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Various small Noctuid moths. Families Erebidae, Noctuidae, Nolidae

Community and ForumInsects imagesVarious small Noctuid moths. Families Erebidae, Noctuidae, Nolidae

Vlad Proklov, 08.02.2008 12:30

There are other places for tapeworms and snake scoops, and here let a clearing be laid for their smaller relatives.

Zebeeba falsalis Herrich-Schäffer, 1839

The closest relative of the ubiquitous Rivula sericealis, found in the south, is absent in Russia. Copy from Portugal:

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This post was edited by kotbegemot - 02/11/2008 20: 56

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08.02.2008 12:31, Vlad Proklov

Eublemma (Eublemma) parva Hübner, 1808

One of the smallest scoops.

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08.02.2008 12:31, Vlad Proklov

Eublemma (Eublemma) ostrina Hübner, 1808

This is a yellow form, and there is also a pinkish one. Male:

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Female:

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08.02.2008 12:31, Vlad Proklov

Eublemma (Coccidiphaga) scitula Rambur, 1833

Its caterpillars, as you might guess from the name, feed on worms - a rare example of" useful " caterpillars. Male:

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Female:

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08.02.2008 12:32, Vlad Proklov

Metachrostis velox Hübner, 1813

A typical Mediterranean minnow:

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08.02.2008 12:32, Vlad Proklov

Hypena lividalis Hübner, 1769

The smallest of the European barbels, with a wingspan of ~1.5 cm.

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08.02.2008 12:32, Vlad Proklov

Reach smile.gifout

08.02.2008 13:25, Guest

1. How low has zoology fallen, even if the "next of kin" now has a different generic name?

08.02.2008 15:01, Bad Den

What's wrong, guest?
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08.02.2008 23:50, Pavel Morozov

Stretch out smile.gif

Let's catch up!

10.02.2008 17:31, Ilia Ustiantcev

In the meantime, Morozzz has not caught up with the seaside wonders, I'll post ours.
Paracolax tristalis-Crimea, Laspi, 16.07.2006
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Hypena rostralis-MO, Ozuyevsky district, 12.05.2007
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One of the most beautiful, in my opinion, butterflies "in the theme" - Parascotia fulginaria. Moscow, 01.07.2007
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Common Rivula sericealis-MO, Ozuyevsky district, 04.08.2007
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10.02.2008 17:34, Ilia Ustiantcev

And a couple of less banal southern views:
Polypogon plumigeralis-Crimea, Laspi, 27.07.2007
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Rhynchodontodes antiqualis-Crimea, Laspi, 16.07.2007
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10.02.2008 17:56, Vlad Proklov

By the way, here is P. plumigeralis straightened (also from Portugal, like everything I have in this topic at the moment):

Polypogon plumigeralis Hübner, 1825

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And a couple more.

Nodaria nodosalis Herrich-Schäffer, 1851

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Eutelia adulatrix Hübner, 1813

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10.02.2008 18:39, Ilia Ustiantcev

And, a pistachio scoop is also considered for various trifles?! Crimea, Laspi, 27.07.2007
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11.02.2008 9:52, svm2

Some more Eublemminae
Calimma communimacula-Cherkasy region Smela, 31.07.74
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Eublemma amoena - Kiev region,Bukryn, 17.08.96, to the light
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Issyk-Kul,Cholpon-ata,17.07.89

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This post was edited by svm2 - 11.09.2011 14: 57
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11.02.2008 9:53, Vlad Proklov

Some more Eublemminae
Calimma communimacula-Cherkasy region Smela, 31.07.74

This one, by the way, also has predatory caterpillars!

11.02.2008 10:52, gumenuk

I don't know if it's a topic, but I'm sure it's a small one.
Silvery scoop-Deltote bankiana
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the village of Khripan 31.05.2007 23: 28

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11.02.2008 10:57, gumenuk

Here's another small one.
Dark brown leafhopper-Protodeltote pygarga
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the village of Khripan 27.05.2007 22: 27

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11.02.2008 10:57, Vlad Proklov

I don't know if it's a topic, but I'm sure it's a small one.
Silvery scoop-Deltote bankiana
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the village of Khripan 31.05.2007 23: 28

Although it is in Noctuidae, but still let it be - I'd rather expand the subject smile.gif

11.02.2008 11:00, gumenuk

Also small. If it's not in the topic , I'll delete it.
Birch Dwarf silkworm scoop-Nola aerugula
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the village of Khripan 08.07.2007 22: 28

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11.02.2008 11:02, gumenuk

Although it is in Noctuidae, but still let it be - I'd rather expand the subject. smile.gif

What, now we will qualify by size? smile.gif I'm fine jump.gifwith it

11.02.2008 11:05, Vlad Proklov

In principle, I don't mind seeing all the small scoops here - but I would like to know how to change the topic...
The last three do not belong to the Erebidae.

11.02.2008 11:10, gumenuk

In principle, I don't mind seeing all the small scoops here - but I would like to know how to change the topic...
The last three do not belong to the Erebidae.

Then maybe it's better to delete it. After all, I got in out of ignorance. It is better to have a narrow topic.

11.02.2008 11:14, Vlad Proklov

Then maybe it's better to delete it. After all, I got in out of ignorance. It is better to have a narrow topic.

