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27.09.2007 10:55, volucella

Please excuse me, I thought it was this way...

Thank you so much for your help!

27.09.2007 11:07, Насекомовед

And for what "sorry"? You did everything right and thought you were right

27.09.2007 11:37, Vlad Proklov

And for what "sorry"? You did everything right and you thought right

But no, well, after all, freckles are not straight-winged...

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27.09.2007 13:17, Насекомовед

But no, well, after all, freckles are not straight-winged...

Freckles are "straight-winged" in the broadest sense. Even in the determinants, for example, of the Far East of the USSR, Vol. 1, they are located between cockroaches and actually straight-winged ones.

These are caddis flies-relatives of butterflies

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28.09.2007 12:18, Vlad Proklov

Freckles are "straight-winged" in the broadest sense. Even in the determinants, for example, of the Far East of the USSR, Vol. 1, they are located between cockroaches and actually straight-winged ones.

These are caddis flies-relatives of butterflies

Well, there is different points of view...

And it certainly doesn't include proboscids.

28.09.2007 14:11, Насекомовед

There are many different points of view. For example, according to the Chinese locust genera Bryodema (B. gebleri, etc.) and Bryodemella (B. tuberculatum, B. holdereri, etc.) are representatives of different families!

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28.09.2007 15:17, guest: Brandashmyg

A good example of the fact that it is better not to use Russian names ("straight-winged") at all - this only causes confusion in the minds...

Polyneoptera = Orthopteroidea sensu lato (usually in the rank of an infra-order) - stranded (how ugly does it sound, huh?) or orthopteroid in the broad sense. it includes cockroaches, grylloblattids, freckles, embia, earwigs, pryamopterans in the narrow sense, etc.

Orthopteroidea sensu stricto ( in the rank of superorder) - straight-winged in the narrow sense: straight-winged, stick insects and the now deceased titanoptera (carboniferous? - Triassic).

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28.09.2007 16:28, Насекомовед

Thank you for the explanation of the valiant workers of ZIN'a

04.10.2007 12:06, Guest

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28072007040fl4.jpg

Guys, who is this?

04.10.2007 12:13, omar

Something too much extra is loaded along with the picture, guest. This is Tettigonia cantans, a female singing grasshopper. From now on, choose better where to post your photos.

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08.10.2007 4:29, Furslen

With such a rather bright filly, please help, Southern Urals, approximately 1.6 cm
user posted image

08.10.2007 5:10, Vlad Proklov

With such a rather bright filly, please help, Southern Urals, about 1.6 cm

In general, it looks like a large swamp filly (Stethophyma grossum) - but it should be larger than one and a half cm.

The post was edited by kotbegemot - 08.10.2007 05: 11

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08.10.2007 9:37, omar

They have everything dwarfed there

08.10.2007 12:20, Furslen

In general, it looks like a large swamp filly (Stethophyma grossum) - but it should be larger than one and a half cm.

this one might be bigger)
thank you

12.10.2007 16:23, Guest

I'll forgive you: who do you think it is: http://keep4u.ru/full/071012/bc934bb3026d129650/jpg
I think Tettigonia, but I'm not sure.

12.10.2007 19:46, Bad Den

I'll forgive you: who do you think it is: http://keep4u.ru/full/071012/bc934bb3026d129650/jpg
I think Tettigonia, but I'm not sure.

This is Decticus verrucivorus, I think

12.10.2007 19:51, Насекомовед

Such "Guest" messages are most likely similar to spam or simply linking someone else's site on the forum. But I may be wrong.

12.10.2007 20:51, Guest

Thanks for the answer!
Insect expert, I registered here a long time ago, but I forgot my password

, and I don't have time to register again.

13.10.2007 12:38, Tigran Oganesov

Thanks for the answer!
Insect expert, I registered here a long time ago, but I forgot my password , and I don't have time to register again.

Katya, to you here.

13.10.2007 13:50, Насекомовед

I'm sorry, I was confused by the inscription on the loading page: "Keep4u.ru it has nothing to do with the authors and content of the image. [complain]", as well as advertising for adults...

15.10.2007 0:20, Furslen

What a filly -
user posted image

perhaps the last one who still jumps, almost already in the snow). Chelyabinsk region

This post was edited by Furslen - 10/15/2007 00: 21

15.10.2007 0:23, Vlad Proklov

What a filly-
perhaps the last one who still jumps, almost already in the snow). Chelyabinsk region

It is similar to Chorthippus apricarius, but beyond the Urals there may be something of its own...

