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20.05.2009 16:09, Papaver

The right theme! Now time is tight - then I'll join the conversation...
Only with water, there will be clear "discrepancies" - the consumption rates and availability of the resource in arid regions and, say, in the far north, will be different, to put it mildly...

20.05.2009 16:38, RippeR

Still well nourish in the field stsuko-fruits and nuts. Nuts are generally a thing! They are nutritious, contain a lot of useful and necessary things.

On the PO we had a small electric stove (and in the field it is a primus), we made adjustable soups. Unless you add a little vermicelli, you can onion garlic, croutons-it turned out an excellent soup, from which we ate to the brim )

Another great thing is corn in cans. You can eat it with a spoon directly from the jar without adding it anywhere, without cooking.. generally a joy!

20.05.2009 17:16, rpanin

Boiled eggs (first three days), 1 egg per day. Protein supplementation.
processed cheese 1 per day
Cheese type "Dutch" 100 gr. per day.
"Mivina" (dry vermicelli) and other dry cereals. A pack for the day.
lots of coffee ! I'm an owl, it's hard to get up in the morning. tea, sugar.
vodka 200 gr per day: 50 in the morning, 50 in the afternoon, 100 gr in the evening.
pork chops. In cold weather, they may not spoil for 5 days.
The shponder is boiled.Great calorie item! Keeps it fresh for 5-7 days.
mayonnaise, and bread loaf with calculation-loaf for 4-5 days.
Onion.
That's the whole diet if you go to the mountains for a week.
Sweet truth then really want. But you realize that this is not an acceptable luxury when every gram of excess weight counts. After all, only one retainer for traps sometimes pulls 5-10 liters.
As you can see, the emphasis is on meat and cheeses. With a minimum weight, a maximum of calories
, the whole thing is taken with the calculation that you don't have to worry too much about the snack. So that everything is prepared quickly and without unnecessary fuss.
Strong coffee in the morning , a sandwich at lunch, and in the evening a full-fledged hot lunch is already in the tent.
And in general, with a weight of 110 kg, they go to the mountains to lose weight wink.gif

This post was edited by rpanin - 05/20/2009 17: 34

20.05.2009 17:18, Papaver

I mentioned above that we are talking about the mountains of Central Asia. In European Russia, for example, it makes no sense to stock up on food at all - you can always find a store smile.gif

So-JUST about Central Asia?
Well, I only have to work in the ERD recently... And somewhere in Yamal, Taimyr or Chukotka to the nearest store, too, if you are lucky with "water trails", not one day's journey, or even more than one week, if you are rafting... Only back - longer. shuffle.gif
By the way, the question of DIET is not an idle one in the EDR...
But if you decided to narrow down the topic-problem in this way...

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20.05.2009 17:22, Papaver

It's easier to set up a new liver than to suffer so much...
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20.05.2009 17:26, Papaver

I should have put a smiley face. I understand and support you! But I'm still not going to fight-with age, excess weight, bad habits, the wrong way of life... frown.gif

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20.05.2009 17:42, Papaver

... And in general, with a weight of 110 kg, they go to the mountains to lose weight wink.gif

It sounds like a mockery! Because you "lose weight" when you are young and light as a feather... I now weigh more than ropalocera-com, but even after the most difficult expeditions, the maximum "debit" is up to 5 kg... frown.gif weep.gif mad.gif

20.05.2009 17:48, rpanin

It sounds like a mockery! Because you "lose weight" when you are young and light as a feather... I now weigh more than ropalocera-com, but even after the most difficult expeditions, the maximum "debit" is up to 5 kg... frown.gif  weep.gif  mad.gif

I lose 7-10 kg in 4-5 days. Time is short as always, but there is plenty of work to be done. We need to catch everything in time. smile.gif
in addition, the weight problem has now turned into arthritis.So you need to lose even more weight if you want to go somewhere at least, and not limp to work and back.
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20.05.2009 17:54, Papaver

