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Greetings! I don't know if I'm writing correctly in this topic, but it's just closer in meaning, I didn't find anything like this on the forum.
The thing is that I set traps for beetles, soil and crown. True, I do not install crowns in a very classic way - no matter how much I tried, but I never managed to throw the rope over the crown of a tall tree, usually the rope gets tangled in the crown branches and that's all. I will try to buy a fishing line and shoot a weight from a slingshot that I will make specifically for this, but I don't know what will come of it. But in the meantime, in order to set traps, I just climb trees for several years now, at the same time I do sports )))
But in general, the main idea of this post is not at all about this. However, I don't know if I can add photos, because without them, the message is almost meaningless. I have already written to the admins many times, but the truth is to no avail, that I can not add photos to the forum - a message pops up that it is supposedly SPAM. But I'll try, maybe it will work.
In general, the point is that once I climbed a fairly high oak tree to check out another trap, which, I must say, brought a very good profit in the form of different types of bronzes, barbels, lucanids, etc. Perhaps this is the highest point of the current traps. When you look down, it takes your breath away, just like from floor 8-9... Maybe of course it just seems that way, I don't know. But definitely not lower than the 5th. So, the most interesting thing is that when I got in there and raised my head, contrary to all expectations, I did not find anyone and nothing in it, not even the bait that I poured there a week ago. Upon closer inspection, a ragged hole was found almost in the bottom of the trap, which is made of a SMOOTH PLASTIC bottle, with a diameter approximately as if it had been shot through by a bullet, about 5.6 mm, at first I thought so, but upon further inspection, damage was also found to the plastic lid with which the trap is attached to the branch by. The lid is clearly gnawed by someone's teeth. Now I have no doubt that it was made by some animal. But who could it be, provided that at a distance of about 1 meter around and under the trap there are no more branches, there is also no one in the trap, there is only a branch on which it hangs, and the height is very decent? Here is such a mystery, maybe someone had a similar experience?

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I just threw a load (200 g of lead plaque from a donkey-gum) with my hand, having previously untwisted it, I flew normally, almost to the top of a 70-year-old oak tree. The main thing at the same time is that the fishing line does not aim for anything on the ground, for this I used a special round reel for throwing, working on the principle of an inertia-free reel, only better (because the diameter is larger). But it didn't help me very much - only a lot of leafmakers were trapped in a day later.

And your trap was obviously eaten by some rodent, possibly a dormouse (they love fermented fruit very much). Although common squirrels, this is not alien to me, because once on a tape of stationery tape, which attached another trap to the trunk, I found a tuft of squirrel hair.

Once Sonya got into the habit of climbing into a trap, feeding on catocals. And I tried to outweigh it, but I still found it. About a week came across until a hundred meters did not carry the trap.
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All this is good, but how the hell could she have chewed a hole in a smooth plastic bottle, and in the bottom of the bottle, when you consider that there is nothing around for her to even cling to, especially from the bottom, and if she climbed inside, then why wasn't she there and why did she even have to chew through the bottom?

I do not make bait from fruit, usually beer-wine+salt sacchar

Send greetings to the local woodpeckers, their work )))

Of course, anyone could have chewed it, but judge for yourself - the bottle is in a suspended state, there is no stop, besides it is smooth, plastic, try to break
through the suspended bottle with a knife, and how can they have hollowed it out, a local woodpecker could not, for example, climb into a trap and hammer the bottom upside down? Jokes are jokes, and yet this phenomenon cannot be interpreted from any side. Metaphysics, and only))

the woodpecker could! through such a hole I could climb and hammer from the inside into the bottom. But I can't say whether I was able to make a hole...

It would be a little difficult for a woodpecker to hang upside down on a bottle and bang. Oh, I've just flipped back a page and found that I'm not the only one who thinks so. IMHO the beast is unequivocal

It would be a little difficult for a woodpecker to hang upside down on a bottle and bang. Oh, I've just flipped back a page and found that I'm not the only one who thinks so. IMHO the beast is unequivocal

Well, with such a bait, there will be even more willing animals, especially if you are already addicted to alcohol in places of picnic parties. And drunks, as you know, often have phenomenal acrobatic abilities. But seriously, there is nothing impossible there: the rodent caught the claws of its hind legs on the lower edge of the cutout and perfectly reached the bottom with its teeth. Upside down, yes, they are very good at it (squirrels and dormice). Or the second option: after drinking the contents, the animal began to brawl and in search of an additive chewed the bottle from the inside. I read in Olifer's book how voles got to a bag of food suspended from the ceiling of the hut on a string. And voles are not the best acrobats.

