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23.03.2009 23:09, Fornax13

Ikh not ponyal eek.gifWho of them without hairs?
You're welcome! smile.gif Did you help at least?
In general, you don't need to thank me, but the one who scanned it wink.gif

This post was edited by Fornax13-23.03.2009 23: 10

23.03.2009 23:11, sapalex

M. brunnipes with hairs, and my nutcracker without them. And I print out books right now at work, since there is an opportunity!

24.03.2009 13:09, sapalex

IMG_1548.jpg - (145.99 k) Dear Andrey Legalov identified as Teretriorhynchites pubescnens. Someone has a picture of this beetle. Thanks!

24.03.2009 13:35, Buzman

If this is real, please tell me something before the view or correct where I made a mistake. Thank you very much in advance!

Photo 1. Pimelia sp.? V. Kazakhstan. Length 18 mm.
Photo 2. Lasiostola sp.? Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 18 mm.
Photo 3. Lasiostola sp.? Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 17 mm.
Photo 4. Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 20 mm.
Photo 5. Pachyscelis sp. Turkmenistan, Kugitang Tau, Davai Dere, 815-950 m. Length 27 mm.
Photo 6. Pachyscelis sp. V. Kazakhstan. Length 25 mm.
Photo 7. Pachyscelis sp. Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 17 mm.
Photo 8. Sternoplax sp. V. Kazakhstan. Length 30 mm.
Photo 9. Sternoplax sp. Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 18 mm.
Photo 10. Adesmia sp. Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 17 mm.
Photo 11. Trigonoscelis sp. Uzbekistan, Beshkent valley, Chimchor. Length 25 mm.
Photo 12. Trigonoscelis sp. Tajikistan, Chalata. Length 25 mm.
Photo 13. Cyphogenia gibba ? V. Kazakhstan. Length 29 mm.
Photo 14. Cyphogenia sp. Same view? Turkmenistan, Kugitang Tau, Davai Dere, 815-950 m. Length 25 mm.
Photo 15. Blaps sp. Tajikistan, Chalata. Length 41 mm.

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24.03.2009 16:55, Mylabris

To Buzman: I sat down to write at least to the end with comparative material on the whole of Central Asia and realized that each photo needs additional angles. If you do not mind, it would be great to see each of the beetles: total bottom, total side, side hind legs, front legs. This is the minimum. Questions may appear later - this is a very difficult diagnostic group.
And more. I would like to know more about the localities... (for example, V. Kazakhstan - where is it?), although I suspect that you don't know more exact localities - you would probably write them.

This post was edited by Mylabris - 03/24/2009 16: 56
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24.03.2009 17:35, akulich-sibiria

Good evening. Help with the gravediggers.
1. sort of like Nicrocephalus investigation investigation
But there's a red spot on his forehead...or is it not on the forehead such a spot?? and so it fits all the signs.
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2. also suitable for all signs, but the main color is not black , but brown..
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3. also very similar, but on the pygidia the hairs are not yellowish, but as on all segments of the abdomen they are black. And there is a black spot on the shoulder epipleures. Also on the sides of the middle breast, the hairs are not so long and thick, rather short. there is a suggestion by N. sepultor/. Tell me
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This post was edited by akulich-sibiria - 03/24/2009 17: 39

24.03.2009 17:42, Fornax13

To sapalex:
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/haplorhynchites.htm

Dear Sergey, can you tell me if there is any definitive literature on Kazakhstan's black heifers? I have a problem with them, too."..
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24.03.2009 17:48, Fornax13

To akulich-sibiria:
The first 2 are very similar in color to NicroPHORus investigatOR smile.gif
And the "spot" is not on the forehead, and not a spot. This is a membranous insert of the platypus. By the way, its form is used in diagnostics umnik.gif
About sepultor-question... As far as I remember, it's not Asian. You can also have your own views. By the way, the network had keys for this genus in the volume of world fauna.

This post was edited by Fornax13-24.03.2009 17: 52

24.03.2009 19:08, Mylabris

To sapalex:
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/haplorhynchites.htm

Dear Sergey, can you tell me if there is any definitive literature on Kazakhstan's black heifers? I have a problem with them, too."..

Is that a question for me?

24.03.2009 19:22, Fornax13

Yes.

