Traps - methods and publications. Barber, tree crown, window ones, etc.

But in general, probably not

Who knows, who knows...

A little bit about Necroforuses. In the summer, I put soil traps in my forest without a retainer. Well, some of the traps were filled with earthworms, and one of them was hit by a shrew and died there. A lot of necroforuses came to this stench. I think I'll do this next season. I will catch small rodents with ordinary mousetraps and put them in soil traps, and at the very bottom, under the funnel into which the beetles will fall. In this way, the stench of dead meat will spread, and the beetles will be clean.
What a cool idea did I come up with?

Not very clear. Can I ask for a drawing?

No, you know, it's easier to put a dead horse in the woods and cover it with gauze  

And here a number of questions arise:
1. Where can we muddy a horse's corpse?
2. How to transport?
3. Pulled apart by forest dwellers

It's a good idea, though. Especially when combined with soil traps. Yes, and you can put a window, fixing two-hundredth nails in the rotting flesh.

Not very clear. Can I ask for a drawing?

Here is the drawing:

Here is the drawing:

1) I think the fixing fluid will still be needed in this method.
2) necrophilous beetles are excellent diggers (especially Nicrophorus), they will not be difficult to get under the funnel to your mouse.

1) I think the fixing fluid will still be needed in this method.
2) necrophilous beetles are excellent diggers (especially Nicrophorus), they will not be difficult to get under the funnel to your mouse.

It's like this is the case? Through plastic or something?
You probably didn't realize that both funnels are inserted into the bottle.

This post was edited by Sugercete - 03/14/2010 21: 51

It's like this is the case? Through plastic or something?

Yes, no, along the edges, bypassing the funnel, directly into the hole in the ground - and to the mouse.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 14.03.2010 21: 52

Yes, no, along the edges, bypassing the funnel, directly into the hole in the ground - and to the mouse.

You probably didn't realize that both funnels are inserted into the bottle.
Or I can't understand you

Squeeze out the edge of the funnel?
We'll have to experiment.
Well, it's not for nothing that they taught me how to set mousetraps correctly in field practice at the university

This post was edited by Sugercete - 03/14/2010 21: 53

You probably didn't realize that both funnels are inserted into the bottle.
Or I can't understand you

And if the mouse (and the funnels) are placed in the container, then they (bugs ) can "squeeze" the edge of the upper funnel.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 14.03.2010 22: 01

We'll have to experiment.
Well it's not for nothing that the university taught you how to put mousetraps correctly in field practice

Colleagues, or maybe this topic here with this: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=232159&st=0 combine them?

And if the mouse (and funnels) are placed in the container, they can "squeeze" the edge of the upper funnel.

We'll have to experiment.
Well, it's not for nothing that they taught me how to set mousetraps correctly in field practice at the university

No, the idea itself has a right to exist, and it can be quite effective. Just one of the goals set - the relative purity of beetles (by the way, it is still unknown from whose corpses they flew to your mouse ) - will not be fully achieved: some of the beetles will still reach the corpse.

Colleagues, or maybe this topic here with this: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=232159&st=0 combine them?

Indeed, here I am, for example, going to drain juice from different trees(oak, aspen, birch, maple, etc.) in early spring. And then, later in the summer, I'm going to charge these juices into various clever traps. The results of these manipulations will have to be discussed in two topics at once.

similar ideas have emerged, but they have never been implemented. It would be interesting to see how it works.

Sorry, it inspired me:

Here is the drawing:

The design is too complex

Indeed, here I am, for example, going to drain juice from different trees(oak, aspen, birch, maple, etc.) in early spring.

With birch-it is clear, but how to harvest the juice of other breeds. They are less succulent. And the idea is very, very good!!!

And the oak does not flow in spring

With birch-it is clear, but how to harvest the juice of other breeds. They are less succulent. And the idea is very, very good!!!

Wonderfully dripping American maple juice (Acer negundo)

The idea is raw in terms of juices, you need to read it.
And if the wood flows weakly, you need to use a drill and a pipe. And then you need to stick a live branch in the hole. This is how my dad used to collect maple and birch sap as a child. It flowed very quickly. I don't know about the oak tree. I'll try again.

The design is too complex

By what?
I put them myself and quickly, though without the lower funnel. Well, a funnel was added, it only complicates the production, but it speeds up the collection. It (the lower one) must be cut out of the bottle with a tail to pull it.