20.05.2009 17:58, AlexEvs

Here's what I can add to what I've written:
When collecting in the Caucasus, it does not make sense to carry water with you, because there it is usually enough
If you want to get wet with food, you can dry potatoes in the oven. For dinner, soup with potatoes is, you know, good.
We don't take a lot of booze, and in general, in my opinion, it's better to take concentrate. That is 96% alcohol.
Sweet things are mandatory - both condensed milk and chocolate.
Dried fruit is a very good thing, especially for snacks. I don't like nuts - they make me very thirsty. Although they are undoubtedly nutritious.
About the stew - part of it can be replaced with canned fish. This will diversify the diet.
And if it is absolutely unbearable to carry metal cans of canned food, then you can take soy gulyazh. It's disgusting, but if you add seasonings,you can eat it.
Also, everyone can take a stick of dry sausage with them. In my own experience, sausage can not be wrapped in polyethylene. Better in paper.
Also take ketchup, mayonnaise.

20.05.2009 18:07, rpanin

Yes-a-a! Though envy and bad feeling...
Yes razizh I argue! - just with age, excess weight ceases to be an acceptable variable value. I have tried many things, but "beauty" is a terrible power! - always returns and always adds...

Yeah, it's getting bigger, and it's getting older, and it's getting bigger and bigger. With the end of the season for the winter holidays - the status quo , or even more every year. So here I agree, to run through the mountains and fields as once, more and more difficult . About five years ago, 35 km in a day was not difficult to pass over rough terrain. .Now the maximum limit is 10-15 km per day.

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20.05.2009 20:05, Bad Den

A very good thing, the army dry ration ration IRP-B (Individual combat ration). In stores, it is sometimes sold as an "officer's dry ration"
http://www.opkomplekt.ru/product/rpvn/irpb/about/

Or this option, so to speak, emergency - 5 snickers bars per day + 3 liters of watersmile.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den - 05/20/2009 20: 13

20.05.2009 20:11, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

There are such tablets-ascorbic acid with glucose. A very good stimulant for heavy physical (and not only) exertion.

In this case, it is used not as a medicine, but as a stimulant, like the alcohol and coffee mentioned above.

Attention-rarely, but there is an intolerance to ascorbic acid. This is just in case.
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20.05.2009 20:41, AlexEvs

A very good thing, the army dry ration ration IRP-B (Individual combat ration). In stores, it is sometimes sold as an "officer's dry ration"
http://www.opkomplekt.ru/product/rpvn/irpb/about/


I've heard a lot about these dry rations, once I saw them from some botanists I knew, but I've never seen these kits on sale.


Or this option, so to speak, emergency - 5 snickers bars per day + 3 liters of watersmile.gif


This is absolutely an emergency option. I would say some even cruel smile.gif
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20.05.2009 20:42, omar

A very good thing, the army dry ration ration IRP-B (Individual combat ration). In stores, it is sometimes sold as an "officer's dry ration"
http://www.opkomplekt.ru/product/rpvn/irpb/about/

Or this option, so to speak, emergency - 5 snickers bars per day + 3 liters of watersmile.gif


No ads needed. I spent 4 years picking this stuff out of cans in an army lab. You can't eat everything. And when you still know what it is made of, it becomes so insulting for the soldiers

20.05.2009 20:49, omar

The ropalocera variant seemed the most thoughtful and practical. The rpanin variant seemed suitable only for a one-day hike. The option with snickers and rations is akin to starvation. Especially considering the poor quality of food and a strong lack of calories in the case of rations - I never ate enough, although I tried. This ration is not enough for the whole day! But Ripper doesn't drink. Muslims don't eat pork. What should they do?

20.05.2009 20:51, RippeR

No ads needed. I spent 4 years picking this stuff out of cans in an army lab. You can't eat everything. And when you know what it's made of, it's a shame for the soldiers

this is an emergency option for soldiers smile.gif
It would be better if they ate horseflies and beetle larvae in harsh conditions)
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20.05.2009 21:28, Liparus

Oh cool topic, today I spent 10 hours catching cool beetles.
I drank 2 liters of water,drank 10 eggs at a time,two pies, two buns, 3 bananas (the fourth dropped in a dung heap lol.gif...caught Emus hirtus)
2 cloves of garlic, 4 apples, 2 tablets of Vitrum vitamins, 6 tablets of Valerian
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20.05.2009 21:28, rpanin

The ropalocera variant seemed the most thoughtful and practical. The rpanin variant seemed suitable only for a one-day hike. The option with snickers and rations is akin to starvation. Especially considering the poor quality of food and a strong lack of calories in the case of rations - I never ate enough, although I tried. This ration is not enough for the whole day! But Ripper doesn't drink. Muslims don't eat pork. What should they do?