25.03.2009 6:17, Mylabris

So far, there is not a single determinant for Kazakhstan (which I am working on). Determined by green + Mongolian + Turkmen. There are also 2 reports of Skopin on the South and South Kazakhstan-then there are only lists without tables.
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25.03.2009 9:13, Cerambyx

to Akulich: Judging by the fact that the black spot of the epiplevr does not reach edge 3, it is Nicrophorus mongolicus Shchegoleva-Barovskaya, 1933.1
, 2-N. investigator.
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25.03.2009 11:29, Cerambyx

Just now I realized: 3-most likely argutor. Look at the table of Nikolaev and Kozminykh.

This post was edited by Cerambyx - 03/25/2009 11: 29

25.03.2009 11:55, Buzman

To Mylabris: I will be very grateful for your help and will try to make all the necessary angles. And as for localities , you are absolutely right, there really are no more precise instructions.

This post was edited by Buzman - 25.03.2009 14: 16

25.03.2009 13:18, akulich-sibiria

To akulich-sibiria:
The first 2 are very similar in color to NicroPHORus investigatOR smile.gif
And the "spot" is not on the forehead, and not a spot. This is a membranous insert of the platypus. By the way, its form is used in diagnostics umnik.gif
About sepultor-question... As far as I remember, it's not Asian. You can also have your own views. By the way, the network had keys for this genus in the volume of world fauna.



I'm terribly sorry for such terrible Latin with an English accent!!! confused.gif When I read it myself, I realized in horror what I had written.
Thank you, but don't tell me a link to these keys, if possible. smile.gif

25.03.2009 13:30, Buzman

I also found somewhere, either here or on the Zinovsky site, a scanned identifier of the dead eaters of the fauna of the USSR...

25.03.2009 17:09, Fornax13

Anything is possible smile.gif
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/coleoptera/rus/nikkoz02.htm
and
http://collections2.eeb.uconn.edu/nicroweb/nicrokeytext.htm
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25.03.2009 17:44, akulich-sibiria

Nikolaev I have, I also downloaded it somehow, but I don't see long yellow hairs on the back of the chest and epimers in this instance.I just clarified this, but at least the sign is relative..I may be mistaken

25.03.2009 17:58, Cerambyx

Yes, it's a muddy story. In general, it seems to be either argutor or mongolicus. Let's see what V. O. Kozminykh has to saysmile.gif

25.03.2009 18:07, akulich-sibiria

Good evening. There's still some material from the north. Northern taiga, on the parallel with Igarka, Krasnoyasrky Krai. Caught near the water.
1.2picture: P9120135_.jpg
. this is probably Asaphidion..??
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4.5picture: P9130143_.jpg
. it can not be Agonum thoreyi pubescence comes from the 3rd segment, and the first segment of the antennae is reddish
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25.03.2009 18:12, akulich-sibiria

Yes, it's a muddy story. In general, it seems to be either argutor or mongolicus. Let's see what V. O. Kozminykh has to saysmile.gif


Christmas trees matalki, and really on signs similar to argutor chertyaga tongue.gif
Thanks!!

25.03.2009 18:45, Fornax13

2 - Asaphidion, of course. Whatever... Not pallipes by accident?
3, 4 - Pelophila borealis probably.
5-Yes, from this pile - Agonum (Europhilus) of some kind.
The staff is cute, from Omaliinae, but it is necessary to look at it.
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25.03.2009 18:57, akulich-sibiria

2 - Asaphidion, of course. Whatever... Not pallipes by accident?
3, 4 - Pelophila borealis probably.
5-Yes, from this pile - Agonum (Europhilus) of some kind.
The staff is cute, from Omaliinae, but it is necessary to look at it.


Oh, this is such a staff..Well, then I'll put it aside, these animals are generally alien to me smile.gif
Pelophila, I didn't hear anything like that...and what is typical for them?? I'll check it out tomorrow..
Well, on agonum I still go to this view, maybe there will be more experts, so they will correct it smile.gif
For asafidion, I really have no qualifiers, as well as for his "colleague" bembidion, as everything is so complicated there smile.gif
Thanks!!

25.03.2009 19:06, Fornax13

You're welcome! smile.gif
Take care of your staff - it will come in handy smile.gifand omaliins are not the most difficult group to define.
Pelophila borealis - almost a holarct. A genus close to nebryas. And in green, and in DV there is.

