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zmey-gadukin, 30.05.2013 10:24

The information is as follows:
The region is eastern Ukraine. Donetsk region.
Place - private farmsteads, vegetable gardens.
Symptoms - the bite is absolutely painless, at the site of the bite there is redness, the size of a nickel, with a clear single puncture in the center, from which in some cases, a drop of blood is released. After a while, soft tissue edema begins, with redness and pain when walking. Finally passes, after 1-3 days.
Local paramedics do not know what it can bite and what is needed for treatment, because they have never encountered anything like this.
I, based on my meager knowledge of entomology, can assume that this is some kind of bedbug.
So I have a question. What can it be? What can be the consequences and how can it be treated?
Thank you in advance.
Egor.

This post was edited by zmey-gadukin - 30.05.2013 10: 49

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30.05.2013 22:13, Hierophis

Such redness-erythema I have left from the bite of midges, but they are not in diameter with a nickel and 5 mm. Maybe you have something similar on the background of increased sensitivity, so both erythema is greater and edema is formed. I read that this can be a reaction to a midge bite in some people.

31.05.2013 10:03, zmey-gadukin

As far as I know, the midge bites sensitively.
Yes, and not for me, but for several friends at once, they just told me repeatedly and showed me. Moreover, everything is the same for everyone ,but not everyone has pain. And since my friends are not friends with the Internet, I decided to search for the answer myself.
And if I'm not mistaken, the midge, as it were, "bites out" a piece of cloth, and then a puncture is clearly visible.

02.06.2013 10:27, Evgenich

zmey-gadukin
Did your friends go swimming anywhere?

This post was edited by Evgenich - 02.06.2013 10: 28

04.06.2013 16:17, zmey-gadukin

  zmey-gadukin
Did your friends go swimming anywhere?

No. There were houses in their own yards and gardens.

04.06.2013 17:26, lethrusk

There are also black Betelida wasps that are not large, so these bastards crawl into the leg and bite with a similar effect in the most tender places. During the beach season in our parks.

04.06.2013 17:27, lethrusk

There are also black Betelida wasps that are not large, so these bastards crawl into the leg and bite with a similar effect in the most tender places. During the beach season in our parks.

21.06.2013 14:10, STALKER20UA

Good time of day.

I'm trying to develop a mosquito repeller, but I'm faced with the fact that I can't find what sounds mosquitoes reproduce, what they reproduce these sounds with, and what organs of sound perception they have. Like a bat's ultrasonic locator signal, it should serve as a signal of fatal danger to a flock of mosquitoes. However, nowhere, even in the specialized literature, could I find how mosquitoes perceive ultrasound, and whether they perceive it in general.

Dear experts, maybe one of you has relevant information on the structure of the mosquito's body, and the communication of mosquitoes with each other and with the outside world? As a last resort, can you recommend where to look for this information?.

Thank you in advance.

05.07.2013 10:10, STALKER20UA

Don't any of the specialists have the information?

05.07.2013 10:24, vasiliy-feoktistov

Diethyltoluamide (DEA) they haven't come up with anything better yet, and they won't come up with anything in the near future.
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09.07.2013 11:55, STALKER20UA

  Diethyltoluamide (DEA) they haven't come up with anything better yet, and they won't come up with anything in the near future.


Dear professionals, the fact that there are very good chemical agents against mosquitoes is no secret to me. Mosquitoes, like all living things, must communicate. Therefore, they must have alarm signals, or danger signals. I know of a study that showed the inefficiency of radiation sources in a certain range of ultrasound. If necessary, I can provide a link. It can't be that none of the experts have published works on the study of sound signals of mosquitoes. If there are no such works, just say that such works do not exist in nature.

Sincerely, STALKER.

09.07.2013 16:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

Dear professionals, the fact that there are very good chemical agents against mosquitoes is no secret to me. Mosquitoes, like all living things, must communicate. Therefore, they must have alarm signals, or danger signals. I know of a study that showed the inefficiency of radiation sources in a certain range of ultrasound. If necessary, I can provide a link. It can't be that none of the experts have published works on the study of sound signals of mosquitoes. If there are no such works, just say that such works do not exist in nature.

Sincerely, STALKER.

Well, in this case, read the topic: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=509313
From yourself:
In 1980, I collected a similar repeller according to the scheme from the magazine "Young Technician" (there was such a one in the USSR): the result is no other than the effect on my own earssmile.gif, and since then I have been using only chemistry.

09.07.2013 17:03, guest: omar

Many such repellents were brought to me for testing. Mainly produced in Southeast Asian countries. Some of them could change the squeak range. No laboratory Aedes aegypti mosquitoes were affected.

09.07.2013 17:17, guest: omar

  Diethyltoluamide (DEA) they haven't come up with anything better yet, and they won't come up with anything in the near future.