Tsk! How-so?! Am I a Democrat? smile.gif

I put the voting machine at the top - today at 18: 00 London time (21:00 Moscow time) I will do as the collective mind tells me smile.gif

I ask everyone interested to leave their vote.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 02/11/2008 11: 36

11.02.2008 11:17, gumenuk

Tsk! How-so?! Am I a Democrat? smile.gif

I put the voting machine at the top - today at 18: 00 in London, I will do as the collective mind tells me smile.gif

I ask everyone interested to leave their vote.

Then you need to decide on the maximum size.
I have a plant atlas. There they are distributed according to the color of the flowers. Very convenient. Maybe the scoop should be distributed according to the main color of the wings. Here is lafa for the uneducated smile.gif

11.02.2008 11:21, Vlad Proklov

Then you need to decide on the maximum size.
I have a plant atlas. There they are distributed according to the color of the flowers. Very convenient. Maybe the scoop should be distributed according to the main color of the wings. Here's a lafa for the uneducated smile.gif

No, it will be a complete mess then smile.gif
The problem is that not everyone has yet figured out which scoops belong to which of the new families.

11.02.2008 14:11, Svyatoslav Knyazev

Eublemma purpurina ([D. & S.], 1775)
Omsk region, Omsk district, June 15, 2007, on the light.
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11.02.2008 16:05, AntSkr

No, it will be a complete mess then smile.gif
The problem is that not everyone has yet figured out which scoops belong to which of the new families.

The fact is that in many sources Erebidae belong to scoops, for example, I have not yet seen a single site where they are separated into a separate family. Even in Fibiger's books about the European scoop, Erebidae refers to scoops.

11.02.2008 16:18, Vlad Proklov

The fact is that in many sources Erebidae belong to scoops, for example, I have not yet seen a single site where they are separated into a separate family. Even in Fibiger's books about the European scoop, Erebidae refers to scoops.

On the website of Vova / Okoem / Savchuk (babochki-kryma.narod.ru) he has already introduced a new system, since Z. F. Klyuchko and Sovok sorted it out in a recent book.

In general, most sites have been around for quite some time, and webmasters just haven't bothered to dig through all this yet. Many people will not bother, what can they do? You need to learn taxonomy all the same not by sites, but by reading serious works.

Fibiger also broke them down in his ravizia with Lafontaine from 2005 - just in 2005 and after only the 8th and 9th volumes of Noctuidae Europaeae were published, in which, according to the new system, Noctuidae s.str. are obtained. When the volume on barbels and the same eublemmas is published, it will say Erebidae smile.gif

11.02.2008 16:23, AntSkr

Yes, on babochki-kryma.narod.ru I saw it. But, for example, leps.it sometimes it changes the classification, doesn't it? In general, for what reasons were they separated from the sovok?

11.02.2008 16:29, Vlad Proklov

Yes, on babochki-kryma.narod.ru I saw it. But, for example, leps.it sometimes it changes the classification, doesn't it? In general, for what reasons were they separated from the sovok?

Well, if it changes - then it will change sometime.

In Erebidae, the so-called quadrifinoid scoops were placed-they have a developed M2 vein on the hind wings, they are similar in this respect to some other noctuoids-volnyankami, dippers, nolids. In Noctuidae, this vein is reduced, and in this they are close to the crested ones.
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11.02.2008 20:56, Vlad Proklov

Well , 57% were in favor of leaving other small scoops in this topic.

And for the future, I tied a knot for myself: perhaps it makes sense to create a list of views of the covered group of the desired region at the beginning of the topic, so that users post views from the agreed list-and the curator, for example, puts links to the corresponding posts in the list. Let's see -- and I'll change the name of this topic.

11.02.2008 21:01, AntSkr

Or maybe create 2 different themes? And then some may confuse the scoop from erebid.

11.02.2008 21:10, Vlad Proklov

Or maybe create 2 different themes? And then some may confuse the scoop from Erebid.

Don't -- even if it's already in one place. And then shuffle back and forth... Lists of scoops are still written for all families together, indicating "Noctuidae s. l." smile.gif

12.02.2008 6:02, Svyatoslav Knyazev

Well, since it's all together now, then here it is:
Pechipogo strigilata (Linnaeus, 1758)
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Simplicia rectalis (Eversmann, 1842)
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Phytometra viridaria (Clerck, 1759)
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Hypena rostralis (Linnaeus, 1758)
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Deltote uncula (Clerck, 1759)
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Emmelia trabealis (Scopoli, 1763)
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Trisateles emortualis ([Denis et Sschiffermuller], 1775)
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All from the Omsk region.
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12.02.2008 11:19, Сергей-Д

Tarachidia candefacta-ragweed scooper. Imported to us from Canada, seems to be well acclimatized, the last 2 years is not uncommon.
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and if I'm not mistaken in my definition then a couple more erebids:
Herminia tarsicrinalis
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Polypogon strigilata
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19.02.2008 12:02, Сергей-Д

no one has a photo not quite small but scoops Craniophora pontica?

23.02.2008 12:09, NicoSander

I don't think there were any such ishshos smile.gif

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23.02.2008 13:54, Svyatoslav Knyazev

I don't think there were any such ishshos smile.gif

only these are far from small!..

23.02.2008 18:24, Vlad Proklov

I don't think there were any such ishshos smile.gif

The images are good and I don't want to delete them -- but next time, please read the topic name smile.gif

And the first one from where?

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