25.03.2009 19:41, akulich-sibiria

by the way, thoughts about the fact that something similar to nebriyami I ran somewhere deep, somewhere very deep)))..I'll find out the truth tomorrow. wait with new photos if anything!!)))

28.03.2009 8:44, akulich-sibiria

Good afternoon. not a very good photo, but maybe tell me. It seems that everything is simple
1.Geotrupes stercorarius. on the hind legs there are 3 solid transverse ridges. On the abdomen, the hairs are evenly spaced.
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2. G. stercorosus 2 whole combs. The grooves on the elytra are weak. The first prong on the front legs is not forked.
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3. I can't go to work. Khakassia. 6.5 mm.
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4. something like from the Melandryidae
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As for the past ground beetles, Alexey, you were right!! this is exactly Pelophila borealis, and for agonum I decided on A. (Europhlus) fuliginisum

28.03.2009 10:18, Dmitry Vlasov

2 akulich-sibiria the shadow-eater is similar to Xylita laevigata, more precisely it can say Fornax13...
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28.03.2009 10:33, Bad Den

2 akulich-sibiria:
№2 I would also like G. stercorosus to write
#3 - Bembidion
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28.03.2009 12:06, akulich-sibiria

2 akulich-sibiria the shadow-eater is similar to Xylita laevigata, more precisely it can say Fornax13...


I was also leaning towards it..Thank you.

28.03.2009 12:08, akulich-sibiria

2 akulich-sibiria:
№2 I would also like G. stercorosus to write
#3 - Bembidion


it also seemed to me that this is a Bembidion, besides the last segments of the palps of the characteristic shape and velechiny.I just came across no more than 4 mm.I couldn't find the bristles on his jaws, either . Thank You

28.03.2009 15:07, akulich-sibiria

Help with leaf beetles.
1. Chrysolina gramminis gramminis The
rollers are poorly developed. It is difficult to understand whether there are stripes on the elytra or not..It can be seen that the suture is darker and on the disc of the elytra. (then maybe Ch. gramminis auraria)
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2.Ch. gramminis artimisice. Coarser and more wrinkled punctuation on the elytra. The ridges on the pronotum are less pronounced.
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28.03.2009 15:23, Fornax13

1-I think - this is what was called Geotrupes baicalicus. I don't know what the status is right now.
3 - Bembidion (?Asioperyphus)
4-I would also say that Xylita laevigata.

1 - and the first one is generally graminis? rolleyes.gif

This post was edited by Fornax13-03/28/2009 15: 28

28.03.2009 16:28, akulich-sibiria

confused.gif Here is a question on 1 bug...I don't even know if I looked at Zina's website...I'd like the keys to them. There is also baicalicus...now it's hard to say.I will search for information on them. do we have G. stercorarius in Siberia??
by leaf eater..Well, I have no other options. If only Chrysolina cerealis.but this one generally has bright stripes..
on the site of Zina gramminis with some really bright stripes on the disk. I used Medvedev to identify Siberian leaf beetles. but there are no pictures there.

28.03.2009 17:15, Fornax13

Well, we have baicalicus, but G. stercorarius doesn't seem to live anymore.
Ahh, well then maybe... But the sculpture is too thin for graminis.

28.03.2009 20:57, Bad Den

2 akulich-sibiria, here somewhere posted an article with keys for Geotrupes....

28.03.2009 21:07, akulich-sibiria

2 akulich-sibiria, here somewhere posted an article with keys for Geotrupes....

I found an article by Nikolayev, probably you had it in mind??

28.03.2009 21:17, akulich-sibiria

of course, a terrible quality can, but still, tell me at least to the end, what would be from what to dance smile.gif
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7. caught in the north
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28.03.2009 22:23, Fornax13

1 - Bolitobius or Ischnosoma. It seems so now.
2-Oxyporus like maxillosus
3-Oxyporus is also some kind
of 4-pronotum and head can be larger. It looks pretty, maybe even Quedius is like that.
5-Ontholestes
6-Anotylus
7-Possibly Lordithon, but not rolleyes.gifreally
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29.03.2009 1:13, sapalex

Gentlemen, did I correctly identify this beetle as Mycetophagus quadripustulatus? Thank you in advance!!!

Pictures:
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29.03.2009 1:22, Fornax13

Yes. He, my dear.
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