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Mass exodus of cockroaches

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02.01.2011 8:21, косинус

Dear FTOR,!!

About the dormitories of Potoka, VRZ, Sulima, I do not know since I study at a Higher Educational Institution. And here you don't need to drive far from the city center to see a representative of the raven-winged group. It is enough to go to the hostel of AltSTU or AltSU and find out from the living students whether they have cockroaches in their room. And I can tell you with one hundred percent certainty that 30-40% of all students will confirm the presence of cockroaches. I myself observed the presence of these creatures in student dormitories on December 30 last year. When we disassembled the PC to replace the video card and hard drive, we saw two red cockroaches inside the system unit, which instantly disappeared from our eyes, but after they caught my friend's eye for the second time, they were killed in a very terrible death. As a result of the sneaker's rapid contact with the floor(there was a cockroach between the firebox and the floor)

Here are just the arguments against the theory of Electromagnetic fields.
Many times I have seen cases where cockroaches lived in such devices as PCs, radios, clocks and microwave ovens.
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02.01.2011 10:15, Aleksandr Ermakov

Well, about the Ravenclaw squad, you obviously got overreacted ... smile.gif

02.01.2011 11:10, косинус

Oh, I'm sorry.
They were also taken out to a separate detachment, "Cockroach-like" in my opinion.

02.01.2011 17:36, Wild Yuri

A familiar microbiologist said that everything is simple. Cockroaches were killed by baculoviruses (polyhedrosis virus) from Kombat or similar products. Other versions he called "ridiculous" .
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02.01.2011 18:39, FTOR

Doctor if I keep it simple, I'll be just like you and everyone will wipe up on me. I don't need it. Your knowledge of world literature I also do not need to stay with him alone.

02.01.2011 18:52, FTOR

A familiar microbiologist said that everything is simple. Cockroaches were killed by baculoviruses (polyhedrosis virus) from Kombat or similar products. He called other versions "ridiculous".


Very interesting version. You can immediately note its strengths and weaknesses. Strong: Indeed, the reduction in the number of cockroaches in homes has an epidemic accent, this state of affairs speaks in favor of the infectious nature of the reduction in numbers. Weak as I see it lies in the localization of the problem: is it possible that all we are seeing now is the result of exposure to insecticides or cockroach viruses? Some facts do not fit - the departure of cockroaches, according to my data, is also observed in the far North of our country, where the arrival of fashionable foreign funds comes like everything else with a delay. Although the delivery of viral material with other items is not excluded. To test this thesis, a temporary exposure is necessary - it is necessary to wait until a pool of cockroaches that will be insensitive to microbes appears, and the population of these insects will be able to settle again in our apartments.

02.01.2011 18:54, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

A familiar microbiologist said that everything is simple. Cockroaches were killed by baculoviruses (polyhedrosis virus) from Kombat or similar products. He called other versions "ridiculous".


I'm not a microbiologist, but I doubt it very much. Unfortunately, I can't get to the library until 11 and check it out, but insects that have died from polyhedrosis have a very characteristic appearance (do they always?). I have never seen or heard from my colleagues about the death of cockroaches with symptoms similar to polyhedrosis.

You don't confuse anything about "kombat"? As far as I know, the active ingredients are cypermethrines, common insecticides.

02.01.2011 19:00, FTOR

I would like to know how long ago products containing pathogenic viruses for cockroaches appeared on the market in Russia. Found so far only this-firmachi carefully hide everything. But in my opinion it's a mess. We need to dig deeper. If someone has a complete recipe for these products , please share it with us.

Combat SuperBait:
MECHANISM OF ACTION: The substance acts on the cockroach at the cellular level (blocks the reproduction of energy in the body) for 12-24 hours, as a result, it reduces motor activity, does not want to eat or drink, crawls home and dies. Fellow cannibals die in 2-3 days. The bait is active for at least 3 months or until the insects eat all the bait.
CONSUMPTION: A package of 4/6 disks is enough for a room of 10-12 sq. m.

02.01.2011 19:07, vasiliy-feoktistov

This battalion commander is bullshit (doesn't help a damn thing) in 2000 he put it. I don't remember what they smeared me with (some kind of gel, but it really helped). Remember-would.

