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18.11.2020 23:51, sh1981

Good evening.
Can you tell me if this is Heliothis peltigera or Helicoverpa armigera?
September 2020. Kyiv.

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19.11.2020 8:09, svm2

Helicoverpa armigera

19.11.2020 13:22, sh1981

Helicoverpa armigera

Thank you for your help in determining the type. Tell me, please, still on what sign it is possible to distinguish Helicoverpa armigera from Heliothis peltigera.

19.11.2020 13:24, svm2

Thank you, Vasily! You're right, as always.
But these Horisme can be identified?

1. Horisme tersata? Span kr. 26mm.
Krasnoyarsk, city limits, to the light. 20.06.19.

2. Horisme sp. Span kr.
28mm. Near Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 5.08.20.


Well, the first female in my opinion is definitely tersata,
with a male slzhnee, it's good that there you have few representatives of the genus, I think that too tersata or scotosiata, which is less likely
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19.11.2020 14:02, gokenin

Who is pliz, Kaluzhskaya, August. Thanks

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19.11.2020 14:11, svm2

Thank you for your help in determining the type. Tell me, please, still on what sign it is possible to distinguish Helicoverpa armigera from Heliothis peltigera.

For example, in one kidney-shaped spot with a dark smear is connected to the costal edge, and in the other there is no

19.11.2020 14:12, sh1981

Who is pliz, Kaluzhskaya, August. Thanks

Most likely Epirrita sp.
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19.11.2020 14:14, sh1981

For example, in one kidney-shaped spot with a dark smear is connected to the costal edge, and in the other it is not

Thank you very much.

19.11.2020 17:06, MIV

Well, the first female in my opinion is definitely tersata,
with a male slzhnee, well, that there you have few representatives of the genus, I think that too tersata or scotosiata, which is less likely


Here I found an image of Legisme scotosiata in the work of Makhov and Belyaev on the Baikal region. I think it's still her in photo 2.

picture: Horisme_scotosiata.jpg
picture: Horisme_sp..jpg

19.11.2020 17:18, svm2

Well, according to this image, yes. We do not have this species, and it is difficult to judge from the image on bold
, but in general there are more species in Europe that are sometimes trdno distinguishable

The post was edited by svm2 - 19.11.2020 17: 20
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19.11.2020 18:39, MIV

Please look with an experienced eye. Did you identify it correctly?

1. ? Scopula caricaria. Span of 17mm-Okr. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 31.08.20.
It is strange that it is not in the Blue catalog and for 2008 and 2019.
picture: 1._Scopula_caricaria.jpg

2. ? Scopula virgulata. Span of 20 mm - Khakassia, Shirinsky district, forest-steppe. 16.07.19.
picture: 2._Scopula_virgulata.jpg

19.11.2020 18:56, svm2

Virgulata without questions
Caricaria do not know yet, we have them completely different. In the catalog there is one called-virginalis

The post was edited by svm2 - 20.11.2020 03: 05
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20.11.2020 3:12, svm2

It looks like
caricaria, but I must say that our caricaria is quite different-larger and shiny white(see lepiforum). Yours and Knyazeva are different, just like some kind of "virginalis", maybe your luminaries consider it a different species, and not a synonym

The post was edited by svm2 - 20.11.2020 08: 06
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20.11.2020 14:17, Vovan48

Please help me with the definition.Is this all Euchalcia renardi or is there some other species? Caught 07.2019 Altai village Aktash.

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20.11.2020 14:48, sh1981

Good afternoon.
Tell me, please, the type of this scoop.
August 2020. Kyiv.

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20.11.2020 18:06, AGG

Good afternoon.
Tell me, please, the type of this scoop.
August 2020. Kyiv.

Anarta trifolii

20.11.2020 19:07, sh1981

Anarta trifolii

Thank you very much.

21.11.2020 4:59, vidjl

Please help me with the definition.Is this all Euchalcia renardi or is there some other species? Caught 07.2019 Altai village Aktash.

For the presence of E. altaica can only be reliably checked by cooking, visually I do not know how.
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21.11.2020 20:48, PhilGri

Please help me with the definition.
Lishnyagi, MO
user posted image

This post was edited by PhilGri - 21.11.2020 20: 49

21.11.2020 21:43, Vlad Proklov

Please help me with the definition.
Lishnyagi, MO

?Athetis lepigone
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21.11.2020 21:58, MIV

Please help me deal with Caradrina'mi. All from ocd. Krasnoyarsk.

1. The wingspan is 27mm-3.09.20.
picture: 1._Caradrina_27________._________________.___________._________._3.09.20._leg._________.jpg

2. The wingspan is 27mm-3.09.20.
picture: 2._Caradrina_27________._________________.___________._________._3.09.20._leg._________..jpg

3. Span of cr. 25mm-18.08.20.
picture: 3._Caradrina_25______________________________________._18.08.20._leg._________.jpg

4. The wingspan is 26mm - 29.07.20.
picture: 4._Caradrina_26______________________________________._29.07.20._leg._________.jpg

5. Span of cr. 26mm-14.07.20.

21.11.2020 23:38, PhilGri

Isn't athetis gluteosa an accident? There's still a little pattern on the PC guessed.

?Athetis lepigone


This post was edited by PhilGri - 11/21/2020 23: 39

21.11.2020 23:38, sh1981

Good evening.
Tell me, please, the type of this scoop.
August 2020. Kyiv.

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22.11.2020 1:59, vidjl

Isn't athetis gluteosa an accident? There's still a little pattern on the PC guessed.

