Catocala promissa

Is the butterfly still there?

here is a map of the C. promissa distribution from NE10
it may well be in your area

According to this map (the border is indicated correctly), it does not reach us ! I'm talking about those 300 km to its possible habitat. She just doesn't have anything to eat.
The butterfly is there, but not with me, it was caught with me, I'll try to take a picture of it if I get it.

For Olschwang's information, I have 3 C. promissa specimens in my collection - two caught in 2003 and one in 2005. All copies are fresh.
Fishing place-near Tolyatti, (Samara region), village. Fedorovka.

According to this map (the border is indicated correctly), it does not reach us ! I'm talking about those 300 km to its possible habitat. She just doesn't have anything to eat.
The butterfly is there, but not with me, it was caught with me, I'll try to take a picture of it if I get it.

Given the extent of its range, it is easy to imagine that the species can be found even 300 km to the east.

For Olschwang's information, I have 3 C. promissa specimens in my collection - two caught in 2003 and one in 2005. All copies are fresh.
Fishing place-near Tolyatti, (Samara region), village. Fedorovka.

You have it in Tolyatti and should normally be found (oaks grow, and the caterpillars have something to eat), we have no oaks, and it is not very clear what it does here. The truth is met only once in a quarter of a century of my observations...

Given the extent of its range, it is easy to imagine that the species can be found even 300 km to the east.

To fly, I agree, but not for permanent residence, or a new plant has appeared in her diet.

To fly, I agree, but not for permanent residence, or a new plant has appeared in her diet.

At my dacha in the Ryazan region, three kilometers from the house, there is an oak grove, in which both promissa and sponsa are available in large numbers and annually. But for 11 years of fishing outside the oak forest and when fishing on the river, NOT a SINGLE butterfly was caught. So, there are very serious doubts about the ability of C. promissa to cover really long distances.

To my dacha a couple of times promissa flew to the light. Let me explain that we are talking about the same place as in the previous message. That is, it can still fly 3 km. But here's the weird thing. When Mikhail and I were fishing for light in the oak grove itself, there were only a few butterflies on the screen, although there were a large number of them sitting on neighboring trunks. This means that in the mass it does not fly to UV even from the immediate vicinity. Accordingly, catching the light as a registration method does not work.

I have a copy from Lermontov, near Dzhubga (the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus), assembled by the light of an ordinary incandescent lamp (100 W) in August 2001.

To my dacha a couple of times promissa flew to the light. Let me explain that we are talking about the same place as in the previous message. That is, it can still fly 3 km. But here's the weird thing. When Mikhail and I were fishing for light in the oak grove itself, there were only a few butterflies on the screen, although there were a large number of them sitting on neighboring trunks. This means that in the mass it does not fly to UV even from the immediate vicinity. Accordingly, catching the light as a registration method does not work.

Promissa flies to the light. You're confusing it with sponsa. It's just that when we were fishing, the promise was already out of years and it was much smaller. But that's exactly what came on the screen.

I'm not saying it doesn't fly, just that it doesn't always fly. Therefore, it is impossible to make an unambiguous conclusion about its presence/absence in the vicinity, just without seeing it on the screen. I remember that only a couple of them came to us then, and there were dozens of them on the trunks, even by the end of the summer. When I caught grass cocoonworms there this year, there were none, although I met a lot of flying ones during the day. By the way, the sponsor once flew to my site for the light.

The question is very interesting, it's like catching Crebeta deidamia or Euphydryas intermedia
in Ufa or Kazan. Rude of course. I once caught a ksut on the Kodar, and this is the northern Transbaikalia, neither khukhry mukhry and also no one is interested. My point is that the find is not that interesting, but rather sporadic. When I caught the 3rd Chelis dahurica in the last hundred years almost in the middle Urals, according to Dubatolov, he was immediately interested, well done. And this find, I think, is much more interesting, and no one shows special attention.

If in the pictures it is, then in the Moscow region (MO. Ramensky district, Khripan) it periodically arrives at the light in July.

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