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27.09.2006 8:01, AVA

This is not a nymph, but a short-winged female...


How do you know it's an imago? confused.gif
Personally, I see a not fully developed end of the abdomen, which may indicate that it may be a nymph of the last age (judging by the rudiments of wings). wink.gif

27.09.2006 9:32, Насекомовед

These are not the beginnings of "wings". What you see are elytra, or elytra. This is the real imago of a brachypter female. In the larvae of full-winged species, the wings protrude from under the elytra and are clearly visible.

27.09.2006 15:41, PVOzerski

Let me clarify: in the larvae of full-winged species, the fan-shaped rudiments of the hind wings lie outward from the rudiments of the elytra, partially (usually very significantly) covering them. - http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=83923.

30.11.2006 23:26, okoem

Help me identify the blacksmith. Taken in Crimea, in September, on a rocky slope.

Pictures:
picture: 117_28.jpg
117_28.jpg — (39.88к)

30.11.2006 23:37, Vlad Proklov

Help me identify the blacksmith. Taken in Crimea, in September, on a rocky slope.


Well, this is clearly Drymadusini. And in the Crimea, as far as I know, there are 2 species: Anadrymadusa retowskii and Paradrymadusa galitzini. And I don't know which one, I don't know these grasshoppers personally smile.gif

Update: Since it has short wings , it must be Paradrymadusa galitzini (Anadrymadusa females are wingless).

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11/30/2006 23: 47

01.12.2006 13:34, okoem

2 Kotbegemot Thank you! retowskii really disappears, because I have met them more than once and know them well. I didn't pay attention to the wings, but the individual color elements are noticeably different from this instance.

By the way, I have a photo of retowskii on my website.

This post was edited by okoem - 12/01/2006 13: 52
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01.12.2006 14:25, Tigran Oganesov

What kind of view is this? The genus is similar to Paradymadusa.
Sochi

picture: drymadusa.JPG

01.12.2006 18:51, andr_mih

to Doof

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_non2.jpg exactly biguttulus (see blade on the front wing)
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_non3.jpg it looks more like biguttulus, although the most interesting place is covered with a knee.
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_ob3.jpg most likely brunneus, although the most interesting place is covered with a knee.
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm1.jpg most likely brunneus, though -//-
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm3.jpg the same thing.
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm5.jpg someone's head, right?
With females it is more difficult, some even do not pass the definitive key. But on average, brunneus females are larger than biguttulus, fly better, and have fewer abrupt color changes. In biguttulus 2, the spots on the elytra are more pronounced than in brunneus (for which they received their Latin name). And the mollis has narrow wings, well, the size is not the same anymore. For example:
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_ob1.jpg - I would not say 100% that this is brunneus, more like biguttulus
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_non1.jpg - brunneus by 90%
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm2.jpg - not changeable, but brown.
The rest are OK.
Yes, and where were the short-winged swordsmen filmed, if it's not a secret?

to Bolivar

And this one looks like the usual Pholidoptera griseoaptera (=cinerea), but it's too big for something.
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01.12.2006 18:55, Vlad Proklov

What kind of view is this? The genus is similar to Paradymadusa.
Sochi


I can't disagree with andr_mih: in my opinion, too, Pholidoptera griseoaptera...
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01.12.2006 20:37, Tigran Oganesov

  
And this one looks like the usual Pholidoptera griseoaptera (=cinerea), but it's too big for something.
Yes, that's right, thank you.

23.01.2007 22:05, Guest

It doesn't look like it. Here are the locusta nymphs, male (~37mm) and female (~45mm). Single phase.

PS As it turned out, this is not Locusta, but Anacridium aegyptium

Can I ask again who is in this photo?
Dscn0032.jpg — (33.94к)

24.01.2007 19:19, phlomis

Please help me with the animals. Just comments, please, for the teapot, as I'm a nerd. shuffle.gif

ins_1. Turkey, Between Antalya and Kemer. About 5 cm. Live is not so contrasting.
ins_2. Rostov region, south-east, Tsagan-Khak lake. About 4 cm long. It was blown away by the wind on the salt crust.
ins_3. Rostov region., Don. About 4 cm long. There were still similar, but darker, brown ones. Only this one came out in the picture.

Thank you in advance. wink.gif

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picture: ins_2.jpg
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picture: ins_3.jpg
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24.01.2007 19:33, Vlad Proklov

Please help me with the animals. Just comments, please, for the teapot, as I'm a nerd. shuffle.gif

Thank you in advance. wink.gif


1. Egyptian filly (Anacridium aegyptium), female.
2. White-fronted grasshopper (Decticus albifrons), female.
3. Similar to sevchuk Servillya (Onconotus servillei), male. I don't know if they are there-in Storozhenko's monograph on the long-whiskered erect-winged birds of Asian Russia, Turkey is not indicated for him. Interesting.

Update: Ugh, inattentive! Just posting, I noticed that from Turkey only the first photo smile.gifof course is Sevchuk!