02.01.2011 19:10, FTOR

Here's another little dig up?
Kombat SuperByte is an effective tool for destroying cockroaches, made using the latest technologies. These traps are among the leading American and Japanese insecticides. The mechanism of action of Kombat SuperByte is based on the "Domino Principle "(chain reaction principle): the cockroach crawls into the trap and eats the bait containing the brand - name insecticide hydramethylnone. Then it returns to the nest and, dying, infects other cockroaches, each of which in turn becomes a source of infection. Thus, the infection of one insect leads to the death of many others.

Who knows about this? Share it.

02.01.2011 19:16, FTOR

Hurray!!! jump.gif I found a Wikipedia article on our topic with a bunch of useful links!!!

See Depopulation of cockroaches in the CIS countries.

02.01.2011 19:39, Wild Yuri

This battalion commander is bullshit (doesn't help a damn thing) in 2000 he put it. I don't remember what they smeared me with (some kind of gel, but it really helped). Remember-would.

70% of " Kombat "is a fake or a product of poor quality.
I have stated above the opinion of the professor of microbiology. Maybe I should argue, but I'm not competent. And I'm leaving the subject.
Let the relevant experts argue.
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02.01.2011 19:40, Yakovlev

They just don't want to join United Russia
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02.01.2011 19:45, FTOR

Wild Yuri!!! In any case, do not go anywhere!!! Your knowledge will definitely be in demand in the future. We put questions for discussion the solution of which depends on you:

1) What should we expect after the majority of cockroaches disappear from our apartments? What environmental changes can occur in this regard?
2) What experiments can confirm or refute our hypotheses of cockroach extinction?

02.01.2011 20:09, Hierophis

Wow! More and more interesting. Here I found a whole dissertation on this topic:
http://alevur.com/fly/
About polyhedrosis there is but not much and does not apply to cockroaches at all. Here you need a good knowledge of the specificity of this virus, whether there is a virus at all for this group and specifically for these species.
But there is a very large section about cockroaches, with the biology of not only banal prusak but also several others, including my favorite naufeta cinerea smile.gif
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02.01.2011 21:00, Guest

Yes, more and more monstrous.

When I got here, I had the illusion of having a serious discussion. I'm sorry, I got the wrong address.

02.01.2011 21:07, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Yes, more and more monstrous.

When I got here, I had the illusion of having a serious discussion. I'm sorry, I got the wrong address.


It was me.
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02.01.2011 21:14, FTOR

[quote=Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg,02.01.2011 22:07]

02.01.2011 22:53, Hierophis

FTOR, because you just don't want to notice them, they are in message # 22.

02.01.2011 23:46, Wild Yuri

Wild Yuri!!! In any case, do not go anywhere!!! Your knowledge will definitely be in demand in the future. We put questions for discussion the solution of which depends on you:

1) What should we expect after the majority of cockroaches disappear from our apartments? What environmental changes can occur in this regard?
2) What experiments can confirm or refute our hypotheses of cockroach extinction?

I repeat, there is no knowledge of the topic. So, there were assumptions... And there is no time to study. There is a little "post***xia", so I will answer your questions.
1). People will sleep better. Life expectancy will increase.
2). Sprite (see above), polyhedrosis virus (see the section "Microbiology"), hadron collider ( ... ) and so on.
Cockroaches are, of course, a topic. Let's discuss how to properly prepare pizza from them. I recently saw a story on TV... Entomophagy is in fashion!

02.01.2011 23:50, Wild Yuri

Oddly, the auto-editor truncated the word "post-e-ba-t". This is not a mat! confused.gif

03.01.2011 0:20, Hierophis

Hmm, and I can cook something, my cockroaches are fat, and they don't drink sprite - they only eat porridge and water smile.gif

03.01.2011 1:12, Wild Yuri

It is in the microwave? smile.gif
Not to be distracted from the topic of discussion, decided to open a separate in entomophagy. Cm. in the section. Now - just right there! umnik.gif

03.01.2011 1:35, rhopalocera.com

the fuss lit.... fuck the theatre. thesis... has uzusaliu smile.gif

shvanvich to help you:

cockroaches on top of the cuticle lipid layer. it protects from drying out. if you deprive a cockroach that layer even partially will die from dehydration. Pav now everywhere - in the trash including about flushing water is silent finally. next to continue, or yourself?

in those places where it has not yet reached civilization, cockroaches thrive wink.gif
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03.01.2011 2:03, Hierophis

That is, if I wash the marble man in powder, then he will not live?