Yet Athetis lepigone
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22.11.2020 7:27, svm2

Still Athetis lepigone

Why not a female pallustris?

22.11.2020 9:04, svm2

Here is an example of a male and a female. It's bad that sometimes they forget about the date
picture: IMG_6789_1.jpg
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22.11.2020 12:17, Alexandr Zhakov

Good evening.
Tell me, please, the type of this scoop.
August 2020. Kyiv.

Winter scoop
Agrotis segetum.

22.11.2020 17:28, vidjl

Why not a female pallustris?

smile.gif Honestly, Vasily, I looked and looked at the female A. pallustris, and so, and so, well, most suitable, then I think .. and, probably still let it be A. lepigone. Thank you for confirming my doubts. smile.gif You have a good photo of the couple, and you can clearly see the drawing of the female.

This post was edited by vidjl - 22.11.2020 17: 31
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22.11.2020 17:46, sh1981

Winter scoop
Agrotis segetum.

Thank you very much.

22.11.2020 19:09, sh1981

Please help me deal with Caradrina'mi. All from ocd. Krasnoyarsk.

1. The wingspan is 27mm-3.09.20.
picture: 1._Caradrina_27________._________________.___________._________._3.09.20._leg._________.jpg

2. The wingspan is 27mm-3.09.20.
picture: 2._Caradrina_27________._________________.___________._________._3.09.20._leg._________..jpg

3. Span of cr. 25mm-18.08.20.
picture: 3._Caradrina_25______________________________________._18.08.20._leg._________.jpg

4. The wingspan is 26mm - 29.07.20.
picture: 4._Caradrina_26______________________________________._29.07.20._leg._________.jpg

5. Wingspan of cr. 26mm - 14.07.20.
picture: 5._Caradrina_26_______________________________________._14.07.20._leg._________.jpg

1 - Caradrina selini
2 - most likely Caradrina albina
5 - Caradrina petraea
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22.11.2020 21:38, Vlad Proklov

  smile.gif Honestly, Vasily, I looked and looked at the female A. pallustris, and so, and so, well, most suitable, then I think .. and, probably still let it be A. lepigone. Thank you for confirming my doubts. smile.gif You have a good photo of the couple, and you can clearly see the drawing of the female.

The same feelings, plus what can pallustris do on the black soil there?!!
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22.11.2020 22:37, vidjl

Please help me deal with Caradrina'mi. All from ocd. Krasnoyarsk.

1 - Maybe C. wullschlegeli, a new one would be for the region, there is already one everywhere around.
2 – C. albina
3 и 4 - C. clavipalpis
5 – C. petraea
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22.11.2020 22:58, Vlad Proklov



1 - what was defined as flavirena before the Hacker's revision.

22.11.2020 23:54, vidjl

1 - what was defined as flavirena before the Hacker's revision.

Yes, like C. flarivena, aka C. flavivena and C. wullschlegeli are separate species, and they differ well from each other.
Here's a link to lepiforum:
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Caradrina_Wullschlegeli

The post was edited by vidjl - 23.11.2020 00: 23
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23.11.2020 18:44, MIV

1 - Maybe C. wullschlegeli, a new one would be for the region, there is already one everywhere around.


An ambush with these Caradrina's wall.gif. Without potroshilov, you probably can't figure weep.gifit out .
C. morosa may well have flown in from Altai. Here is another incomprehensible message from the Shirinsky district of Khakassia.
picture: 6._Caradrina_sp._________________________.___._____________._31.07.02._leg.__._______..jpg

23.11.2020 19:15, Bianor

Can you tell me what kind of animals? I am restoring a collection from the village of Karabulak, Taldykorgan region, these two are in the same box, but without labels. Can they be from Kazakhstan? Thank you in advance!

This post was edited by Bianor - 25.11.2020 19: 44

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23.11.2020 19:16, vidjl

An ambush with these Caradrina's wall.gif. Without potroshilov, you probably can't figure weep.gifit out .
C. morosa may well have flown in from Altai. Here is another incomprehensible message from the Shirinsky district of Khakassia.

Caradrina wullschlegeli, there's no doubt about it at all.
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23.11.2020 20:56, sh1981

Good evening.
Tell me, please, the type of this palcefly.
September 2020. Kyiv.

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26.11.2020 16:16, sh1981

Good afternoon.
Tell me, please, the type of this leaf wrapper.
August 2020. Kyiv.

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28.11.2020 19:20, MIV

I don't hope for a definition before the species, but if possible, please help me sort out this little thing in the corresponding higher-order taxa.
All from ocd. Krasnoyarsk.

1. Span kr. 12 mm - in the city, in the light. 6.07.20.
picture: 1._12_______________________________________._6.07.20._leg._________.jpg

2. 12mm - in the city, on the light. 23.08.20.
picture: 2._12_______________________________________._23.08.20._leg._________.jpg

3. 14mm - forest steppe. 18.07.20.
picture: 3._14________._____.____._______________.__________________._18.07.20.__leg._________.jpg

4. 18mm - forest steppe. 13.06.20.
picture: 4._18________._____.____._______________.__________________._13.06.20.__leg._________.jpg

5. 19mm - in the city, on the light. 6.07.20
picture: 5._19_______________________________________._6.07.20._leg._________.jpg

6. 20mm - forest steppe. 25.05.20
picture: 6._20________._____.____._______________.__________________._25.05.20.__leg._________.jpg

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