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23.04.2007 22:52, vilgeforce

I also caught them just yesterday, also, by the way, on dandelion flowers. At first, like vilgeforce, I sinned on glitter, but at home I brought the definition to Olibrus. I wonder by what determinant they can be brought to the form - in "green", as far as I understand, the table for them is not complete.


Maybe you should watch Reitter. But I haven't heard about at least partial translations of it, and I can't pull it myself, after all :- (And so it's lying around on the web, if someone translates - I solemnly promise to compare the result in PDF: -)
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24.04.2007 1:05, verser

Gentlemen, And who will share information about the Common Sage parasite? It looks exotic: oval body, 3-4 mm, all covered with fluff (but this, I suspect, is from the sage itself), hides in the leaf axils (between the stem and the leaf), on one side a bunch of active legs (such a thickening that they also exist around the perimeter of the body), color-brownish, a little like a shield, but longer, without a "shell" and very fast (but only if it is "strained"), and so "sleepy" some.

24.04.2007 8:10, KDG

Gentlemen, And who will share information about the Common Sage parasite? It looks exotic: oval body, 3-4 mm, all covered with fluff (but this, I suspect, is from the sage itself), hides in the leaf axils (between the stem and the leaf), on one side a bunch of active legs (such a thickening that they also exist around the perimeter of the body), color-brownish, a little like the shield is longer, without a "shell" and very fast (but only if it is "strained"), and so "sleepy" some.

some kind of worm..

24.04.2007 14:01, Mylabris

I also caught them just yesterday, also, by the way, on dandelion flowers. At first, like vilgeforce, I sinned on glitter, but at home I brought the definition to Olibrus. I wonder by what determinant they can be brought to the form - in "green", as far as I understand, the table for them is not complete.

I saw a monograph from the Fauna D'ITALIANA series on this family - they were pretty well "torn apart" there - great illustrations, starting from the habitus, ending with the genitals. Probably 200 pages.
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24.04.2007 17:53, RippeR

This is love! (once 2 years you can't forget) smile.gif

24.04.2007 18:46, Nilson

Menecleonus anxius (Gyllenhal, 1834)

Thanks! Can you tell me, KDG, if the range of this species is limited to Armenia and Turkmenistan? Something the Internet is silent on this topic.

24.04.2007 18:57, omar

It seems that a specialist on abscesses is ready.....

24.04.2007 21:01, verser

some kind of worm..


I don't think this is an intermediate stage... with an oval body, I went a little too far - the body is rather diamond-shaped, but with smoothed "corners" smile.gifsomething like a woodlouse... but it's definitely imago.

24.04.2007 23:16, Bad Den

I don't think this is an intermediate stage... with an oval body, I went a little too far - the body is rather diamond-shaped, but with smoothed "corners" smile.gifsomething like a woodlouse... but it's definitely an imago.

Chervets - this is not a "worm", so called representatives of the family Pseudococcidae from the order Proboscis (Homoptera)

25.04.2007 12:13, KDG

Thanks! Can you tell me, KDG, if the range of this species is limited to Armenia and Turkmenistan? Something the Internet is silent on this topic.

Described from Iran, Transcaucasia,
and Kazakhstan. Iran. It is indicated on beetroot in Iran. It is more widely
distributed in the Middle East and Western Asia. Data from Ter-Minasyan, 1988.
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25.04.2007 16:57, Nimrod

Hello, gentlemen!
11.jpg " It looks like Miltotrogus aequinoctialis(Herbst.), Mr. RippeR. I can't say more definitely - it wasn't quite a good shot.
Sincerely,....
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26.04.2007 0:39, Musson max

And again Ismile.gif
I apologize for creating problems and causing disagreements among the participants with my shirt shuffle.gif
More beetles. I designed them on 12.04.2007 in the Kiev region, Obukhov district, near the village of Kazin. They were in last year's leaves under a fallen and long-lying, decent oak branch. All this happened in a young oak plantation. Help, who can mol.gifdo what , who is it?
Left - male, right-female.

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picture: P4250155.JPG
P4250155.JPG — (133.59к)

26.04.2007 1:56, verser

Chervets - this is not a "worm", so called representatives of the family Pseudococcidae from the order Proboscis (Homoptera)


Yes, it's definitely him! Thank you so much. I suspected it wasn't just a worm. wink.gif I found the closest possible image http://www.ento.csiro.au/aicn/system/c_1820.htm
In general, I never cease to be surprised by this forum and its participants: with almost a few lines of non-professional description, you are able to determine the "bug"you are looking for with high accuracy. It is wonderful.
This worm, by the way, is also an interesting one: as far as I understand, my test subjects are very likely to turn out to be quite flying individuals... Unfortunately, I did not find a species that parasitizes directly on sage.

26.04.2007 6:25, Bad Den

2 Musson_max is a barbel of Pyrrhidium sanguineum (Linnaeus, 1758), I think. But I'm not sure. (KDG can tell you exactly wink.gif)
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26.04.2007 8:16, omar

That yes. KDG on barbels can do almost anything. yes.gif

26.04.2007 8:23, KDG

2 Musson_max is a barbel of Pyrrhidium sanguineum (Linnaeus, 1758), I think. But I'm not sure. (KDG can tell you exactly wink.gif)

You're doing pretty well yourself smile.gif
pyrridium is.
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27.04.2007 0:20, BO.