03.01.2011 8:35, rhopalocera.com

you don't even need to wash it. just a drop of water with powder on the skin is enough. but only one condition must be fulfilled: the powder must contain surfactants that actively destroy (namely destroy) lipids. cockroaches do not live without water-watering is usually in the apartments of nm kitchen in the sink-fairy-shmeiri water is practically not washed off - that's the whole chain.
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03.01.2011 14:43, Hierophis

Why doesn't the steppe viper eat cockroaches? He eats everything-grasshoppers, locusts, crickets, praying mantises, and beetles, but he doesn't eat cockroaches? Cockroaches are poisonous, right?

03.01.2011 15:39, Alexandr Rusinov

Why steppe Viper doesn't eat cockroaches? Eats everything - grasshoppers, and sharanevych, and crickets, and Bogomolova, and geschichtlich, and roaches are not eating? Cockroaches poisonous, is it?

Her religion does not allow cockroaches have lol.gif
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03.01.2011 16:31, FTOR

FTOR, because you just don't want to notice them, they are in message # 22.


Let me explain. The person I was talking to clearly didn't bother to explain why he thought we were all being frivolous. I have always conducted and continue to conduct a dialogue so that an inexperienced naturalist can understand what is being said. This is a different matter - it is not a question of the form of presentation, but of the nature of the issues raised, and this is not a form of snobbery. Frankly speaking, for the second day now, I have been observing how this topic, which we absolutely need to understand, is gradually turning into a pile of feces due to the fault of some. This is hindered by cheap show-offs and an empty fee of some of the forum members. Well, it's not interesting to you - why then climb with a pig's snout in kalashny row, leave people alone and let them talk about what interests them. The saddest part of all this is the fact of non-resistance. Everyone is ready to accept that some couple of people are being leaked here under the pretext of their inviolable opinion, to which they have a right. Dear members of the discussion, the scientific issues that we raise and try to discuss are not just the chatter of two grandmothers on a bench, this is what makes us entomologists, this is what distinguishes us from the collectors of chitinous integuments. Take care of the topic of discussion.

03.01.2011 16:34, FTOR

Her religion doesn't allow her to eat cockroaches lol.gif


Here's an example. What is the useful semantic load of this utterance? What should I learn from it?

03.01.2011 16:43, rhopalocera.com

Let me explain. The person I was talking to clearly didn't bother to explain why he thought we were all being frivolous. I have always conducted and continue to conduct a dialogue so that an inexperienced naturalist can understand what is being said. This is a different matter - it is not a question of the form of presentation, but of the nature of the issues raised, and this is not a form of snobbery. Frankly speaking, for the second day now, I have been observing how this topic, which we absolutely need to understand, is gradually turning into a pile of feces due to the fault of some. This is hindered by cheap show-offs and an empty fee of some of the forum members. Well, it's not interesting to you - why then climb with a pig's snout in kalashny row, leave people alone and let them talk about what interests them. The saddest part of all this is the fact of non-resistance. Everyone is ready to accept that some couple of people are being leaked here under the pretext of their inviolable opinion, to which they have a right. Dear members of the discussion, the scientific issues that we raise and try to discuss are not just the chatter of two grandmothers on a bench, this is what makes us entomologists, this is what distinguishes us from the collectors of chitinous integuments. Take care of the topic of discussion.



dear topikstarter, science ends where the numbers disappear. please share with us statistics, bare numbers - where and how the number, population density, and names of insects have changed, and it doesn't hurt to give them names (cockroaches, hmm, more than one species, even synanthropic ones).

in Nizhny Novgorod, everything is fine with cockroaches, both of our synanthropic species regularly come to me from neighbors.

03.01.2011 16:43, Ант.141

osnyavnyaya razdel dyamasnyh talyakanov - klyasivy kot) p

03.01.2011 16:53, FTOR

Dear one of the topicenders. what you said is beautiful and correct, but essentially a mockery. the main thing is that you understand that the figures and facts that some uncle just has to provide you with appear in the process of cooperation and dialogue - which is impossible to establish here. I acknowledge this and renounce the topic.