Yeah. Super difficult to cut two plastic bottles in half...

Take a pair of strong scissors, stick one end through the bottle and cut as you please...

Indeed, here I am, for example, going to drain juice from different trees(oak, aspen, birch, maple, etc.) in early spring. And then, later in the summer, I'm going to charge these juices into various clever traps. The results of these manipulations will have to be discussed in two topics at once.

That's what I'm thinking. Because my crowns are mostly on oak, and one on ash, and a couple on linden according to the parameters of faunal differences have not yet yielded results. I want to do the truth in a different way to make a decoction from the leaves of these tree species, followed by fermentation. It would be especially interesting to try poplars and aspens, because I don't have enough beetles from these trees yet.

PS In the framework of the entomology circle, I built a structure (the frame is covered with a film, there is still a stump and branches of some Populus). However, no one has come out yet. I also want to lay a pine tree. I hope that Tetropium fuscum will come out, except for the ordinary Arhopalusa

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A little bit about Necroforuses. In the summer, I put soil traps in my forest without a retainer. Well, some of the traps were filled with earthworms, and one of them was hit by a shrew and died there. A lot of necroforuses came to this stench. I think I'll do this next season. I will catch small rodents with ordinary mousetraps and put them in soil traps, and at the very bottom, under the funnel into which the beetles will fall. In this way, the stench of dead meat will spread, and the beetles will be clean.
What a cool idea did I come up with?

I have the same Germanicus not caught  

Londonom and I don't know if he's on the forum or not, when we were at the Capriano-Skoren reservation, he found a mole and put it in a big glass. The next time it was full of Nicrophorus fossor. I also have a whole mattress lying on the ground. So who needs it, if we cooperate with the ripper, I can give you a parcel to Moscow for nothing, the only thing is that my elytra are rarely light yellow.

Also in Chisinau, near the house in the park found a dead dog. From paper, I made something like gloves, a dog on the side, 4 cups buried and a dog on top, it was full of Hister in which I do not rummage, Catops, Nebria violacea staffs - in general, a typical composition. The dog was covered with leaves so that no one would mock and spoil the experiment. And recently I watched Brossard's film, insects-silent partners, so there the guy also took samples-forensic examination. But he measured everything thoroughly-larvae, location, etc., etc., great. The day of death is set to the day and sometimes even to the hour, we also seem to have someone saying that this is connected with it.

In our BSSR, unauthorized juice harvesting is punishable by non-acidic fines. Ajna juice doesn't want much more for a very long time. But when we were kids, we used to collect sap from different trees by cutting off one branch and putting a beer glass bottle on it. If only a cut of the branch would fit through the neck. The drop of the bottle from the weight was fixed with a wedge and a string just in case. I never saw plastic bottles like this before. However, not much juice is collected. Not like the birch tree. However, those who need a few liters can and should try. I see the people here are still the same...

This place is full of traps

http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/new20031.htm

This place is full of traps
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/new20031.htm

Then it's better to go right here http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/tsurik4.htm

I started harvesting juice in the fall: I grated apples, squeezed the juice. Now it's under the bathroom sink. Periodically, it is necessary to bleed off the released gas. It smells like cheap babble...

I started harvesting juice in the fall: I grated apples, squeezed the juice. Now it's under the bathroom sink. Periodically, it is necessary to bleed off the released gas. It smells like cheap babble...

This is how vinegar is made.

This is how vinegar is made.

And I could make cider...

It seems first cider, and then still stand longer and vinegar: -)

I don't seem to be the only one with a temporary mental breakdown caused by the spring harvest season waiting syndrome

This post was edited by Sugercete - 03/25/2010 11: 14

I started harvesting juice in the fall: I grated apples, squeezed the juice. Now it's under the bathroom sink. Periodically, it is necessary to bleed off the released gas. It smells like cheap babble...

At first I was scared, but from the subsequent discussion I realized that by apples the author meant fruit after all...

At first I was scared, but from the subsequent discussion I realized that by apples the author meant fruit after all...

about the evolution in another branch

I don't seem to be the only one with a temporary mental breakdown caused by the spring harvest season waiting syndrome

turbidity in the entire middle band)))

At first I was scared, but from the subsequent discussion I realized that by apples the author meant fruit after all...

That would be coconuts...

And I rarely get vinegar. Forever need to wait longer

Now I want to say a word on the case. Or rather, ask a question.

What kind of trap is used to catch a horse?