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Catching night and day butterflies

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05.03.2012 18:29, tiger33

Yes, various containers are now full. The problem, as niyaz wrote above, is precisely the inconvenience of carrying and transporting them in large quantities.

offtop: And so I am preparing for the season, soon they will bring me cedar plates for straightening).

05.03.2012 21:27, А.Й.Элез

Only if the thin-bellied day butterfly is squeezed, then the night butterfly requires injection of sleeping pills.
Well, if it requires it, then you need to inject it, I don't argue with that. It's just that I (and many others until a few decades ago) never needed it, so I doubted the benefits of the syringe method. Plus, because of the possible consequences of the injection, which the stain is not fraught with. And on a hike (not at night at the screen, but on the route), a large non-caught night usually does not go in a jamb. One way or another, two preliminary stains and one final one are the minimum minimum even on the go. In the last season, the catokals were taken directly to the stain by a shoal (although there were even more of those that were not allowed at all) and were normally preserved. Hawkmoth on other days on the day route were also taken often, a net-stain. I've spent my whole life taking water out of the net with a stain, and in any case, the catch rate is not higher than that of syringes (there is something to compare it with). In general, fixing a moth in a net with your hands, in my opinion, is not the case (except for very rare compliant specimens). As well as pricking once again.

By the way, an assistant for the "net - stain" method is needed only for a small acceleration of the process and only for the first time, and with a little experience, it's fine without an assistant. In terms of time, messing around with a stain is also no more stressful than messing around with a syringe, which is hardly possible to carry in a loaded and ready-to-use form right in your pocket. But everything, of course , is a matter of taste and habit. At the screen, some of my friends are using a syringe with all their might. But on the route - much less often. And I personally, without an assistant, with my two hands, would not be so easy to first intercept the butterfly's exit, then (clearly not with the same hand) fix the butterfly under the folds of the bag), then, holding the butterfly through the fabric (and with it the entire net) with one hand, the other (not with the nose).) take a syringe at the ready (God forbid that it is already filled as it should be just before the capture of the specimen and with the needle already uncovered, because otherwise the cover can only be removed with your teeth), and then prick it. And everything is not on the screen, but on the route. In my opinion, it can be easier.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 05.03.2012 21: 36
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05.03.2012 21:56, А.Й.Элез

[/b]yes, I was just going to use similar cans for bulk products...
If by" similar cans " you mean glass ones, then that's fine. If some plastic "for bulk products" - I do not advise, God still knows how it will react to the mordant drug. Although the plastic bottom of Moccona cans has been tested for years, you can rely on it, at least when using ethyl acetate.

05.03.2012 22:10, А.Й.Элез

in the net, you need to get good at it, so as not to press it by the wings or on top - it will rub off. either in the crease to drive, or to the wings up-intercept.
For daytime users, it's very easy to get the hang of it, but for night ones, I wouldn't even be able to intercept "wings up" (except for bast shoes like Saturnia pyri), this is by definition quite traumatic (although this method is in fashion today). The less contact the butterfly has with the bag (especially in a cramped position), the better. Well, what are the great disadvantages of staining, so that you can really pray for a syringe? There are enough inconveniences in both cases (with a syringe they are definitely not less), and there is clearly more fuss with an active butterfly in the syringe version (in the "net - stain" version there is practically no such fuss).
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06.03.2012 1:36, tiger33

Banks are just glass, and in general, in the absence of pure ethyl acetate, I will use "laska". And she herself is sold in plastic, so I think there will be no problems.
Still, I think the method of covering a hawk moth on canvas with a wide-necked stain is very relevant.
I used to catch them myself in this way. I didn't notice much damage.

06.04.2012 22:58, tiger33

Actually, I will slowly continue the topic.
There is a gradual preparation for the season, a friend at the request made cedar slats-for future straightening.

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08.04.2012 13:51, tiger33

Purchased containers for future stains. For 75 rubles / piece

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08.04.2012 23:51, Bad Den

Purchased containers for future stains. For 75 rubles / piece


won't they be beaten?

09.04.2012 19:35, tiger33

Yes, no,for trips and hikes within the suburbs and regions will do. In extreme cases, you can wrap something around.
they have a convenient lid shape,you can stuff cotton wool into the handle to impregnate EA, and everything opens quickly and closes hermetically. There is no risk of crushing the jar.

And on long trips, you can always buy something food-plastic-tinned. Wash and soak in it, and then throw out something (do not carry garbage).

This post was edited by tiger33-09.04.2012 19: 36

18.04.2012 14:04, Bianor

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