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Lepidoptera and UV range

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rdl, 08.10.2008 1:09

good afternoon,
I immediately apologize for the number of inaccuracies that may be in this question, since I am a person far from entomology.

if I understand correctly, in butterflies, the part of the spectrum in which they see is shifted relative to ours towards the UV range, (as in birds (?)). and there are patterns in the UV range that butterflies see on top of each other (for example, determining gender), but we do not with our own eye.

have you ever seen works on this topic,
preferably in Russian or English,
or studied something similar yourself?

google gives me only brief essays, and a search on this forum did not give anything at all.

sorry again if the question is inaccurate or incorrect.

thanks

This post was edited by rdl-08.10.2008 01: 10

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08.10.2008 4:25, Dmitrii Musolin

I'm not sure about the pattern or the floor. they have a very sensitive sense of smell for this.

There should be tons of work about the spectrum and vision... Googling according to Lepidoptera vision spectrum yielded 29,100....

08.10.2008 15:56, Vorona

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I've heard the same thing about hawthorns - it seems that for us males and females are indistinguishable, but in UV they have a different pattern. But even if I'm not lying, I could only read it (or hear it) in some strong (scientific)way- popular

08.10.2008 16:33, Bad Den

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I've heard the same thing about hawthorns - it seems that for us males and females are indistinguishable, but in UV they have a different pattern.

Quite distinguishable smile.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den - 10/08/2008 16: 34

08.10.2008 17:07, Vorona

So, either I remember something wrong, or a "source" of the appropriate quality.

08.10.2008 17:11, svm2

The wing pattern in UV light was used as a systematic feature of Nekrutenko for the genus Gonepteryx
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09.10.2008 23:43, guest: Cosmos

I'll just add to the topic: out of 16 species of South American bees of one genus, one species was found to have UV coloration, while others did not. This is also observed in a single genus of parrots (either it was about fluorescence, or it's the same thing...) .

09.10.2008 23:45, guest: cosmos

yes, there is also IR vision. Correct me if something is wrong - the golden beetle of pozharishch has formed corresponding receptors on the abdomen - this is apomorphy!!!.

28.01.2010 2:03, Фиалка трехцветная

Butterflies have diverse vision, and many have color vision (in the visible part of the spectrum). Features of vision may differ not only in different species, but even (in some) within the same species (! sexual dimorphism in color vision). Vision in the UV range is characteristic of very many species of butterflies and plays a role in 1. distinguishing individuals of the opposite sex, 2. distinguishing specific patterns on flowers and nectar signs, 3. individuals of their own species from others by a specific wing pattern, which is distinguishable not only in the visible part of the spectrum, but also (details that are not visible to our eye) in UV. In vain many doubted here, this information is written in many SCIENTIFIC articles.
There are a lot of works, a lot of them are publicly available on the Internet, you just need to search well. But with rare exceptions, there are works in English and German. In Russian, too, there are, but in the public domain they are posted on the Internet a little.

This post was edited by Violet Tricolor - 28.01.2010 03: 05

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