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Дзанат, 20.08.2005 13:36

Need some advice for buying a binocular. confused.gif

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21.08.2005 23:10, yegor

Some super special one? Consider thrips? eek.gif
Otherwise, this topic is not on the topic of the forum.
Except for the classic Zeiss models (e.g. Stemi 2000), I like Wild (Switzerland)
- good aperture and LARGE ZOOM up to 900x.

22.08.2005 7:15, Guest

Exactly-paws, antennae, etc
. And how are they better than the usual school? rolleyes.gif

22.08.2005 13:12, Tigran Oganesov

If you really do not need to consider VERY small objects, then the domestic MBS-1 is quite enough. I, for example, have enough of it. Who do you want to consider?

15.09.2005 14:22, Diogen

I use MBS-9. Good optics, normal illumination. Yes, and if a little imagination and a couple of liters of vodka to our kulibin - then a digital camera is easy to adapt to it.

15.09.2005 15:00, Diogen

Peter, I think... In Moscow, you can buy MBS-10, but it costs 15-16 thousand. I bought it with my own hands smile.gif.

15.09.2005 20:09, Насекомовед

The manufacturer of MBS microscopes is Lytkarinsky Optical Glass Plant (LZOS). Direct link to MBS-10 and MBS-12 zoom: http://www.lzos.ru/microscope.htm

Their website has an online product order: http://www.lzos.ru/mailform.htm
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22.02.2006 10:34, Aleksandr Ermakov

The main thing is not to take the MS-2. I don't want to say anything bad about optics, but the illuminator is some kind of hyperboloid of engineer Garin. dries and burns a wet object in 2-3 minutes :0

22.02.2006 11:37, Dmitry Vlasov

Not a bad MBS-1, usually such students work as biologists.(if there is no MBS-9)
The increase will be enough for bark beetles, even more will remain. I, for example, identify bark beetles on the "deuce", with a 12X eyepiece. Grabs by the eyes and ears.
And MBS-10 is both expensive and huge, you'll be tortured to carry... and it takes up half the table at once.
And you can buy naavernoe with your hands, however, this one may turn out to be damaged with cloudy prisms, or even worse with a downed alignment.
Dzanat, and you are a bark beetle pro, or a beginner. The interest is personal, I do them myself.

25.02.2006 8:35, Proctos

not so long ago, the Lytkarinsky plant produced the MBS-12 with zoom
http://www.lzos.ru/mbs_12.htm price 23k. Does anyone have it? How's the device working?

25.02.2006 14:42, гость: Дзанат

I bought MBS-10, I'm not complaining, the floor of the table is not occupied! I bought it at the Lytkarinsky plant, order online, very convenient. Inconvenience only with the lamp, which is poorly twisted and all the time somewhere "jumps" in the wrong place. I would have bought an MBS-12, but it is more expensive, everything rested on money. frown.gif
I've been working on bark beetles since the institute, there are no articles, I started working on them purposefully half a year ago. Lists by region, now I'm compiling keys for the determinant and the lists need to be completed.Elizar
Are you in the Yaroslavl region? Something flashed, I made this conclusion. smile.gif

25.02.2006 17:00, Dmitry Vlasov

To Dzanat.
Wrote in PM...

05.07.2006 0:03, RippeR

Someone, tell me which of the cheapest ones are the best and what their magnification is. I can't afford an expensive microscope, but I've always wanted to buy one..

12.12.2007 19:28, xEm

You can use the illumination that is not standard from the binocular kit, but you can choose it yourself. I took a regular daylight table lamp on a tripod, the angle of inclination is about 45 degrees. 4x8 work is very comfortable, 7x8 is not perfect, but quite. Since the main mode is 4x8, I am generally satisfied with the system. On the one hand, the lighting is diffused enough to avoid glare. On the other hand, it is directed - it sets off the sculpture well, etc.

Elizar wrote:
> And MBS-10 is both expensive and huge, you'll be tortured to carry... and it takes up half the table at once.

And why carry binoculars? %)

09.01.2008 19:29, savour

can someone tell me: I have an MBS-9, but without a lamp. objects are small and require good light. the table lamp doesn't fit at all... I tried to fasten all sorts of junk - unreliable. is it possible to purchase a lamp separately from the binocular???

09.01.2008 19:59, amara

can someone tell me: I have an MBS-9, but without a lamp. objects are small and require good light. the table lamp doesn't fit at all... I tried to fasten all sorts of junk - unreliable. is it possible to purchase a lamp separately from the binocular???

Try it, for example, here:
http://www.mikroskop-mbs-10.nm.ru/st_komplekt.htm

17.01.2008 17:48, savour

wrote.. no response frown.gif

17.01.2008 18:13, Bad Den

can someone tell me: I have an MBS-9, but without a lamp. objects are small and require good light. the table lamp doesn't fit at all... I tried to fasten all sorts of junk - unreliable. is it possible to purchase a lamp separately from the binocular???

I recommend this:
http://www.veber.ru/catalog/10/70/77/page/2/?details=291

17.01.2008 18:48, amara

wrote.. no response frown.gif


I usually call them, but I think what Bad Den advises is the best way out.

18.01.2008 6:00, savour

wow what a little thing mol.gif

and how does it shine? is it bright enough for max zoom??

generally glamorous gadget jump.gif

18.01.2008 7:57, Bad Den

wow what a little thing mol.gif
and how does it shine? is it bright enough for max zoom??
generally a glamorous gadget jump.gif

Much better than a full-time illuminator.
I bought it for myself, and I'm very happy with it.

21.01.2008 11:32, Alexandr Rusinov

I followed the link and got a virus on my computer. OK, the antivirus worked...

21.01.2008 12:08, Bad Den

by what link?

