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29.01.2017 20:12, Александрс

Can someone identify the client? Kharkiv region, Krasnokutsky district, Vladimir region. 2010-07-04. Thanks!

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29.01.2017 20:59, Vlad Proklov

Can someone identify the client? Kharkiv region, Krasnokutsky district, Vladimir region. 2010-07-04. Thanks!

Celes variabilis

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31.01.2017 16:39, PVOzerski

Celes variabilis

And I think Oedipoda.

31.01.2017 20:46, Vlad Proklov

And I think Oedipoda.

But I wonder - at what age does the Oedipoda step become distinct?
These little things have a hint of her, but..."
Yes, and they are some kind of dark.
And ribbing on the pronotum like celes.

31.01.2017 21:38, PVOzerski

But I wonder - at what age does the Oedipoda step become distinct?
These little things have a hint of her, but..."
Yes, and they are some kind of dark.
And ribbing on the pronotum like celes.

And the shape of the head is like that of an Oedipoda.
I catch oedipod larvae from time to time in the Pskov region (hedgehogs will be fine - in the summer they will be very much needed alive). I can't say that offhand, but I don't think they have a very clear step. And there is no one to confuse them in those Pskov regions: tseles are simply unthinkable, pzofuses are very different, rattles have never been found. And as for the dark color-it just happens. In Oedipus, the color of the integument can generally actively adapt to the background. The French also had publications about this, and I observed them when they were kept in captivity.

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31.01.2017 23:28, Vlad Proklov

And the shape of the head is like that of an Oedipoda.
I catch oedipod larvae from time to time in the Pskov region (hedgehogs will be fine - in the summer they will be very much needed alive). I can't say that offhand, but I don't think they have a very clear step. And there is no one to confuse them in those Pskov regions: tseles are simply unthinkable, pzofuses are very different, rattles have never been found. And as for the dark color-it just happens. In Oedipus, the color of the integument can generally actively adapt to the background. The French also had publications about this, and I observed them when they were kept in captivity.

Head shape - female just, imho.
And the general color is understandable, especially if there is some fumes there.

But then I took a closer look , and I also started making fun of it, and I also began to lean towards O. caerulescens (miniata in Kharkiv region is unrealistic after all): comparing celes and oedipoda adults - the first pronotum is not as sharp behind as the second:

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01.02.2017 23:59, Кархарот

This is an unusual question. There is such an article, Julliard C. 1950. Nid de l’Odynerus scoticus Curtis. (Hym. Vespidae). Mitteilungen der Schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft, 23 (4): 369–376. In it, the author claims that he found wasp nests in the form of strong cells, some of which are buried in the soil, and some are exposed to varying degrees under the influence of weathering (and persist for years). Wasps cannot build such cells, but they can populate ready-made cavities. I think these are locust pods (which were inhabited by these wasps).
Please contact specialists in erect wings to confirm or refute my assumptions. Here are illustrations of these "nests" from this article:

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03.02.2017 22:35, PVOzerski

It doesn't look much like normal pods, except for the anomalous ones made on an open surface by species that usually form them in the soil. But without looking and (what would be even better) touching the material of which these formations consist, I will not say anything definite. Although there are big doubts in any case. A pitcher is not the strongest formation to settle in, not for the sake of feeding on mare's eggs, but only for the sake of shelter.
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04.02.2017 0:31, NZS

Good afternoon, dear forumchane! Tell me, please, what kind of animal? Ukraine, Chernivtsi region, 18.10.2015

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04.02.2017 1:50, Кархарот

It doesn't look much like normal pods, except for the anomalous ones made on an open surface by species that usually form them in the soil. But without looking and (what would be even better) touching the material of which these formations consist, I will not say anything definite. Although there are big doubts in any case. A pitcher is not the strongest formation to settle in, not for the sake of feeding on mare's eggs, but only for the sake of shelter.

Thanks! Can you tell me anything about that?" This is already my collection of another wasp's nest in a finished cavity (100% non-wasp built). Does it look like a pot? The upper photo is as it was in nature (mostly only the entrance to the cavity is visible, most of it is in the ground), the lower one is after removing the entire structure from the ground and opening it (the plug was made from the ground by a wasp).

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04.02.2017 8:28, Dracus

Good afternoon, dear forumchane! Tell me, please, what kind of animal? Ukraine, Chernivtsi region, 18.10.2015


Stethophyma grossum L.
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04.02.2017 23:34, PVOzerski

Thanks! Can you tell me anything about that?"