Thank you for your answer, but it still sounds very unconvincing. Take a closer look - well, how could a rodent get inside if there are no branches around the trap within a radius of about a meter, or even more, and on top of the cone-shaped dome of the bottle and it is made of smooth plastic, and even more so if it is a rodent, then it has claws, not suckers! And how would he have gotten out of there, since no one was there when I got in? It would just slide down the cone, that's all. Suppose a woodpecker could fly in and out, although the woodpecker is too big for this trap, but maybe not even a woodpecker, but another, small bird. But then who chewed the lid, clearly it was a rodent. I already had such thoughts-maybe the rodent was hanging out there, and someone snuck into it from a melkan or a powerful pneuma and punched a hole (I like to shoot bottles myself, but not at animals), but here, too, everything is not quite smooth-the crown is thick, you need to look very long to see the trap, t you need to know that it is there, and the place is quite remote, remote from populated areas. Well, the hole is not quite like a bullet, except in diameter.
PS And to catch something in traps, I advise you to install them in the crowns of OAKS. It is oaks that love bronzes, lucanuses, etc.

I just threw a load (200 g of lead plaque from a donkey-gum) with my hand, having previously untwisted it, I flew normally, almost to the top of a 70-year-old oak tree. The main thing at the same time is that the fishing line does not aim for anything on the ground, for this I used a special round reel for throwing, working on the principle of an inertia-free reel, only better (because the diameter is larger). But it didn't help me very much - only a lot of leafmakers were trapped in a day later.

And your trap was obviously eaten by some rodent, possibly a dormouse (they love fermented fruit very much). Although common squirrels, this is not alien to me, because once on a tape of stationery tape, which attached another trap to the trunk, I found a tuft of squirrel hair.

My problem was something else. I used a rope, this time, secondly, it got tangled in the crown of a tree, and not on the ground. T e I did not throw it to the point that it flew over the crown. It wound around a branch and stayed there. Today I bought a fishing line, I'll try it with it. But here's what bothers me - even if I can throw it over the top of an oak tree or shoot it, I'll tie a trap, I think I also need a load inside and the fishing line will slide, this is understandable, but when you lower the trap from the crown to the ground, what is the guarantee that there will not be such a branch that or will it get stuck?
You also set a trap on an oak tree, now I read the message more carefully, but it is also possible that the oak is different from the oak, in my experience you do not need to choose old, sprawling oaks with thick branches, I can roughly imagine what the old oak looks like. I didn't see anything on them except butterflies, either. Beetles are best caught in oak groves, on forest roads, edges where the oaks are straight and tall, with relatively thin branches and there are a lot of them, these oaks, but it is advisable to put them on the trees that are extreme to the road, and not in the thicket.

This post was edited by koty - 23.09.2016 21: 11

cats, you had a chance-to examine the bottle for wool, by wool you could not only determine who it is, but even possibly the type of dormouse-by asking the acc. specialists
And so - this is already divination and transfusion from empty to empty) Do you think that over the past few years of living in trees, dormice have been able to adapt so that they can climb into your bottle, eat everything there, and get out by jumping on a branch / trunk? ))

cats, you had a chance-to examine the bottle for wool, by wool you could not only determine who it is, but even possibly the type of dormouse-by asking the acc. specialists
And so - this is already divination and transfusion from empty to empty) Do you think that over the past few years of living in trees, dormice have been able to adapt so that they can climb into your bottle, eat everything there and get out by jumping on a branch / trunk? ))

There was definitely no wool there. None at all. I've been looking at everything there for quite a long time, and I'd probably have noticed it if it was there. Not even a trace of it. And there was also moss on the bark, a rather old tree. And there are no claw marks or anything.
Could they have adapted in N years? I can only assume that if plastic bottles had been growing on the oaks for N years, they probably could have )))
You are trying to compare the surface of a tree and the surface of a plastic bottle, think about it.

So it's not any rodent, but an arboreal one, that is, an acrobat and a balancing act by default. There are a lot of videos on YouTube with squirrels, how they get to hanging bird feeders in a sophisticated way, take a look. I don't know if there is a similar movie with dormice (because they are nocturnal animals), but they can do it just as well.

Well, yes, we have plenty of squirrels, including rat squirrels. I don't know about Sony, I've never seen it, but the way you write it is nocturnal animals...
Once, in the early spring, I saw an animal that I didn't know at all - it was 3 times bigger than a squirrel, it was sitting on a tree when it saw me - it began to climb higher and higher, it shrank all over, I didn't bother it anymore, took a picture and left. But the photos won't do much, because he was sitting high, and I was taking pictures on my phone. But it looked more like a predator than a rodent.