21.01.2008 12:18, Alexandr Rusinov

Follow this link:/ / www. veber. ru/catalog/10/70/77/page/2/?details=291

21.01.2008 13:59, savour

I have a fresh kaspersky lab, everything was fine :/

22.01.2008 15:38, IchMan

That's for sure, there is a Trojan sitting on the site that steals your passwords mad.gif
Kaspersky doesn't catch it yet!!! We sent them files today ywywem.exe ijbmii.exe with the Trojan and in the next antivirus update, they will already be diagnosed.
So don't go there unnecessarily yet! Moreover, the Lytkarinsky plant sells lighting fixtures for about the same amount of money http://www.lzos.ru
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22.01.2008 17:53, omar

And I wondered where the Trojan came from and was cured.

22.01.2008 21:33, Aleksey Adamov

Not a bad MBS-1, usually such students work as biologists.(if there is no MBS-9)
The increase will be enough for bark beetles, even more will remain. I, for example, identify bark beetles on the "deuce", with a 12X eyepiece. Grabs by the eyes and ears.
And MBS-10 is both expensive and huge, you'll be tortured to carry... and it takes up half the table at once.
And you can buy naavernoe with your hands, however, this one may turn out to be damaged with cloudy prisms, or even worse with a downed alignment.
Dzanat, and you are a bark beetle pro, or a beginner. The interest is personal, I do them myself.


I started working on the MBS-1, an old and very shabby one. I worked long and tiresome. Small ground beetles could not be identified sometimes even before the genus. I changed it to a new MBS-10 and things went uphill. But I admit that if you find somewhere unused MBS-1, it will be no worse than the new MBS-10. I think their nominal increase is the same.
The whole secret is in the lighting and optics. If the surface of the wholesale elements was not wiped with alcohol or scratched with hard fabrics, then everything is clearly visible and the nominal characteristics are used 100%.

24.01.2008 10:29, savour

my battered mbs9 is already glued with superglue in three places, although probably at first glance you will not guess what can be glued there... =)

15.03.2008 0:21, Guest

Has anyone worked with MSPs from LOMO (http://www.lomo.ru/site/catalog/view_main.cgi?l0=1&l1=56&cid=56) Share your impressions.

15.03.2008 19:30, Proctos

Has anyone worked with MSPs from LOMO (http://www.lomo.ru/site/catalog/view_main.cgi?l0=1&l1=56&cid=56) Please share your impressions.

Heh heh... another outsourced version of the Chinese Wuzhou binocular
http://www.wzoka.com/english/products.asp?id=282#
They are also sold in the company Veber (St. Petersburg) but already under their own brand MS-2
http://veber.ru/catalog/10/70/76/?details=285
As well as a good dozen other brands in the world, from Japan to the United States, globalization-S.. however, Outsourcing is the engine of trade!
However, the machine is excellent, yuzayu 2 year and happy
cm http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=159685

This post was edited by Proctos - 03/16/2008 16: 17
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16.03.2008 12:56, Tentator

17.03.2008 7:13, Proctos

Your photos are impressive. I didn't think that a mirrorless camera and fairly cheap microscopic optics can get such quality. Apparently, ordinary Soviet lighting devices with incandescent lamps are not suitable for shooting through a microscope because of the spectrum? Ring lights are probably too weak. What kind of light source do you use?

Yes, it's all about the lighting. The luminescent ring illuminator, alas, gives too little light. Simple incandescent lamps give a poor spectrum, focus poorly and are frankly weak. the only way out is a fiber-optic illuminator, it gives 2 brightest white beams that can be directed to white paper diffusers and curtains. All work with them is described by K. Makarov on his page on the Zinovsky website.
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17.03.2008 19:38, savour

koltsevoi finally came to me.. compared to the light bulb, the light is just a miracle (many thanks to Bad Den for the link!!). no more twisting twists, no more shadows )) the brightness is not much steeper than on my usual fluorescent table lamp, but the convenience and even light-it was worth it %))

finally, there is an incentive to continue working with the Gg ))
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18.03.2008 23:48, Tentator

koltsevoi finally came to me.. compared to the light bulb, the light is just a miracle (many thanks to Bad Den for the link!!). no more twisting twists, no more shadows )) the brightness is not much steeper than on my usual fluorescent table lamp, but the convenience and even light-it was worth it %))

finally, there is an incentive to continue working with the Gg ))


In fact, the ring illuminator only increases the level of illumination in general. To work with small objects, you need a focused beam of light, that is, you need an illuminator with a lens: either fiber-optic or Soviet OI.

19.03.2008 19:09, savour

well, for super little things, I usually use a microscope ))

21.03.2008 0:54, Tentator

Has anyone worked with MSPs from LOMO (http://www.lomo.ru/site/catalog/view_main.cgi?l0=1&l1=56&cid=56) Please share your impressions.
I found out that this MS-2, or Wuzhou, doesn't have eyepieces with a grid - only a ruler. An annoying drawback that doesn't allow you to draw objects.

21.03.2008 0:59, IchMan

I found out that this MS-2, or Wuzhou, doesn't have eyepieces with a grid - only a ruler. An annoying drawback that doesn't allow you to draw objects.

I haven't used a grid for several years now - I use digital photos for drawing, which I already work with in Photoshop and Illustrator. All this, of course, does not speed up the process, but the output is quite decent...

21.03.2008 1:23, Tentator

Very small objects, such as aedeagus, which have to be viewed at a magnification of 80-100 times, can hardly be photographed well. Or do you do it right? Even so, you often still need a drawing.

21.03.2008 1:40, IchMan

I make a drawing from a photo (b/w with feathering) - roughly speaking, I circle the contours, the main thing is that the proportions are observed, and drawing by cells is a thing of the past smile.gif.

This post was edited by IchMan - 03/21/2008 01: 46
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