The form-it looks like the material - is unclear.
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07.02.2017 17:16, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

I have 3 questions.1.Do ruspolia nitidula live in Tsimlyansk?2. Are there any Egyptian fillies in Abkhazia or Russia?3. What is the maximum length of migratory locusts in our country,I met individuals with a wingspan of 15 cm, but could not catch.

07.02.2017 22:04, PVOzerski

1. I haven't been to Tsimlyansk, but there are ruspolias in Adygea and Krasnodar Krai.
2. There are Egyptian fillies in the south of Russia. I found them in the Tuapse district. Therefore, they should also be present in Abkhazia.
3. In the literature ("green" index of insects of the European part of the USSR, 1964), the maximum length of the elytra of L. migratoria is indicated as 61 mm. Multiply by 2, add a small centimeter - it turns out 13 cm.

11.02.2017 3:10, Александрс

And the shape of the head is like that of an Oedipoda.
I catch oedipod larvae from time to time in the Pskov region (hedgehogs will be fine - in the summer they will be very much needed alive). I can't say that offhand, but I don't think they have a very clear step. And there is no one to confuse them in those Pskov regions: tseles are simply unthinkable, pzofuses are very different, rattles have never been found. And as for the dark color-it just happens. In Oedipus, the color of the integument can generally actively adapt to the background. The French also had publications about this, and I observed them when they were kept in captivity.


Thanks! Can't it be Psophus stridulus?

11.02.2017 3:24, Александрс

Here is another instance that haunts the Macroidsmile.gif Israel. Nahariya, 2012-06-22 North Coast, sandy wasteland with characteristic Mediterranean vegetation. Who is it? Thanks!

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11.02.2017 15:51, PVOzerski

I won't say anything about the Israeli beast, but I won't say anything about the Kharkiv one, Psophus is completely different, and this is Oedipoda.
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20.02.2017 20:45, rjkz

Good evening dear forumchane. This summer, a trip to the north of Lake Ladoga(islands) is planned,could you tell us what unusual straight-winged birds can be found there? Thank you in advance.
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21.02.2017 16:50, Александрс

Tell me about the client plz. Kharkiv region, Volchansky district, Malaya Volchya village 010-09-10. Thanks!

21.02.2017 16:50, Александрс

Tell me about the client plz. Kharkiv region, Volchansky district, Malaya Volchya village 010-09-10. Thanks!

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21.02.2017 20:21, PVOzerski

Oedipoda. If the hind wings are blue, then coerulescens.
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21.02.2017 20:25, PVOzerski

Good evening dear forumchane. This summer, a trip to the north of Lake Ladoga(islands) is planned,could you tell us what unusual straight-winged birds can be found there? Thank you in advance.

The most interesting thing that can be is Chorthippus brunneus brevis. An animal with an unclear taxonomic status, a clear candidate for the regional Red List. The rest is something that is rare in the northwestern region, but more or less common in the south. For example, it would be interesting to admire Gomphocerippus rufus - there are photos from the vicinity of Lahdenpohja and that's it. Another good idea is to check whether Phaneroptera falcata and species of the genus Conocephalus have already reached there.

21.02.2017 20:31, Vlad Proklov

The most interesting thing that can be is Chorthippus brunneus brevis. An animal with an unclear taxonomic status, a clear candidate for the regional Red List. The rest is something that is rare in the northwestern region, but more or less common in the south. For example, it would be interesting to admire Gomphocerippus rufus - there are photos from the vicinity of Lahdenpohja and that's it. Another good idea is to check whether Phaneroptera falcata and species of the genus Conocephalus have already reached there.

Do you have G. rufus?!! eek.gif Nifiga itself! Another Southerner is hanging around the Baltic!

21.02.2017 23:16, PVOzerski

Do you have G. rufus?!! eek.gif Nifiga itself! Another Southerner is hanging around the Baltic!

Yes, I saw one photo (someone else's, alas). Well, and in addition, the view was given for the Leningrad region Miram in 1925
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25.02.2017 14:20, кот энтомолог

Hello forum visitors, I really hope to get out to the Crimea in the summer and since I am interested in keeping various invertebrate animals in captivity, I want to find out what relatively large and spectacular animals can be found in this area (most likely not far from the coast). Thank you in advance.

25.02.2017 17:22, IchMan

Do you have G. rufus?!! eek.gif Nifiga itself! Another Southerner is hanging around the Baltic!

Yes, I saw one photo (someone else's, alas). Well, and in addition, the view was given for the Leningrad region to Miram in 1925.