18-20 kg for a week is somehow too much. Especially when you're walking on your own and you're carrying all the comfort on your back. You have to save on food in terms of weight. Still, the main goal of the campaign is not to be a gourmet, but to support the forces. At me me 2,5-3,5 kg only grub weigh on such time. This is enough. Excluding water and vodka, of course.
I eat a lot at home , but very little on a hike.Sometimes for the whole day one or two sandwiches is enough and a mug of hot tea, +100g. No way without them.The excitement of fishing kills your appetite.
May 1-6 was 5 nights in Podillia in the Ternopil region. A lot of things from food(Dutch cheese 400gr, pork shponder 0.5 kg) also brought home back. It just didn't fit.

This post was edited by rpanin - 05/20/2009 21: 48
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20.05.2009 21:41, Bad Den

No ads needed. I spent 4 years picking this stuff out of cans in an army lab. You can't eat everything. And when you know what it's made of, it's a shame for the soldiers

This is not an advertisement smile.giffor Me so nothing, it seemed edible (I ate a sample of the lunch portion). Yes, and ~3000 kcal after all.

20.05.2009 21:49, omar

Ruslan, I wanted to tell you that I thought your products were too perishable. How do you save cheese, curds and pork chops in the heat? A whole week? After all, it won't take long to get poisoned. This can be very frustrating. In appearance, such a chop like nicho, slightly smells sour, and 2 hours after eating, you will start to pray to God, burying your nose in the root of a tree. And after all, no one will help! And what is a shponder, explain to Moskal?
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20.05.2009 21:57, omar

This is not an advertisement smile.giffor Me so nothing, it seemed edible (I ate a sample of the lunch portion). Yes, and ~3000 kcal after all.

I do not know how they gain these calories, but in reality there are fewer of them. One ration per day is sorely lacking! This is for me, despite the fact that I am far from ropalocera and rpanin in terms of live weight. It is a pity that I did not have the task to investigate THIS for energy value at that time, I was only concerned with quality. Otherwise, we would have had numeral proofs, not verbal ones.

20.05.2009 22:01, Papaver

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20.05.2009 22:05, mikee

I do not know how they gain these calories, but in reality there are fewer of them. One ration per day is sorely lacking! This is for me, despite the fact that I am far from ropalocera and rpanin in terms of live weight. It is a pity that I did not have the task to investigate THIS for energy value at that time, I was only concerned with quality. Otherwise, we would have had numeral proofs, not verbal ones.

Shponder-approximately, smoked brisket, bacon.

20.05.2009 22:07, omar

As for the excitement of hunting, I agree - sometimes I don't eat anything at all all day, just drink water. But the next day on khavchik punches strongly.
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20.05.2009 22:09, rpanin

Ruslan, I wanted to tell you that I thought your products were too perishable. How do you save cheese, curds and pork chops in the heat? A whole week? After all, it won't take long to get poisoned. This can be very frustrating. In appearance, such a chop like nicho, slightly smells sour, and 2 hours after eating, you will start to pray to God, burying your nose in the root of a tree. And after all, no one will help! And what is a shponder, explain to Moskal?

Well, yes, my entire diet is certainly designed for cool weather . In early May, in general, there were still frosts in Podillya. And in the mountains, above 1500m in the Carpathians, it is never hot.And in the heat, of course, you can't do without stews. Meat, boiled eggs, really already on the second day are not suitable. Is that perekipyat and necessarily with vodka to eat.Vodka is generally a well-rounded item,both as an appetizer and as a disinfectant. Sometimes there is not enough water ,so you wash your hands with vodka before eating. For the faint of heart-10g (cap) is enough. wink.gif
shponder-boiled and smoked pork belly .Or bacon

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20.05.2009 22:10, Papaver

As for the excitement of hunting, I agree - sometimes I don't eat anything at all all day, just drink water. But the next day on khavchik punches strongly.