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 24.01.2007 19: 45

24.01.2007 21:33, phlomis

Thanks! smile.gif

26.01.2007 11:08, Tigran Oganesov

Can I ask again who is in this photo?
Dscn0032.jpg — (33.94к)

Female nymph Anacridium aegyptium

05.02.2007 18:50, Alexander Zarodov

To andr_mih:

I just noticed your message. Thank you, I will understand smile.gif

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_ob3.jpg - exactly brunneus - checked by sound
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm1.jpg - exactly biguttulus - similar
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm3.jpg - most likely, biguttulus, since I have never met brunneus there (this is the lawn in front of the house at my dacha)
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm5.jpg - the head of some biguttulus, sound-tested wink.gif

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_ob1.jpg "I'm not sure about that either...

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/konek_izm2.jpg - I got confused, I'll probably fix it

06.02.2007 21:43, andr_mih

Thank you. I've had some bad luck with short-winged birds so far-I've only come across common Bitts in the floodplain...

09.03.2007 13:22, Sv Kononova

Good afternoon, dear experts!
Please accept a question from an amateur confused.gif
I try to put my photo library in order on www.kononova.ru "and now my hands have reached the grasshoppers.
Please tell me who is who?

user posted image
figure 1

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figure 2

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figure 3

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figure 4

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figure 5

I will be very grateful for your help!

This post was edited by Sv_Kononova - 03/14/2007 08: 38

09.03.2007 16:26, Bad Den

My opinion of a non-specialist on erect wingssmile.gif

Fig. 4-nymph Decticus verrucivorus (grasshopper gray)
Fig.5 - male Tettigonia cantans (song grasshopper)
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09.03.2007 18:09, Guest

2 Bad Den ->> Thanks to the layman smile.gif
How do you distinguish between them? Green, singing, gray-they are so similar!

I'm on my page about grasshoppers I tried to organize the photos myself, but it didn't work out confused.gif
And in dragonflies completely confused between the lyutkami and arrows, as well as in real dragonflies-who is yellow, who is red, who is still some other...

Much to learn cool.gif

09.03.2007 19:37, andr_mih

http://www.kononova.ru/Foto-ins/crw_8480.jpg - grasshopper tailed
http://www.kononova.ru/Foto-ins/2006/1904.JPG - jump green
rice 1 and 3-zelenchuk unpaired (male and female)
rice 2 - brown horse
Otherwise agrees with Bad Den
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14.03.2007 8:27, guest: Sv_Kononova

Good afternoon!
Please tell me who it is -

user posted image

I understand that the angle is simply terrible to determine, but is it possible to tell by the "cap" behind the head at least approximately who it is?

Thanks!

14.03.2007 8:37, Sv Kononova

Good afternoon, dear experts!

Tell me, please, and who is this?

user posted image

And one more question. And how can you tell a tailed grasshopper from a green one and a green one from a songbird? I'm confused...

This post was edited by Sv_Kononova - 03/14/2007 08: 39

14.03.2007 19:13, andr_mih

This is a brown horse. The tailed one has a long tail, while the songbird has short wings.
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14.03.2007 19:15, andr_mih

This jump is green. The cap should be on the head, and what is behind the head is a saddle.
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16.03.2007 9:22, Sv Kononova

One more question, if you don't mind. Who's that?"

user posted image

16.03.2007 9:27, Sv Kononova

Thanks! I understood about the distinctive features of the song grasshopper-I will focus on short wings.

But I have another UFO smile.gif)

user posted image

Can you tell me who it is?

16.03.2007 10:17, Vlad Proklov

One more question, if you don't mind. Who's that?"


And this is the nymph of the gray grasshopper (Decticus verrucivorus).
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16.03.2007 10:29, Sv Kononova

Who's that?" Zelenchuk unpaired?

user posted image

16.03.2007 10:33, Vlad Proklov

Who's that?" Zelenchuk unpaired?


Ага.
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16.03.2007 15:13, Sv Kononova

And whose nymph is this? Please tell me!

user posted image

19.03.2007 8:58, Mylabris

Please help me identify locusts. SE Kazakhstan.

Pictures:
picture: 13.jpg
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picture: 14.jpg
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19.03.2007 17:36, vitnaz

This is a larva-nymph of the first instar of a grasshopper, sem. Tettigoniidae, possibly also Decticus verrucivorus
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20.03.2007 10:10, PVOzerski

Grasshopper nymph (on a blade of grass, head down, 16.03.2007 15:13) - some kind of jump. Probably the same green.
14.jpg - I would say that the female Chorthippus biguttulus is without taking into account the fact that several very similar species still "walk" under this name. In Kazakhstan, it may well be some Ch. porphyropterus.
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20.03.2007 17:53, afanasev-max

Female grey grasshopper Decticus verrucivorus
picture: DSCN2159.JPG

P.S. Many thanks to the specialists for the definition beer.gif

20.03.2007 18:54, Dinusik

And in what area was the photo taken?

20.03.2007 20:29, Victor Titov

Sort of like the female grey grasshopper Decticus verrucivorus?
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21.03.2007 8:49, afanasev-max

And in what area was the photo taken?

The photo was taken in fields near Pushchino (south of the Moscow region), at the end of August...

21.03.2007 13:58, энтузиаст

shuffle.gif and why does the brown horse have such a small mustache?

21.03.2007 14:14, энтузиаст

about Podisma teberdina! It seems that after all this is Podisma uvarovi...

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