Pasha, I showed you a couple of years ago several photos of G. rufus from different years, taken in 2007-2012 in the vicinity of Kondopoga, including in addition to imago and intensely pink larvae. This population is more sown than the Lahdenpoh population - 6213 'N, 3418' E.
Previously, Albrecht (1979) indicated points only in the Ladoga NW and SE.
So the Baltic coast is not the limit for him at all.

And in the Ladoga region, it would be possible to search for Bryodema, although all this is very unlikely on the islands.

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25.02.2017 18:32, PVOzerski

Exactly, I forgot frown.gifAnd now I even wondered if I had confused Lahdenpohya with Kondopoga-fortunately, it is impossible to forget Lahdenpohya, especially on the eve of February 23 smile.gif

25.02.2017 21:50, ИНО

27.02.2017 1:34, Dracus

Hello forum visitors, I really hope to get out to the Crimea in the summer and since I am interested in keeping various invertebrate animals in captivity, I want to find out what relatively large and spectacular animals can be found in this area (most likely not far from the coast). Thank you in advance.


Dofiga just. There are definitely dybki, Anadrymadusa retowskii is a large and spectacular endemic, Pholidoptera pontica, all sorts of jumps, including quite large ones. Well, and Decticus albifrons, of course.
Only, for the future - it is better to post such questions in the "Life and morals of insects" .

12.03.2017 20:10, Динусик

Good day to all! Did I correctly identify this animal as Acrida bicolor? Photographed in the vicinity of Varna (Bulgaria) on November 5, 2016

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12.03.2017 23:07, Vlad Proklov

Good day to all! Did I correctly identify this animal as Acrida bicolor? Photographed in the vicinity of Varna (Bulgaria) on November 5, 2016

By default, there is Acrida ungarica.

13.03.2017 17:46, Динусик

Thanks!

21.03.2017 3:46, Gans75

Ukraine, Rivne region, September 8.
Chorthippus sp., no more ?
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23.03.2017 21:48, andr_mih

Please help me identify the cricket. Caught in a sink in October, Donetsk. I was surprised by the size, I've never seen such tiny ones before. Unfortunately, there was a small incident with the instance, so I collected everything I could.

Most likely Pteronemobius heydeni (there was one a couple of pages ago), although M. b. is another of this genus.
They are usually short-winged and hide in pebbles, so they are easier to hear than to see.

The upper one is a female Chorthippus dorsatus, the lower one is a female Chorthippus from the"biguttulus" group

The upper female is more like Ch. dichrous than dorsatus.

If I assume that this is Platycleis affinis, will there be any objections?

There will be objections-affinis is always macro-and this one is meso -.

Thanks! Can you tell me anything about that?" This is already my collection of another wasp's nest in a finished cavity (100% non-wasp built). Does it look like a pot? The upper photo is as it was in nature (mostly only the entrance to the cavity is visible, most of it is in the ground), the lower one is after removing the entire structure from the ground and opening it (the plug was made from the ground by a wasp).

Leftovers from prus pods, are in the mass on the warm-up-see in them easier to nest than a new mink to dig. Not the fact that parasitism, rather populated last year.

Here is another instance that haunts the Macroidsmile.gif Israel. Nahariya, 2012-06-22 North Coast, sandy wasteland with characteristic Mediterranean vegetation. Who is it? Thanks!

Most similar to Angaracris, in any case, someone from Bryodemini.

That's right, I forgot frown.gifAnd now I'm even thinking: did I confuse Lahdenpohya with Kondopoga-fortunately, it's impossible to forget Lahdenpohya, especially on the eve of February 23 smile.gif

Rufus is fine, but Tettigonia caudata first reached the Leningrad region, and then flew beyond the Arctic Circle.
Information from molbiol, but mb. You know and write about it already smile.gif
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23.03.2017 22:49, PVOzerski

I haven't seen Kaudata in the Leningrad Region yet (details are interesting), but I won't believe you about the Arctic until they show it. Viridissima in the Pskov region-yes, I came across it once (but I never saw it again for several years), and I also heard about its finds a little further west.

There are some doubts about dichrous in eastern Ukraine. I don't know, though. Color-yes, unusual. But color is not an argument.

As for Platycleis , I'm not sure that the specimen in the photo has its wings spread out to the final length.

And Angracris'u in those parts, from where the photo, does not turn out.

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23.03.2017 23:01, ИНО

24.03.2017 19:11, andr_mih

Good afternoon! Please help me name the fillies and grasshoppers. All photos were taken in the Kursk region, a gully with steppe vegetation.

7-Poecilimon ukrainicus (was known from the Kursk region) but M. b. and P. brunneri, also a western species. It is necessary to look at the male's cerci.

