've caught, but still double-triple copies ... because the majority are on the site, so what's the point ???
Of course, everyone has their own motivation. Maybe I'm too straight talking, but it's time again to enter schitayu- review ph. IMHO.

Peter, may I join the opinion of Alexander Dumchusa. In fact, he announced that I am going to write, but there were some doubts as I'm new here.Unpleasantly surprised that (along with a good photo!) On the project was a lot of low-quality photos, it is not clear what set at the site and are unable to illustrate the characteristics of a species.Production is not enough high-quality photo makes sense only in one case - when on this type of site is no one picture. And current temporarily until a replacement. When it comes to creating high-quality directory, then I think the selection of photos is a must.I have over the years accumulated a huge amount of macro shots, but as you can see, adding only those species which photos on the site is small, or non-existent, or have a picture better than the ones on the site for the species.Be particularly careful, I think, should be treated to a choice of one or two photos that illustrate the specific form. I think in the section "Technical wishes to snapshots" (in the "terms of use and publication of materials on the site Lepidoptera.ru») in addition to the requirements for size, weight, degree of compression is necessary to make certain demands on the quality of downloadable photos.

The previous two comments - Perens from the page pictures # 21325.

Digression: Gentlemen, let's pages ph unsubscribe comments specifically to this particular fotam. If the matter affects the operation of the site in general, I propose to write comments in the relevant subject, or simply create a new one. Yes, forumnye Forums sprogrammil I do not, but the theme is always something new you can open the "community."Now for your question.
I believe that at the moment:
1. Moderation as such need, more can not pour everything.
2. Rights for moderation must be just me, because I can not see even the people who would be adequately combined all the factors in assessing the usefulness foty (see.below), we would have the time / desire to do it and would be responsible for errors and glitches sopustvuyuschie. Now we communicate on this subject with one of the Power juzverej maybe he still join in this activity, but yet. If such people exist - reportedly will be glad to share the load.
3.At screenings photos are taken into account the following factors:
3a. The amount of other kinds of pictures of the same stage of development, subspecies, form etc.
3b. The technical quality of the picture.
3c. The aesthetic quality of the image.
3a. (About) scientific significance: typical / unusual place and other (un) usual.In the future, it will all be synchronized with the interactive map.
3d. Number of other photos and Novichkova author.
3e. Surely there is something that I do not remember right now.
4. were taken from the "garbage" when the site has moderated, ie none Fota did not get into the gallery? It was the following options:
4a.Fota was published as uncertain. Later identified, suffered. Then it was necessary that the author has received the Old photos of the definition, and then I forgot to remove her if she was honest marriage.
4b. When phot was loaded, it was relatively well (bo was little other photons of this type).Then type the number of photons increased, there were more high-quality duplicates, but the old left.
4c. My oversight.
5. How to fix it before? Firstly, when any action with fotoy (e.g., wrapping) in most cases, I looked at the immediately adjacent and, if necessary, something deleted.Second, several times during the existence of the site I was walking across the gallery and weeded all the weeds.
6. What has changed in the transition from pre-moderation to post? What has changed is that the photos are first loaded into the gallery, and then I have them passers-by and weed out superfluous, as well as edit / retouch those that are required.As a result, instead of a couple of days foty hanging and waiting for moderation, they just hang on to the public, including and marriage. But this marriage is removed with equal zeal, just delayed.
Means of this approach:
Marriage for some time is available for viewing at the gallery.Plus, in a situation where the author has uploaded foty, but still affix to them the data in the Personal Area foty without these data can already be seen in the gallery.
Advantages of this approach:
Photographers and other users immediately see the results of your downloads in the gallery.For photographers this is important psychologically for other users - technically (can immediately start to comment, etc.)
Less zavisimot from me or other moderates.
Photographers become more responsible attitude to what to publish and what not.
For beginners it is easier to understand the logic of the site with photos.This global fouls usually does not happen, the photos by removing usually appears not so much (I assure you, much less than was the case pre-moderation), and if there is a new photographer who still do not know all the case, then I am with him always shall communicate and I will explain how to do better in the future, and then daring unwanted pictures.This photographer will be on site and will be able to publish even fewer shots, but better.
Therefore, the global problem of online fotomusora I'm not seeing, and appearing from time to time problems are solved quite easily and should not be callous to you eyes.If you do not agree, and believe that the site is full of examples of frank marriage and unnecessary truck - give links to more examples, not just one load of beginner online.
As usual, it is open to discussion ...
ZYOn the general number of remote photons can be measured by the difference between the number of the last foty (21362) and the number of pictures on the site (15574).

Thank you, Peter, for the detailed answer. Pros and cons are clear. I agree that a lot of pluses.
Links is not ready to give, I think it is the business of the authors - to walk on for a long time photos have been objectively and decide - is it logical to leave the not too quality in the gallery if there is enough quality for a particular species.Either you do the next time, "weeding" to do so. Number of remote photo almost 6 thousand, of course, impressive. I think that in the absence of pre-moderation in your entry (above) "in this regard, the photographs are now a little more responsibility," it is possible to replace the word "little" to say, "much" or "much more"))

Peter! I am honored here viewpoint. Perhaps the same will express.
1. kolichevstvu ph. It seems inappropriate to limit the number of shots of one species from different places. Let it be with each area at each end for example 2-3 illustrate a particular type of artist. Yes, some butterflies, something perhaps be superfluous, but with others.side and it will be clear (you can see. compare). Those images, which will be the benchmark should demonstrate (when it's real) evidence of the species. ....... Peter. Forum all still like to see, unless of course the people do not mind.
2. The quality of the pictures.The picture is even worse, but definable must be defined and this infa should leave the destination and then the file can be deleted, but not ranee.Komu something seems superfluous as possible, but only through an educational program to facilitate the work of moderators

Since comments are deleted if deleted phot, to which they were attached, the answer to the proposal to introduce a pre-moderation on foty in this topic.
I think that introduce moderated early: govnofoty normally removed after a short time after booting, and with their (govnofot) author I have further to communicate, to explain to him the situation.

Peter. What language chat? In Indonesia, which in the course? They're English is not so ... :))

Malay probably :)
Sumatra once again on the Malay spelled Sumatera: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%F3%EC%E0%F2%F0%E0
For example: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/23827

He spoke in English. I do not really, it is not so, and we communicate: -)

Peter! Uploaded today 2 photo Pleurota pyropella. Also there are 2 questions, can they discussed earlier, I do not know.
1. In the comments I wrote "Determination was conducted by photo. Identified Alexander Zhakov." Later, it was not added by me
"05.26.2014 15:04 Alexander Zhakov: Data on the photos changed.
Anatoly Kuzmin → Alexander Zhakov."
It would be more convenient that when uploading the picture was given the opportunity to determine not specify in the comments. Such a possibility is, for example, the site http://www.plantarium.ru
2. On Pleurota pyropella have not had photographs. I'm not clear how and in what time frame will appear and if you see the photo on the description page.

Anatoly, I its definition, put down. On this site you can not put down the definition of the author, who is not registered on the site. if the author is registered, it can put down a moderator.

Alexander, it's all clear, my question is for Peter, it is desirable to more options when uploading the picture ...

Regarding the level of other authors, which is on the site - such a thing, probably, will be based on the section of the collection. As for the types of illustration fotami from the gallery - I do, but not always immediately after the download.