Help me determine: bronzerka is similar to (Epicometis hirta) but less than once. 1cm . Astrakhan region.

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picture: P1200076.jpg
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27.04.2007 0:23, BO.

What kind of weevil?

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27.04.2007 8:32, Amigo

I often see such beetles in our forests-Bashkiria, Southern Urals. I looked through a couple of qualifiers, but I didn't find anything similar.
I give an external link, if necessary, I will place it locally.
Beetles are photogenic, if they see a danger, like a photographer, they do not run away, but freeze smile.gif
http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=2056728

This post was edited by Amigo - 04/27/2007 09: 28

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27.04.2007 8:55, omar

Carabus convexus, probably

27.04.2007 9:18, omar

Sorry, VO, you are a great photographer, is it really difficult to post several photos of an elephant from different positions?

27.04.2007 9:33, rpanin

Carabus convexus, probably


And in my opinion banal glabratus . Although it is difficult to say reliably without knowing the size of the beetle.

27.04.2007 9:35, Amigo

Carabus convexus, probably

Similar, judging by this picture here Carabus (Tomocarabus) convexus
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/eng/carconkg.htm
Thank you.

27.04.2007 9:40, omar

Amigo, check out the image of glabratus too. You can do it right here on the forum. And as already mentioned, size matters.

27.04.2007 10:00, Amigo

And in my opinion banal glabratus . Although it is difficult to say reliably without knowing the size of the beetle.

The size of these beetles is 2.5-3 centimeters, they have a very elegant shell near the head, here you can see better, also my photo:
http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1921729
More like a Carabus convexus imho.

Pictures:
picture: juk2.jpg
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27.04.2007 10:03, Bad Den

I'm leaning more towards C. glabratus. In C. convexus, the posterior corners of the pronotum are drawn back, which does not seem to be noticeable in the photo. Well, the size, again.

27.04.2007 10:03, omar

Amigo, after all, probably glabratus, rpanin is right. I looked at the enlarged image of your beetle again. It is also a pity that the back of the elytra, which defines the shape of the beetle, is not available for viewing.

27.04.2007 10:06, omar

Convexus small, no more than 20 mm.

27.04.2007 10:19, Amigo

The convexus is small, no more than 20 mm.

Judging by this image of Glabatus, this is not it.
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/sphaer2.htm
my beetles do not look like buttons, they are elongated and with a pronounced pinch between the parts of the shell. Under three centimeters will definitely be, maybe we have mutants? smile.gif

27.04.2007 10:21, omar

Carabus glabratus lol.gif
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27.04.2007 10:32, rpanin

lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif There are no words!

27.04.2007 10:36, rpanin

And in my opinion banal glabratus . Although it is difficult to say reliably without knowing the size of the beetle.


Sorry, my mistake . I didn't write the full name. mol.gif

27.04.2007 10:37, Bad Den

Amigo, you were looking at the wrong bug smile.gif
Carabus glabratus here:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/carab161.htm
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27.04.2007 10:47, rpanin

[quote=Amigo,27.04.2007 11:30]

27.04.2007 10:59, omar

I agree, it's probably just 2 different beetles. But Carabus convexus, once again, does not grow more than 2 cm. And it's a pity that you can't see the general outline of the beetle's body.

This post was edited by omar - 04/27/2007 11: 02
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27.04.2007 11:34, Amigo

Amigo, you were looking at the wrong bug smile.gif
Carabus glabratus here:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/carab161.htm


This one is similar!

I agree, it's probably just 2 different beetles. But Carabus convexus, once again, does not grow more than 2 cm. And it's a pity that you can't see the general outline of the beetle's body.

I attach one photo of a summer beetle, against the background of pine needles, as well as spring photos, where a similar beetle walked in the snow.

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picture: DSC08235.jpg
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27.04.2007 11:46, rpanin

Without a doubt - this is glabratus! This time I'll say that it's definitely him!
Take a look at this topic for comparison.
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=160328

This post was edited by rpanin - 04/27/2007 11: 50
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27.04.2007 12:57, Aleksandr Safronov

Yes, glabratus is definitely (Carabus (Oreocarabus) glabratus Payk.), you can no longer discuss these photos. By the way, IMHO this can be seen in the first picture. yes.gif

This post was edited by Entalex - 04/27/2007 13: 23

27.04.2007 13:40, KDG

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27.04.2007 13:54, Nimrod

P1200075 and P1200076 - most likely Epicometis (s. str) hirta(Poda), Mr. VO., and female.
Quite an interesting specimen: very strongly developed and isolated spots on the ribs, and those pairs that are located near the seam are approximately the same size. I personally have not yet observed such a form. It would be interesting to look at the sculpture of the elytra, the ribs and the arrangement of hairs on them. In addition, the shape and size of the longitudinal rib (on the pronotum) is also not similar to that of hirta.

Conclusion.
1. If you get any specimens, especially males, you should catch every single one of them.
2. Kill with ethyl acetate in a stain filled with sawdust. They are necessary so that the hairs do not stick together, as well as to remove excess moisture from the insect.
3. Do not mount beetles.


If it's not too hard for you to do this, Mr. WAUGH, please catch the series, okay?
Sincerely,....

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