IR 3535 is no less effective and not as toxic to humans. The problem is different - this compound is quite expensive in itself and therefore they are greedy to add it in large quantities to drugs like DEET (well, for example, 20,30, 50%). Therefore, it is added in small amounts (up to 15%) mainly in children's repellents.
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09.07.2013 17:51, vasiliy-feoktistov

IR 3535 is no less effective and not as toxic to humans. The problem is different - this compound is quite expensive in itself and therefore they are greedy to add it in large quantities to drugs like DEET (well, for example, 20,30, 50%). Therefore, it is added in small amounts (up to 15%) mainly in children's repellents.

But I don't see that.
I'm using it now Reftamide-maximum (28% DETA, killer stuff) and I pay attention to other insects, not mosquitoes smile.gifEverything else from the available ones that I tried (Mosquitall, Komaroff) is resting and nervously smoking on the sidelines.

11.07.2013 1:48, Bad Den

Mosquitoes, like all living things, must communicate. Therefore, they must have alarm signals, or danger signals.

Why are you so sure that a) they should communicate and b) they should communicate using sounds (not chemicals, for example)?

11.07.2013 10:27, STALKER20UA

Why are you so sure that a) they should communicate and b) they should communicate using sounds (not chemicals, for example)?


Dear, I assume that they should communicate. I don't know what they communicate by, sound or chemistry. I'm not a professional in entomology. For this reason, I asked the professionals that I wanted to hear a normal specialist's answer. However, I still don't see a serious response from a professional. And preferably with a reference to the literature. Those answers that I read are the answers of people like me who are just interested in entomology. The person gave a link with the words "in this case, read this", but this is just a discussion, but not a link to at least a professional article.

Sincerely, STALKER.

11.07.2013 12:34, Hierophis

I wonder what topic mosquitoes should communicate on-they share places where blood is the most delicious? )))
Yes, they don't have any alarms, you can check, pin one down so that it screams when there are about a dozen more blood drinking next to it, do you think the rest will fly away? smile.gif
Each female mosquito is on its own bloody hunt by itself, they do not form any flocks at the same time, what should they communicate about ?
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12.07.2013 22:26, CosMosk

and the swarming of males? - it's not easy, it's another thing that "communication" and "topic" are too anthropomorphic concepts)) Telepathy in humans is not explained,although those who have experienced it, they do not doubt, and where are the insects "communicating" about!))

12.07.2013 22:29, CosMosk

if the word communication is replaced with the word communication, then everything is simpler:
"How is acoustic communication of mosquitoes carried out? The male's hearing organ, the so-called Johnston's organ (Figure 10), is located at the base of the antennae, which, unlike the antennae of females, are densely covered with hundreds of long hairs. These sensory hairs act as resonators of the female's "voice", separating the main tone of the female's flight from her own tone and other sounds. The two antennas located on the front of the head are located at a certain angle to each other and serve as an ideal device for stereo sound perception. They not only perceive sound waves coming from the female and transmit them to the brain and other centers, but being independent in their movements, they act as locators that determine the approximate location of the female." http://komar.molbiol.ru/komar_28.html

13.07.2013 13:07, Hierophis

Well, this does not mean the search for a female by malessmile.gif, although it is difficult to call it communication, communication is still a bidirectional process, and when a male is looking for a female, it is more likely to be guided by specific signals smile.gif

And of course, this will not help STALKER20UA in its development of a repeller in any way.
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13.07.2013 20:56, STALKER20UA

The sensory systems of male mosquitoes are really not of any interest. Unless I'm mistaken, they feed on the blood of a female. And the males seem to feed on nectar. Or am I wrong?

Thank you for the helpful link.


Sincerely, STALKER

This post was edited by STALKER20UA - 13.07.2013 20: 57

14.07.2013 1:17, CosMosk

STALKER, sun is correct with nutrition) interesting in woodlice=ceratopogonids-transitions from saprophagia-nectarophagia, insects suck hemolymph, on humans...what else can you find in this group!!?

Hierophis, "communication is still a bidirectional process", do not consider it trolling, but whether people "communicate" with a brain, or rather influence each other, which is also more obvious in a female-male pair.)) Although seriously, there are more questions about the definition of concepts and terms))

ps: I read Blodd here...Humandear me, I advise you ) I will try to understand the scientific part too.. and about science, history, mecrobeoaruzhei, the origin of living systems...

11.03.2014 16:37, ВалерияСиднева

help please. tell me when the summer period begins for females, and when for males of hawk moth? and how to determine the gender of representatives of this family?

11.03.2014 17:49, Alexandr Zhakov

The question is not clear. What region are you interested in? what types are of interest? In almost all species of hawk moth, the antennae of males are larger than the antennae of females and, as a rule, females are larger. Males fly out before females. check out this forum thread:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=185709&st=750
and these sites:
http://insectamo.ru/hete/96-hete/sphingidae/802-sphingidae
http://lepidoptera.eu/ListFamily.php?famil...idae&country=XX

09.06.2015 12:22, аруд

Good people!! Who knows how old the caterpillar Canephora hirsuta is????777777 Mercy however.

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