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06.04.2011 14:37, алекс 2611

Megachile CalloTHA1 such a view is given there, very similar to one of my views, but I can't figure out what kind of view it is... confused.gif


I'm afraid that CalloTHA1 has nothing to do with the name of the view.

06.04.2011 14:52, AVA

How's the Cerceris software? free time didn't show up? ))


Hmm, passed the next "netlenku", and you can carve out free time. True, there is little benefit from that.
The first species is almost certainly C. arenaria.
With the second one, everything is much more complicated. I looked through all the collections, but I didn't find a single species that combines the almost smooth dorsal field of the propodeum and the barely dotted tergites of the abdomen. Not to mention the coloring, etc. In short, it hovers between tinnula, quadrifasciata, cupes and a couple of other species.
In general, as I said, to determine Cerceris, and moreover males-it is almost unguaranteed. I'm sorry...

06.04.2011 15:18, AVA

I'm afraid that CalloTHA1 has nothing to do with the name of the view.


Of course, it doesn't. This is just a designation for the owner of the collection. THA1 is just Thailand # 1. But what is "Callo", I could not find out. wall.gif
By the way, there is another species with a similar white pubescence at the base of the abdomen - Chalicodoma pluto (Smith, 1860). True, it is just a giant with a length of almost 4 cm and huge mandibles. wink.gif

06.04.2011 15:24, AVA

How's the Cerceris software? free time didn't show up? ))


Oh, by the way, did you try to remove the muzzle of Provespa's face? I wonder ... wink.gif

06.04.2011 15:39, akulich-sibiria

sorry for the megahile.... frown.gif
there is no Provespa software, I didn't do it. I'll try....
for tsertseris thank wink.gifyou

06.04.2011 15:44, akulich-sibiria

I messed up something, it looks like the second one is a female (cerceris) please excuse me ((

06.04.2011 15:56, akulich-sibiria

I named it initially as C. albofasciata female

06.04.2011 16:05, AVA

I messed up something, it looks like the second one is a female (cerceris) please excuse me ((


No, everything is correct, 7 segments of the abdomen, the shape of the platypus, brushes of thick hairs on the sides of the platypus - this is a male, definitely.

PS The female albofasciata has a peculiar shape of the platypus-as if separated from the general surface (but not raised), the forked front lobe in the middle. In addition, the dorsal field of the propodeum is completely smooth, without wrinkles or ribs even at the edges, the tergite punctuation is rough, and the yugal (=basal) lobe is noticeably longer than its width and only 1.5 times shorter than the anal cell. This is a different group of species altogether...

This post was edited by AVA-06.04.2011 16: 17
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06.04.2011 16:22, akulich-sibiria

well, that's what happened, maybe it's hard to see..
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06.04.2011 16:55, AVA

well, that's what happened, maybe it's hard to see..


So, now you can say something definite.
This is Provespa anomala (de Saussure, 1854)
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06.04.2011 17:44, С Олег

What kind of bumblebee? Taken on 06.06.2010. Tatarstan. Naberezhnye Chelny.

Pictures:
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06.04.2011 17:49, AVA

Thank you. Of course it is useful.


Oh, by the way... And I'm not at all sure that the macrina image shows exactly Xylocopa.
Where did those creepy stubble legs go? Hardly peeled off from the solutions. In addition, Xylocopa does not have such a strongly convex platypus, the punctuation of the mid-spine is much weaker, and the temples are noticeably longer than the eyes.
There is a very strong suspicion that this is a bumblebee of some kind... wink.gif
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06.04.2011 18:12, akulich-sibiria

Male Cerceris (Panzer, 1799) Khakassia, on cruciferous plants. Approx. 7 mm.
1. The dot on the first tergite is faintly visible..
2. 2. The median field of the interval is transversely wrinkled.
3. the basal lobe of the hindwing is short.
4. 7 sternitis of the abdomen with long hairs bent and directed towards the middle
5. punctuation of the abdomen is rough and frequent.
6. Mid-thighs seem to be free of long hairs.
7. platypus at the top with three weak protrusions, unpaired in the middle.
It looks similar to arenaria, but it is much smaller and the wrinkles of the median field are transverse, and not going from top to bottom.
Maybe it's a quadricincta?
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06.04.2011 18:28, akulich-sibiria