Therefore, it is necessary - a little, but often. AND-HOT!

20.05.2009 22:21, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Oh cool topic, today I spent 10 hours catching cool beetles.
I drank 2 liters of water,drank 10 eggs at a time,two pies, two buns, 3 bananas (the fourth dropped in a dung heap lol.gif...caught Emus hirtus)
2 cloves of garlic, 4 apples, 2 tablets of Vitrum vitamins, 6 tablets of valerian


Sorry for the intimate question - and valerian you like (and why?) consumed it?

Wow, how all the food that struck! I'm going to get some tea. With bacon.
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20.05.2009 22:22, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Ugh, not tea with lard, but tea with a lard sandwich.
And then they'll think-a culinary pervert...
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20.05.2009 22:26, Papaver

Oh cool topic, today I spent 10 hours catching cool beetles.
I drank 2 liters of water,drank 10 eggs at a time,two pies, two buns, 3 bananas (the fourth dropped in a dung heap lol.gif...caught Emus hirtus)
2 cloves of garlic, 4 apples, 2 tablets of Vitrum vitamins, 6 tablets of valerian

Long then bl...al? shuffle.gif

20.05.2009 22:26, omar

We now have a great camping item in our stores - a raw smoked shponder in vacuum packages. This is really great for any hike.

20.05.2009 23:00, RippeR

and we have a cool thing - dried meat with spices-invented as a snack to beer. But nevertheless, it distracts and partially fills the stomach very well - you go, gnaw, dissolve the meat slowly, and you don't want to eat it - just super for long walks for insects. It is a pity that there is not so much meat in the package, although one package for 2 people at a time is enough.

By the way, peanut butter - I think it's perfect for hiking. High in calories, delicious and healthy. Spread on bread and you can be happy)
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20.05.2009 23:32, Liparus

How long then bl ... al? shuffle.gif

I didn't eat weep.gifenough
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20.05.2009 23:35, Liparus

Sorry for the intimate question - and valerian you like (and why?) consumed it?

Well, so that my nerve cells don't get nervous,and in general, when beetles get away from me, I get very worried...
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20.05.2009 23:41, Liparus

10 eggs... What a blow to the liver.


Yes?And I was going to go on an egg diet, eat 20 pieces a day to start with, and so on for the whole summer...Just one American bodybuilder ate 50 egg whites a day,and the second 70...The matter is that I at growth of 180 kg weigh 70, here I need at least 80
of a liver at me probably neostalos, I ate in the winter powdered protein, the gainer, glutamic amino acid, glycine, nootropil
Do not judge me strictly about this stuff redface.gif

20.05.2009 23:48, Aaata

18-20 kg for a week is somehow too much. Especially when you're walking on your own and you're carrying all the comfort on your back. You have to save on food in terms of weight. Still, the main goal of the campaign is not to be a gourmet, but to support the forces. At me me 2,5-3,5 kg only grub weigh on such time. This is enough. Excluding water and vodka, of course.
I eat a lot at home , but very little on a hike.Sometimes for the whole day one or two sandwiches is enough and a mug of hot tea, +100g. No way without them.The excitement of fishing kills your appetite.
May 1-6 was 5 nights in Podillia in the Ternopil region. A lot of things from food(Dutch cheese 400gr, pork shponder 0.5 kg) also brought home back. It just didn't fit.

This is when the bite. And if boredom, then on such zhor punches! Ready to eat everything at once smile.gif
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20.05.2009 23:51, Aaata

The fact is that I weigh 70 kg at a height of 180 kg,so I need at least 80

Take 30 from me smile.gif
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20.05.2009 23:54, Aaata

... at least carry the camp kitchen with you... smile.gif
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21.05.2009 0:02, Liparus

The fact is that I weigh 70 kg at a height of 180 kg,so I need at least 80

Take 30 from me smile.gif

My best friend offers me the same thing smile.gifI don't refuse

This post was edited by Liparus - 05/21/2009 00: 05

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