Russian name Hemiptera

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Mistes, 09.01.2013 11:31

I apologize to the experienced forumchan-I'm a botanist, not an entomologist. However, recently I came across a discrepancy in entomological nomenclature, which turned out to be incomprehensible to me.
For bedbugs, cicadas, etc., the Latin name of the order Hemiptera is accepted. It has always been translated as "Hemiptera" or even "Bedbugs" (which is hardly justified), in particular, in the six-volume "Animal Life" and other publications that can hardly be considered unscientific. However, in the Russian version of this name here (Wikipedia: Hemiptera), in the discussion of the page, the name "Arthropodobotes", unknown to me, was indicated. And in rather harsh terms, with the statement that the page should be completely rewritten. I must say right away that I didn't create it on Wikipedia. However, for scientific work, I need to use the correct, valid name of the squad. Tell me, please, how, after all, it will be competent to designate it!

This post was edited by Dracus - 28.01.2013 14: 40

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09.01.2013 12:27, Лавр Большаков

Dear Mistes, Wikipedia is not a source of reliable scientific knowledge about insects. There often write articles of individuals who have not been realized on the scientific front. I am not an expert on proboscids, but once I arrived in time, and even more recently, I also encountered a similar problem when writing the Introduction to the Kr. book section, I will try to explain.
For the designation of the order hemiptera (=bugs), the name Heteroptera is now usually used. And the cicadas (as well as aphids, leafhoppers, coccids (=worms and scabies) usually belong to the order Homoptera. There are points of view that all this is one large order of proboscids, for which the name Hemiptera s.l. (i.e. in a broad sense) is accepted. But the same name in a narrow sense (Hemiptera s.str.) was previously applied to bedbugs. Hence some confusion. I do not know about the name "Arthropods". If necessary, I use the names "Hemiptera (Heteroptera)" and " Equidistant wings (Homoptera)" like squads. According to this logic, the name Hemiptera s. l. should already be attributed to the superorder proboscis.
Maybe experts on them will come in time to correct something.

09.01.2013 13:15, Mistes

Thank you. I came to about the same conclusion. Calling the entire order Hemiptera bedbugs, of course, is already incorrect, since the suborder Heteroptera is indicated everywhere on foreign sites...
I don't think Wikipedia is a scientific source by any means, but sometimes I check with it for generally accepted names when I'm too lazy to get definitions, etc. It's just that this time it was precisely what caught my eye was such a strange discrepancy.
As for Equidoptera, unfortunately, this taxon is considered obsolete on foreign systematic sites due to the opinion that it is paraphyletic... However, thank you for your help. If you have a dis. If you have any questions about this, at least I'll know what to say.

09.01.2013 19:58, Лавр Большаков

I think "Hemiptera" would be best.

If all this is considered as one order (which is far from generally accepted and debatable, since I have found a number of modern scientific journals, and everywhere I see only the epithets Heteroptera and Homoptera, but not Hemiptera), then this is incorrect, since hemiptera=bedbugs is quite unambiguous. In Russian literature, but not very new, the name "proboscis"was found in relation to this group. And the fact that they are " segmented..."- some kind of neoplasm, probably in order to distinguish them from the proboscis in the class of mleks. But as you know, homonymy does not apply to Russian and national names in general, so it is better to use the traditional epithet "proboscis" or, if possible, to say about more specific groups.

09.01.2013 20:45, Dmitrii Musolin

Not the easiest question... Oddly enough, there is a difference in domestic and foreign reports.

In domestic media, they have recently been writing more often:
order Heteroptera - Hemiptera, or beetles (for example, Vinokurov NN, etc. Catalog.... 2010)

In foreign countries:
suborder Heteroptera of the order Hemiptera (Catalog of the Heteroptera of the Palaearctic Region, 1995; Henry, 2009).

I usually write simply "Heteroptera" or "Hemiptera: Heteroptera". Or, if necessary, with the Russian name: "Hemiptera, or bedbugs (Heteroptera)". If YOU NEED to specify the status, then: "suborder Hemiptera, or bedbugs (Hemiptera: Heteroptera)".

If you really need a Wiki, then you need to look in English. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiptera

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