Male like Cerceris quadrifasciata Khakassia, on spirea. 8-9 mm.
it is very similar to the previous view, but the punctuation of the abdomen is rather weak and sparse.
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06.04.2011 19:01, akulich-sibiria

like a male cerceris sabulosa
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07.04.2011 13:48, AVA

Male Cerceris (Panzer, 1799) Khakassia, on cruciferous plants. Approx. 7 mm.

Indeed, it is very similar to Cerceris quadricincta (Panzer, 1799), although the last segment of the antennae is somewhat long
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07.04.2011 13:52, AVA

Male like Cerceris quadrifasciata Khakassia, on spirea. 8-9 mm.
it is very similar to the previous view, but the punctuation of the abdomen is rather weak and sparse.

By the way, in quadrifasciata, the abdomen is also very slightly dotted, but there are usually only 4 light bandages (on 2-5 tergites), and in general the chest is almost entirely black.
In my opinion, this one looks more like Cerceris sibirica F. Morawitz, 1892.
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07.04.2011 13:54, AVA

like a male cerceris sabulosa

This is Cerceris sabulosa (Panzer, 1799), almost unambiguously.
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07.04.2011 18:25, akulich-sibiria

By the way, in quadrifasciata, the abdomen is also very slightly dotted, but there are usually only 4 light bandages (on 2-5 tergites), and in general the chest is almost entirely black.
In my opinion, this one looks more like Cerceris sibirica F. Morawitz, 1892.


I didn't see this, you will need to search

07.04.2011 18:36, akulich-sibiria

in the Far East I found it, there the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory is indicated, tomorrow I will drive along the theses

07.04.2011 22:49, Frantic

A couple of wasps from Namibia.

Pictures:
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08.04.2011 2:50, akulich-sibiria

As I understand it, Cerceris sibirica F is quite large wasps, more than 10 mm, but I do not reach 8-9.

08.04.2011 9:00, AVA

As I understand it, Cerceris sibirica F is quite large wasps, more than 10 mm, but I do not reach 8-9.


These are the females, and the size of the males varies greatly. See, for example, the differences in C. arenaria.

08.04.2011 9:08, AVA

A couple of wasps from Namibia.


Unfortunately, wasps are not butterflies, and it is very difficult to determine them by their general appearance. Especially at this scale, when even the key features of subfamilies are not visible. Especially from such exotic places, where every second person is endemic. As a preliminary:
the 1st is a road wasp (Pompilidae), most likely from the subfamily Pepsinae (possibly Anoplius sp.)
The 2nd one is very similar to the genus Delta from the subfamily Eumeninae of the fold-winged wasps (Vespidae).
And then-without any chances. frown.gif

08.04.2011 13:31, Frantic

Yes, no, both wasps of the bm are really defined. Most likely, they are Batozonellus fuliginosus Klug, 1834 and Delta emarginatum (Linnaeus, 1758).

08.04.2011 13:48, akulich-sibiria

by C sibirica F.Mor agrees with you completely!! really similar, I just looked at Kazakhstan, there was no such thing.

08.04.2011 14:38, AVA

Yes, no, both wasps of the bm are really defined. Most likely, they are Batozonellus fuliginosus Klug, 1834 and Delta emarginatum (Linnaeus, 1758).


Hmm, are you really sure that you can so easily identify species of exotic pompilids and Eumeninae from small photographs that do not show signs of not only species, but also genera and even subfamilies? I can only envy you...

Yes, just in case, the range of Delta emarginatum (Linnaeus, 1758), as far as I know, does not reach South Africa.
Well, you can see for yourself what Batozonellus fuliginosus looks like:
http://www.waspweb.org/Vespoidea/Pompilida...fuliginosus.htm

08.04.2011 14:58, AVA

by C sibirica F.Mor agrees with you completely!! It's really similar, I just looked at Kazakhstan, there was no such thing there.