03.01.2011 17:07, Alexandr Rusinov

Let me explain. The person I was talking to clearly didn't bother to explain why he thought we were all being frivolous. I have always conducted and continue to conduct a dialogue so that an inexperienced naturalist can understand what is being said. This is a different matter - it is not a question of the form of presentation, but of the nature of the issues raised, and this is not a form of snobbery. Frankly speaking, for the second day now, I have been observing how this topic, which we absolutely need to understand, is gradually turning into a pile of feces due to the fault of some. This is hindered by cheap show-offs and an empty fee of some of the forum members. Well, it's not interesting to you - why then climb with a pig's snout in kalashny row, leave people alone and let them talk about what interests them. The saddest part of all this is the fact of non-resistance. Everyone is ready to accept that some couple of people are being leaked here under the pretext of their inviolable opinion, to which they have a right. Dear members of the discussion, the scientific issues that we raise and try to discuss are not just the chatter of two grandmothers on a bench, this is what makes us entomologists, this is what distinguishes us from the collectors of chitinous integuments. Take care of the topic of discussion.

It didn't smell like science to begin with. If you want to understand this topic, study the literature and go to the laboratory to experiment. Otherwise, this topic will remain a pile of feces (I note that I did not say this). Well, at the expense of cheap show-offs and unnecessary fees, it is difficult to surpass topikaster in this. Well, a statement about a pig's snout is difficult to perceive otherwise than as an insult.
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03.01.2011 18:43, FTOR

It didn't smell like science to begin with. If you want to understand this topic, study the literature and go to the laboratory to experiment. Otherwise, this topic will remain a pile of feces (I note that I did not say this). Well, at the expense of cheap show-offs and unnecessary fees, it is difficult to surpass topikaster in this. Well, a statement about a pig's snout is difficult to perceive otherwise than as an insult.


Respected. It's hard to say what science smells like, but you probably know better. I didn't have a task to call what I'm typing here a "great thing", just identify the PROBLEM (read more carefully next time) and attract interesting people to the discussion. The experiment - which was discussed above until recently, it was planned to discuss details and possible models - but apparently not fate, the public failed. As for the pig's snout - somehow you were quickly offended by the stable idiomatic expression of the literary Russian language. It seems that you don't look like a muslin girl or a student who faints from fright. Let's be clear: here you left your opinion here - did you somehow develop the topic or diversify it, fill up the general discussion tank with new facts? No!!! Only show-offs. Well, what then to be offended. But I understand you, you're just a product of your own era, just like me. The main thing is to tell you that you are a cool guy, and the rest of us are rotten. Okay, I'm telling you, you're a great guy. Leave this category alone because we don't need more from you.

03.01.2011 18:49, Hierophis

"Here's an example. What is the useful semantic load of this utterance? What should I learn from it?"

Haha, at least the steppe viper and the swift lizard have different beliefs.

Here we look - the viper eats different insects, but not cockroaches. The nimble lizard eats various insects, and cockroaches too. The steppe viper occasionally eats a nimble lizard.
Conclusion: there is a deep religious conflict between vipers and lizards!

PS
has already prepared everything for the experiment with detergents, but it turns out that they are not used in our household! There's no gala or fae. And the sprite did not buy, oh, it's a shame )))
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03.01.2011 18:50, Alexandr Rusinov

I'll leave your category, I'll leave it. You can continue to enjoy your own importance, while being afraid that someone will wipe themselves on you. Further, I do not participate in this verbiage.

This post was edited by Anthrenus - 03.01.2011 18: 50

03.01.2011 19:01, FTOR

I'll leave your category, I'll leave it. You can continue to enjoy your own importance, while being afraid that someone will wipe themselves on you. Further, I do not participate in this verbiage.


Yeah. Another creature embittered by life.

"The twentieth century. The haze is even more homeless,
Even more terrible than life

,and the Shadow of Lucifer's Wing is even blacker and larger."

A. Block

03.01.2011 19:10, rhopalocera.com

Yeah. Another creature embittered by life.

"The twentieth century. The haze is even more homeless,
Even more terrible than life

,and the Shadow of Lucifer's Wing is even blacker and larger."

A. Block



don't you take a lot on yourself with such statements?

03.01.2011 19:12, FTOR

don't you take a lot on yourself with such statements?


No. Not much. What confused you?

This post was edited by FTOR-03.01.2011 19: 15

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