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Zygaenidae. Binta clothrata

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palvasru4ko, 09.10.2009 17:34

page for Pestryanki.

This post was edited by palvasru4ko - 15.07.2010 18: 15

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09.10.2009 18:17, barry

Is this the Crimean one?

09.10.2009 19:07, evk

Well, I'll also ask. What kind of view? I can't think straight

Volgograd region, border of Dubovsky and Olkhovsky districts, cretaceous gullies 5 km From Polunino village, 13.06.2008.

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09.10.2009 20:01, gumenuk

Look at mine, too. Probably something banal, since it was shot on the territory of the Moscow region (Ramenskiy district, Khripan).

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09.10.2009 20:15, Vlad Proklov

Well, I'll also ask. What kind of view? I can't think straight
Volgograd region, border of Dubovsky and Olkhovsky districts, cretaceous gullies 5 km from Polunino village, 13.06.2008.

Zygaena centaureae/cynarae

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09.10.2009 20:16, Vlad Proklov

Look at mine, too. Probably something banal, since it was shot on the territory of the Moscow region (Ramenskiy district, Khripan).

Zygaena lonicerae

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09.10.2009 20:17, okoem

evk
Zygaena loti

gumenuk
Zygaena lonicerae

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09.10.2009 20:37, evk

Zygaena centaureae/cynarae

evk
Zygaena loti

So where do we come to?

09.10.2009 20:50, Papaver

Probably to the fact that the plant under your mottled mottle, judging by the visible seeds and part of the wrapper , is nagolovatka Jurinea sp. (most likely J. ledebourii Bunge)...

This post was edited by Papaver - 09.10.2009 20: 56

09.10.2009 21:11, okoem

So where do we come to?

I don't know about centaureae.
But in cynarae, as far as I can tell, the fifth spot is rounded. And loti's is elongated, just like in the photo. In general, I will not say, but I bet on loti.

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09.10.2009 21:21, barko

Zygaena (Zygaena) exulans (Hohenwarth, 1792) Switzerland, ~2400m, August

If I'm not mistaken the only motley bird with such a shaggy abdomen

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10.10.2009 7:17, evk

Probably to the fact that the plant under your mottled mottle, judging by the visible seeds and part of the wrapper , is nagolovatka Jurinea sp. (most likely J. ledebourii Bunge)...

Well, there is rather Jurinea cretacea - the most popular species in our cretaceous mountains

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/item/21368.html

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10.10.2009 7:53, evk

I don't know about centaureae.
But in cynarae, as far as I can tell, the fifth spot is rounded. And loti's is elongated, just like in the photo. In general, I will not say, but I bet on loti.

Just for the types proposed by kotbegemot, the shape of the spots is exactly the same as in the picture, but loti does not fit very well. I'm leaning towards Zygaena centaureae myself - http://www.redbook73.ru/docs/02-2-2-055.php
Judging by what was found - a rare East European-Kazakh steppe species. I didn't find anything like this before and, of course, I would have collected it, but she successfully escaped after the picture, leaving a "photo for memory"

10.10.2009 8:47, Papaver

Well, there is rather Jurinea cretacea - the most popular species in our cretaceous mountains
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/item/21368.html

Yes, they can not be distinguished even by herbarium material...

So I think I didn't miss.

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10.10.2009 9:08, okoem

http://www.redbook73.ru/docs/02-2-2-055.php

The butterfly on this link has a different shape of spots of spots than yours. In yours, the first spot is elongated along the costal edge, and the fifth+sixth form an " arc " curved towards the apex. In the butterfly on the link, the " arc " is curved towards the root.
Loti in the Crimea among the red mottled almost the most banal view, in your photo on the appearance of a typical Crimean loti.

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10.10.2009 9:31, evk

The butterfly on this link has a different shape of spots of spots than yours. In yours, the first spot is elongated along the costal edge, and the fifth+sixth form an " arc " curved towards the apex. In the butterfly on the link, the " arc " is curved towards the root.
Loti in the Crimea among the red mottled birds is almost the most banal view, in your photo, it looks like a typical Crimean loti.

Almost convinced

10.10.2009 9:33, evk

Yes, they can not be distinguished even by herbarium material...
So I think I didn't miss.

Well in my pictures in the Plantarium is not amateur

There are competent florists regional defined

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10.10.2009 9:47, Papaver

Yes, I see...
Were they determined by herbarium material or photos?

10.10.2009 10:05, okoem

Almost convinced

You can also compare
cynarae here http://www.lepidoptera.pl/show.php?ID=227&country=XX
loti http://www.lepidoptera.pl/show.php?ID=219&country=XX

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10.10.2009 10:13, Vlad Proklov

Okoem is right after all -- this is loti.

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10.10.2009 13:28, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well, I can't resist. A couple of the most banal pestryanki in the Moscow region:
Zygaena (Zygaena) lonicerae Scheven, 1777.

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10.10.2009 17:41, evk

Yes, I see...
Were they determined by herbarium material or photos?