I haven't seen Kaudata in the Leningrad Region yet (details are interesting), but I won't believe you about the Arctic until they show it. Viridissima in the Pskov region-yes, I came across it once (but I never saw it again for several years), and I also heard about its finds a little further west.

Decticus Gatchina 19.08.2011 19: 29 URL #1424:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1236186
Vorona Murmansk 20.12.2013 21: 38 URL #8:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1455657
Please check with the authors of the finds, M. B. they did not take photos quite near the house smile.gif

There are some doubts about dichrous in eastern Ukraine. I don't know, though. Color-yes, unusual. But color is not an argument.

I have sound recordings of this species from the Lipetsk region, so why shouldn't it be there?

As for Platycleis , I'm not sure that the specimen in the photo has its wings spread out to the final length.

Fully straightened. See also covers krl. skins. Small, more likely from the subgenus Tessellana or Montana.

And Angracris'u in those parts, from where the photo, does not turn out.

well, yes, angarakris from Angarida, but not the fact that the animal is not a skidding one. On Blizh.But in general, briodemin should not be. Quite common B. tuberculata of unusual coloring. But I don't insist on Rod.

Thank you. In the photos from the Internet, they are almost black, and my yellow was like a banana. And who else of this kind can we have?

Well, the subspecies concolor in coll. is quite zholtenky, but it is not necessary to pay attention to this: with opr-and straight-winged animals, color is not as important as morphology. See URL #3396-the same cricket. Macropter individuals in normally short-winged species often "do not pass" according to the opr-liu - you need to listen. The second species is gracilis, which is farther south.
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25.03.2017 21:04, PVOzerski

2 andr_mih
About the jump: I agree that the Tessellana vittata variant is plausible, but Montana has longer ovipositors.

O Chorthippus: and how do you distinguish dichrous from dorsatus? However, I will repent: I had nothing to do with dichrous in nature. But here I have not only heard about the quirks of coloring skates, but also seen enough. I regret, for example, that I did not photograph a green female with an admixture of pink and purple Chorthippus macrocerus from the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus.

Well, Tettigonia in the vicinity of Murmansk is still unimaginable for me. Most likely, the photo was taken much further south.

26.03.2017 0:43, ИНО

26.03.2017 16:52, andr_mih

Please tell me whose nymph or adult is this?
Tatarstan, Almetyevsky district, Uratminskaya dacha forest, Yamashka River valley, meadow. May 22, 2016

Adult. Tetrix tenuicornis

Is it possible to identify a jumper?
Tatarstan, Nizhnekamsk district of the village of Tetvel, on the light. July 20, 2016

Thin-whiskered tetrix, female

Georgia, Adjara, Tago village, 27.06.2016

Isophya gracilis or I. schneideri, one of them, but even with a good angle will not be more accurate.

? Myrmeleotettix sp.[i]
Volgograd region, Frolovsky district, Archedinsko-Donskiye peski, 10-11. 09. 2016.

Myrmeleotettix antennatus

2 andr_mih
O Chorthippus: how do you distinguish dichrous from dorsatus? However, I will repent: I had nothing to do with dichrous in nature. But here I have not only heard about the quirks of coloring skates, but also seen enough. I regret, for example, that I did not photograph a green female with an admixture of pink and purple Chorthippus macrocerus from the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus.

Dorsatus has 2 parts in the phrase, and dichrous has the same, but the first one is almost erased. In addition, the dichrous is one and a half times larger and colored more monotonously, just like in the photo, or all yellow-brown. In the south of MO, I came across dorzatus with a dichrous color, but you can still distinguish it even without a song. I haven't seen such beautiful macroceruses yet, but pink apricarii and purple stenobotrus lineatus come across regularly, although rarely.

2 andr_mih
Well, Tettigonia in the vicinity of Murmansk is still unimaginable for me. Most likely, the photo was taken much further south.

Kaudata in Dombay, for example (Moussa Achitara) rises above kantans and viridissima, to the alpika, and this climate is just tundra. Doesn't it bother you in Gatchina any more? Write a "nickname" to the authors of the images to dispel your doubts (or my hopes smile.gif

I would not say that the same color, well, not at all the same. Although, if it doesn't play a role, then yes, it does. But gracilis is also very similar. Of course, I would like to see this Concolor live, but it is difficult to understand something from the photo of the impaled copy on the side after a certain number of years of exposure. But, obviously, it is not fate to determine up to the species, but also for determining up to the genus, thank you, I will know. that is, we have such microswitches.

Gracilis is now like Stenonemobius:
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Common/b...nNameID=1121866
Having copies. in the hands, you can try opr. and more precisely:
http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/school/books/...zshie_1964.djvu

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