Crimea - Polygonia egea, Limenitis reducta

I didn't understand, is this a report or something?))

During my stay in Crimea in 2009. I caught female Polygonia egea and Limenitis reducta (Morskoe village) and Limenitis reducta (male) in a canyon near Chufut-Kale (Bakchysarai), I will write more about their photos (+ pictures).

Both butterflies are legends for the Crimea and Ukraine as a whole. Not that I know of. , like the fat man of the steppe. Preferably a photo and disclosure of ingognito.

excuse me guys, my Russian is bad, these are pictures
of Robert Rosa-Poland

Pictures:

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here are the legends..

Yeah!! Tuzov, it turns out, was right!
Something is happening to the Crimea, 9 types of diurnal over the past few years. Brute force.

Interesting coincidence - # 206 and #207. By chance, No. 208 didn't fly by...
(So, thinking out loud)

Was it an individual stay for dispar, or as part of an expedition
of some sort? And how many days?

ranche I did not write about it, I thought that these types of *normal * ltut in the Crimea. Today I took them off the *board and once again looked in the book * Denny's brooms of Ukraine*, and then there was a surprise. After 3 weeks, we were in 3 people in the Crimea (for butterflies of course ; -), met Okoema and* stuff * collected.

For dispar, did you show these copies of okoyom-y while you were in Crimea?

  
Something is happening to the Crimea, 9 types of diurnal over the past few years. Enumeration.

Did someone check Chiginitra in 2009? Did you find confirmation of the "sensations"? One of my entomologist friends went there and didn't meet any of the "Chiginitrinsky sensations"... Okoyom also seemed to be there, by the way... Let's see what he writes... Really-it turns out too much... Although-what the hell is not joking... In the Crimea, a maximum of five people are constantly actively catching butterflies, and they will not cover all the places, of course. The rest go either for something specific, or for a short period of time. So-time will tell. Red-dot dipper was caught in the Crimea in 1939, and then only in 2007 (2 copies). Leptotes pirithous and Lampides boeticus were indicated for Koreiz by Chetverikov even before the Great Patriotic War, and since then they have not been marked by anyone until 2007... Nymphalis xantomelas is also a mystery. Three meetings are known (if I'm not mistaken). After all, the Crimea is still badly trampled... By the way, can Polygonia egea and Limenitis reducta migrate?

This post was edited by palvasru4ko - 24.01.2010 18: 25

For dispar, did you show these copies of okoyom-y while you were in Crimea?

P. I caught egea during our mountain excursion. I didn't have enough strength, and Okoyom went on with my friend, and at the same time I was being helped by egea. On the second day Vova left. And like I said, I thought they were just ordinary species.

It remains only to find Kirinia roxelana, and Nabokov will be temporarily rehabilitated!

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Pictures:

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Czufut_Kale.jpg — (347.38к)

It remains only to find Kirinia roxelana, and Nabokov will be temporarily rehabilitated!

I spent almost a whole month ironing Aya in 2001, but I didn't catch it. True, I caught it in August. and as it turned out, Kirinia roxelana flies in June.

Hello, Robert! Glad to see you and thank you for the information!

After 3 weeks, we were in 3 people in the Crimea (for butterflies of course ; -), met Okoema and* stuff * collected.

I want to clarify a little, and the word "through" gives the phrase a somewhat incomprehensible meaning. You should read "Within 3 weeks..."

I caught P. egea during our mountain excursion. I didn't have enough strength, and Okoyom went on with my friend, and at the same time I was being helped by egea. On the second day Vova left.

If so, then the label isn't quite right. The label says "30.05.2009", and our tour was 03.06.2009. In addition, the village is not called Morskoe, but Veseloe.

As for the" trampling of the Crimea", I will not speak for others, but I personally have not yet examined all its districts sufficiently. In particular, I almost did not collect on the South Coast and even less in the Chufut-Kale area (in the broad sense, i.e. in the Bakhchisarai district).

So, what is the village in the picture?

Indeed, it doesn't look like the Sea.

sposiba Vova, I once again looked at the metadata (?!) of my photos, you're right! 03.06.2009 but he also described all my etiquettes ... Sea , of course Fun!!! Thank you again. Robert

So, what is the village in the picture?

In the picture Veseloe, view from south to north, the arrow points to the place of our excursion-a gully near Chatal-Kaya (its denticle is visible against the sky).

The second image shows a view from the Chufut-Kale settlement to the north, to Besh-Kosh Mountain and the road in the Biyuk-Ashlama gully (also known as Kuchuk - Ashlama on some maps).

Yes, it is interesting, it resembles the situation with the discovery of a new species (large!) - the Bednarik barbel by one Czech in places along and across the "studied" by our entomologists. From my modest experience in searching for rare bull whiskers in the Penza region - only when I began to explore/visit (once or twice a week!) points of interest (so-called stationary routes/points) I was able to find Elena's pigeons! And later, even by the behavior of this species, I began to distinguish them from different-sized caviar-and the material I collected was redefined by Boris Stradomsky (which he even wrote about in the thread about pigeon flies).