Based on the originals of plants directly in place in nature and, subsequently, confirmed by herbarium material
(this was a joint expedition - I studied insects and took pictures of plants along the way).

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10.10.2009 17:46, evk

Okoem is right, after all-it's loti.

This is what it means to engage in a certain group

Of beetles, especially ground beetles, I can see the smallest external differences right away. And butterflies, until they "poke their nose" at the obvious differences - I don't see

them In fact, this is how it should be - you can't embrace the vast

)
But I really want to ...

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11.10.2009 8:14, okoem

This is what it means to engage in a specific group

Pestrianki is one of my favorite bands.

Zygaena sedi Fabricius, 1787
June 9, 2009, Crimea, Koktebel, Karadag.

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11.10.2009 8:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

A male of an inconspicuous "Sorrel mottle" in nature from the Moscow region.
Adscita (Adscita) statices Linnaeus, 1758.

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11.10.2009 9:24, evk

Pestrianki is one of my favorite bands.

Well, if so , you'll have to load it with your favorite work

Volgograd region, Kotovsky district, Popki village district, 15.06.2008.
Defined as Zygaena sedi.
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Volgograd region, Kumylzhensky district, Bolshaya Fominykh gully, 18.06.2006.
Zygaena sp.
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11.10.2009 9:28, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well, if so , you'll have to load it with your favorite work
Volgograd region, Kumylzhensky district, Bolshaya Fominykh gully, 18.06.2006.
Zygaena sp.

Apparently it is: Z. osterodensis? (I'm not sure).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 11.10.2009 09: 29

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11.10.2009 9:46, Pavel Morozov

Zygaena minos (Denis & Schiffermuller, 1775).
Vladimir region, Selivanovsky district, Ivonino village. 30.06.2007.

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11.10.2009 11:13, barko

Zygaena carniolica (Scopoli, 1763) Hungary, early July

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Zygaena (Mesembrynus) purpuralis (Brunnich, 1763)

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Zygaena (Zygaena) ephialtes (Linnaeus, 1767)

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11.10.2009 14:40, okoem

Apparently it is: Z. osterodensis? (I'm not sure).

Very likely.

Brood Theresimima ampellophaga (Bayle-Barelle, 1808)
Caterpillar found on May 1, 2009, Crimea, Sudak, Perchem.

This post was edited by okoem - 11.10.2009 14: 43

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11.10.2009 18:00, okoem

Female Zygaena dorycnii kertshensis (Obraztsov, 1935) on privet flowers.
June 10, 2009, Crimea, green spaces of Shchelkino.

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11.10.2009 19:08, Egorus

Another pairing is Zygaena sp.
(Ukraine, Western region, June 14, 2009)
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11.10.2009 20:05, Papaver

Another pairing is Zygaena sp.
(Ukraine, Western region, June 14, 2009)

2 Okoem:
Zygaena loti ?

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11.10.2009 21:38, okoem

2 Okoem:
Zygaena loti ?

Typical, IMHO.

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13.10.2009 10:47, Сергей-Д

Comrades! Does anyone know anything about mottled Binta clothrata? Here is a photo of the HOLOTYPE. No other copies were found in museums. For any information (including reliable copies) - thank you!!!

I wonder if Mr. K. A. Efetov can help you in Simferopol?

The most common Zygaena filipendulae, Severodonetsk
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The aforementioned Zygaena cantaureae, Severodonetsk
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Zygaena loti from different points of the Luhansk region (mostly cretaceous)
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13.10.2009 11:25, okoem

The most common Zygaena filipendulae, Severodonetsk

And what is the caterpillar sitting on?

13.10.2009 14:50, Сергей-Д

I don't remember any more, I could have transplanted it if the focus wasn't caught. If it's unnatural , then I'll post others:
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This post was edited by Sergey-D-13.10.2009 14: 56

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13.10.2009 17:02, okoem

Adscita geryon (Hubner, 1813)
June 21, 2008 North-western slope of Babugan yayla, h=1400m.

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14.10.2009 18:26, okoem

"The most common Zygaena filipendulae"
And in my opinion, this is the caterpillar Zygaena loti.

But perhaps it is true that all caterpillars are loti.
In addition to the above, loti has a greenish background, which is exactly the background of almost all the caterpillars in the pictures. The background of filipendulae is yellow.

UPDATE

On the other hand, the cocoon clearly belongs to the filipendulae, but the caterpillar has no lateral spots inside it... So I don't even know...

This post was edited by okoem - 10/14/2009 18: 30

14.10.2009 21:36, okoem

Or maybe it's a cocoon of Zygaena ephialtes? Although, he also seems to have spots under his spiracles... yes... Some kind of MUTANT!!!

Some of the caterpillars may be ephialtes, but the cocoon-in my opinion, it is filipendulae-is the same shape and two-colored.
In general, as I understand it, the caterpillars of red mottles are quite variable. I judge by the caterpillars of Zygaena carniolica - it has black color elements that range from completely reduced to very noticeable.

This post was edited by okoem - 10/14/2009 21: 38

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