I didn't see it either, but I did find nests. We don't see many animals (or we rarely see them), even if the biotope is full of them.
The animal you are writing about is described as a marten, but it would still not hurt to look at the photo. What kind of animal is a rat squirrel? And then Google sent me somewhere wrong for such a request. And in general, where is this oak tree geographically located? And then, maybe there are some bats there at all, and here we are trying to pull the animals of the middle lane on the globe.

Krysobelka is more of a slang name for the local population of a local variety of squirrels. But I don't know much about them, so I can't say for sure. Sort of like a cross between a rat and a squirrel )) gray in color with fluffy tails. They're so cool. We have plenty of them both in the forest and in the city.
Geographically, it is clearly not the middle zone - Krasnodar Krai, Sochi.
Photos if only later, you need to search for them on the computer, but I write from the tablet, now there is no time, I will throw them later, again, if I can throw them here, usually SPAM gives out and that's it.

I don't know if it was discussed or not, but here, I came across a trail. recipe for catching barbel (true in the States): "a mixture of one part molasses, one part beer, nine parts tap water, and a sprinkling of dry active yeast to start fermentation."

https://beetlesinthebush.wordpress.com/2015...horned-beetles/

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Colleagues! Does anyone use an umbrella when brushing off branches? Regular or after some kind of "upgrade"? I tried to shake in the usual, Chinese origin-the frame from pushing branches quickly fails. Share your experience!

I'm shaking - Chinese umbrellas don't last long, but you can buy them in bulk - right on the spot, in any market.

I liked malyavochnik much more in this regard, only I replaced the regular grid with an adequate fabric.
But it's still too heavy, too lazy to carry it with you, it's easier to buy umbrellas.

If ultra-compactness is not very important, then the "Naturalist" with the frame is very good. Although, it costs kanesh, not 5 euros...

Colleagues! Does anyone use an umbrella when brushing off branches? Regular or after some kind of "upgrade"? I tried to shake in the usual, Chinese origin-the frame from pushing branches quickly fails. Share your experience!

I've been using this one for several years now

[okoyom: I've been using this one for a few years now]

Interesting! It looks simple and convenient. But the device is not very clear. If possible, please describe in more detail: what the frame is made of, how it is attached in the corners of the panel, and whether it is folded. Thank you in advance!

Good time of day. I heard that you can somehow "go through" ground squirrels and marmot burrows for insects, in particular, you are interested in scarabs. So the question is, how is this done correctly?

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Kostya, you're brutal
so pogonokherusy can fall and many more

So they also fall

Good time of day. I heard that you can somehow "go through" ground squirrels and marmot burrows for insects, in particular, you are interested in scarabs. So the question is, how is this done correctly?

Will I join this question? I always looked at ground squirrels ' burrows and took what I was interested in by hand.
Maybe there is a more effective method?

Will I join this question? I always looked at ground squirrels ' burrows and took what I was interested in by hand.
Maybe there is a more effective method?

And how is it done manually ?

And how is it done manually ?

I inspect what can be seen at the entrance, and as far as possible in depth, with tweezers I take everything that is interesting.

You can also check with a flashlight at night, but this is all ineffective, I would like to find out which method.

And if you dig a furrow with glasses around the hole? I used this method for rotten stumps, but it should also work with a burrow. If only its builders do not have time to bury this case.

"Entomologists identified tsetse flies' favorite color and painted traps with it"
https://nplus1.ru/news/2019/12/13/tsetse-favourite - Overview
https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?...al.pntd.0007905 - оригинальная статья "Optimising targets for tsetse control: Taking a fly’s-eye-view to improve the colour of synthetic fabrics"

Maybe someone will be interested to see https://vimeo.com/user46543300

Good time of day. Please tell me if there are any traps, baits for Calosoma sycophanta ?

When working with burrows, ideally you need to get to the nest. But in practice, this is unrealistic, so you should throw the earth inside the hole on the oilcloth, as much as the hand crawls, and inspect it. Sometimes it is useful to sift the soil through a sieve. For large animals (fox, marmot, badger), you probably need to assemble a scraper from a sawn-off plastic bottle and a stick - but I didn't get there, since I don't have marmots. It is useful to dig a little hole with a spatula. In mountainous areas, you should not be too lazy, but sort out the entrance to the burrow by stones - there are a lot of interesting things that will fall out, at least this worked for the Alpine marmot.
When working with marmot colonies, it should be borne in mind that there is a headquarters burrow (nest), where almost everything sits, and in other burrows there are few beetles.
All burrowing beetles are good at climbing into soil traps, but these traps are actively covered with earth or pulled out by the animals themselves (badgers).
It should be borne in mind that nidicoles are caught on the principle of "where it is thick-where it is empty", that is, unevenly.