This is the main disadvantage of the so-called "regional" keys. Insects do not know about our administrative borders and live wherever they can.

08.04.2011 15:48, Frantic

I used the book Field guide to Insects of South Africa. There are good photos. I know this site, yes. In any case, the gender is 100% correct. That's something. And so-the main thing for me-memories of hunting:)

08.04.2011 17:09, С Олег

Who can help you identify bumblebees?

Pictures:
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08.04.2011 17:36, akulich-sibiria

In short, it hovers between tinnula, quadrifasciata, cupes and a couple of other species.
according to this species, I have discrepancies between cupes and illiensis in my scutellum black, zadneschitik with a yellow spot. But the legs are mostly yellow-red, not so much black.

08.04.2011 17:41, akulich-sibiria

and in green it goes to quadrifasciata, but there are no other species besides this species, but the breast with yellow spots. I don't know if this is possible for this type..

08.04.2011 17:49, akulich-sibiria

Cerceris falcifera Tsun

08.04.2011 17:56, AVA

I used the book Field guide to Insects of South Africa. There are good photos. I know this site, yes. In any case, the gender is 100% correct. That's something. And so-the main thing for me-memories of hunting:)


Well, if you held these oss in your hands, and even identified them not by pictures, but by keys and corresponding signs, then you might well not be mistaken. But there's almost nothing you can tell for sure from the suggested image.

08.04.2011 17:59, AVA

Cerceris falcifera Tsun is also suitable for the Far East

Eh, you won't have to suffer too much. Still, no one but Cazenas can be more specific. I rely only on the materials that I have in the museum, and it is the whole of Kazakhstan and Wed.Asia and the surrounding area was covered by myself. eek.gif

08.04.2011 18:06, AVA

Who can help you identify bumblebees?


It is difficult to be sure, since the pubescence at the end of the abdomen (starting from the top of the 4th segment) and, moreover, the structure of the head (parietal eyes, cheeks) are not visible. And from the picture we can only assume that it can be B. lucorum, B. terrestris or B. soroensis. frown.gif

08.04.2011 18:43, akulich-sibiria

although in Kazakhstan there may be a barrei Rad this species can live here?

08.04.2011 18:46, akulich-sibiria

The male, I think, is Cerceris ruficornis, Khakassia.
The fossa on the 1st tergite shows
the median field of the interval. a segment with longitudinal wrinkles.
The 7th sternite seems to be bare, without long hairs.
The sides of the chest have large cells, rather shiny.
Posterior corners of the 6th sternite with hairs collected in bunches, as if glued together. Although it is difficult to say whether they are glued together at the top or simply collected
on the platband, the hairs are glued together from the sides. Punctuation of the abdomen is rough.
Hind thighs at the top, middle and front, black at the base, black spots on the outer edge reaching almost to the joint with the shins. The rear basins are yellow with black spots, the front and middle ones are black.
The trim at the top is actually straight. It actually forms a straight line with the headpiece.
Although scutifera is also possible
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08.04.2011 18:47, akulich-sibiria

something I got confused in them, maybe it makes no sense so here's a finger in the sky to poke, sign cerceris sp, still lied half.... frown.gif frown.gif wall.gif

08.04.2011 19:18, akulich-sibiria

South of the region, male, as I think it is C. albofasciata Rossi.
Platelet blades with glued hairs. The punctuation of the face is rough, rather dense. The top of the platypus with a rather noticeable unpaired denticle.
Median field of the gap. segment shiny
basal lobe of hindwings, longer than 1/3, but less than half.
Tergite punctuation is rough.
the median segments of the whiskers are longer than their width.
Sternites without a yellow pattern. The pattern of stripes on the tergites is pale yellow
The legs are light, but with darker spots, especially at the base of the thighs.
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