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15.10.2007 15:46, Alexander Zarodov

Now I ask you to help with the pryamoptera. It's generally a dark forest here, and there isn't even a suitable site with pictures

Montenegro, late September-early October.

Apparently, this is Oedipoda.

1. Reddish-orange wings. O. germanica?

picture: mnorth02.jpg

2. Blue wings. O. caerulescens?

picture: mnorth05.jpg

3. I don't remember the color of the wings, but also like germanica?

picture: mnorth03.jpg

15.10.2007 16:43, Vlad Proklov

Now I ask you to help with the pryamoptera. It's generally a dark forest here, and there isn't even a suitable site with pictures

With blue wings - exactly O. c o erulescens, the third, like also Oedipoda sp..
But the first one-can the back thigh be large? In Oedipoda sp. there is a "step" there, although it is less pronounced in O. germanica.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 10/15/2007 17: 03

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15.10.2007 16:53, Alexander Zarodov

The thigh is larger. Isn't there a step?"

Pictures:
picture: mnorth02x.jpg

mnorth02x.jpg — (87.88к)

15.10.2007 17:01, Vlad Proklov

The thigh is larger. Isn't there a step?"

Yes, that's her. So, O. germanica.

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15.10.2007 17:28, Alexander Zarodov

Now the skates.

1. Crackled like Ch. mollis, I suppose he is?

picture: mnorth8.jpg

2. But I couldn't determine this one. He spoke very softly, in long tirades. Numerous species in the grass in the meadow. Similar to Stenobothrus lineatus .

picture: mnorth7.jpg

This post was edited by Double A - 10/15/2007 17: 31

15.10.2007 17:35, Vlad Proklov

Now the skates.

The first seems to be mollis -- and the second seems to be Stenobothrus rubicundulus.

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15.10.2007 17:56, Насекомовед

the second seems to be Stenobothrus rubicundulus.

This type was never specified from the Moscow region

15.10.2007 17:57, Vlad Proklov

This type was never specified from the Moscow region

This is from Montenegro

15.10.2007 20:25, Насекомовед

Understood. Missed two posts above

15.10.2007 22:29, Alexander Zarodov

Another couple of short-wings from Montenegro. There are no assumptions at all

Pictures:
picture: mnorth09.jpg

mnorth09.jpg — (113.14к)

picture: mnorth10.jpg

mnorth10.jpg — (126.99к)

15.10.2007 22:47, Vlad Proklov

Another couple of short-wings from Montenegro. There are no assumptions at all

In my opinion, this is Pezotettix giornae.

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15.10.2007 23:02, Alexander Zarodov

In my opinion, this is Pezotettix giornae.

Yes, they are similar, thank you! What do they call themselves in Russian?

15.10.2007 23:10, Vlad Proklov

Yes, they are similar, thank you! What do they call themselves in Russian?

Yes, it seems nothing. There simply wasn't a Lampert-type book about them translated by Kholodkovsky in Russian, where everyone would certainly come up with Russian names.

15.10.2007 23:20, Alexander Zarodov

Clearly, it will remain in Latin.

Why here: http://kotbegemot.livejournal.com/127540.html subfamilies are called families, are these the latest trends?

15.10.2007 23:35, Vlad Proklov

Why here: http://kotbegemot.livejournal.com/127540.html subfamilies are called families, are these the latest trends?

Thornbills are often separated into a separate family. And the rest, like, everything is the same as before. Only I broke more crickets there than I needed to.

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15.10.2007 23:43, Alexander Zarodov

I meant that here http://osf2.orthoptera.org/ For example, Catantopinae is a subfamily. But you can select it. Apparently, I have something else in Catantopidae that will fall

15.10.2007 23:51, Vlad Proklov

I meant that here http://osf2.orthoptera.org/ For example, Catantopinae is a subfamily. But you can select it. Apparently, I still have something in the Catantopidae will fall

There (on OSF online), somehow they don't really follow the taxonomy...
Google, meanwhile, at the request of Catantopidae gives under 16 and a half thousand results against 918 on Catantopinae.
Of course, it will fall to them: pruses, podisms of all sorts, an Egyptian filly...

16.10.2007 8:35, Насекомовед

There (on OSF online), somehow they don't really follow the taxonomy...
Google, meanwhile, at the request of Catantopidae gives under 16 and a half thousand results against 918 on Catantopinae.

Google is an example of modern taxonomy, especially in erect-winged birds!

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