This post was edited by Penzyak - 25.02.2010 17: 24

Dear Colleagues! Simplicity! There is a mistake, borba: emotions - trust 2: 1 . One L. reducta from the Crimea (Bakchysarai) was left to Tolko, after investigation of L. reducta and P. egea... from Greece . Bakisarai L. reducta will be sent in a few days for Okoyem ... and Vova will continue to be his Father, sister... or what this L. reducta needs... you can say: back to the Matrix, after a field trip to Poland.
Robert

Dear Colleagues! Simplicity! There is a mistake, borba: emotions - trust 2: 1 . Ostalos tolko one L. reducta from Crimea (Bakchysaray), after investigation of L. reducta and P. egea... from Greece

Where there is one error, there may be a second one.
But it is always better to acknowledge your mistakes than to persist in proving them.
Thank you, dispar.

or what this L. reducta needs...

IMHO, it only needs one thing: an accurate label...

Where there is one error, there may be a second one.
But it is always better to acknowledge your mistakes than to persist in proving them.
Thank you, dispar.

well, what can I say... I'm ashamed, so I started looking for where I could make a mistake, as they say in our country: better later than in general. Currently, L. reducta from Bakchyaray is 99.99% higher... I can't believe that it's from my "mailbox" anymore
Robert

Did someone check Chiginitra in 2009? Did you find confirmation of the "sensations"? One of my entomologist friends went there and didn't meet any of the "Chiginitrinsky sensations"... Okoyom also seemed to be there, by the way... Let's see what he writes... Really-it turns out too much... Although-what the hell is not joking... In the Crimea, a maximum of five people are constantly actively catching butterflies, and they will not cover all the places, of course. The rest go either for something specific, or for a short period of time. So-time will tell. Red-dot dipper was caught in the Crimea in 1939, and then only in 2007 (2 copies). Leptotes pirithous and Lampides boeticus were indicated for Koreiz by Chetverikov even before the Great Patriotic War, and since then they have not been marked by anyone until 2007... Nymphalis xantomelas is also a mystery. Three meetings are known (if I'm not mistaken). After all, the Crimea is still badly trampled... By the way, can Polygonia egea and Limenitis reducta migrate?

Yes, the yege is quite capable of migration - it was even found in Czechoslovakia, while the nearest populations are on the coast of the Yege Sea and in Bulgaria, where the species flies in the mountains and even in the northern part of Bulgaria, where the climate is purely continental. By the way, in Bulgaria, even in the best of its habitats, the egea is a rare species, and my experience with it is such that for almost 20 years of research in the same valley, I came across only two specimens! Apparently, you need to know exactly where to look for this species - although it appears to be a xerothermophile, it seems to prefer shady, wetter areas in this hot valley. So the fact that the Unified State Exam was not found somewhere in a suitable place does not prove anything.

There can be a lot of things in the Crimea - I wouldn't be surprised if Egeya sometimes finds her way here, migrating along the Black Sea coast. As for Kirinia roxelana, I don't believe it, in the Balkans, the species barely goes to Romania, and from there it's a long way to the Crimea. By the way, I saw in one book a copy of Kirinia climene from the Crimea-did you know about it? Finding Klimene in the Crimea is quite expected for me and much more likely than Roxelana - maybe Nabokov made a mistake?

Yes, the yege is quite capable of migration - it was even found in Czechoslovakia, while the nearest populations are on the coast of the Yege Sea and in Bulgaria, where the species flies in the mountains and even in the northern part of Bulgaria, where the climate is purely continental. By the way, in Bulgaria, even in the best of its habitats, the egea is a rare species, and my experience with it is such that for almost 20 years of research in the same valley, I came across only two specimens! Apparently, you need to know exactly where to look for this species - although it appears to be a xerothermophile, it seems to prefer shady, wetter areas in this hot valley. So the fact that the Unified State Exam was not found somewhere in a suitable place does not prove anything.

There can be a lot of things in the Crimea - I wouldn't be surprised if Egeya sometimes finds her way here, migrating along the Black Sea coast. I don't believe about Kirinia rohelan, in the Balkans the species barely goes to Romania, and from there it's a long way to the Crimea. By the way, I saw in one book a copy of Kirinia tslimene from the Crimea-did you know about it? Finding Klimene in the Crimea is quite expected for me and much more likely than Roxelana - maybe Nabokov made a mistake?

It was me. Although the" Crimean " find of the Unified State Exam discussed here turned out to be erroneous, but still the Unified State Exam should be looked for there...

This post was edited by Zed - 10.03.2010 02: 07

Did someone check Chiginitra in 2009? Did you find confirmation of the "sensations"? One of my entomologist friends went there and didn't meet any of the "Chiginitrinsky sensations"...

What Chiginitren sensations are we talking about? It became interesting...

What Chiginitren sensations are we talking about? It became interesting...

Про першу знахідку Araschnia levana (Linnaeus, 1758) (Nymphalidae, Lepidoptera, Insecta) To Krimu.
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/S...hnia_levana.pdf

Знахідки нових для фауни Криму видів Nymphalidae та Lycaenidae (Lepidoptera)
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/Sirenko_Crimea.pdf