13th, Friday, full moon... it's started!

No, you guys are wrong... These are EPS, not magnetic fields

Uv. Damkin, and the so-called "torsion fields" are somehow sideways related to the "dynamics of gravitational-magnetic fields"?

Oh, not the PPG

Dear Damkin, just as a physicist, I can't help but wonder-contrary to what laws of aerodynamics, beetles are not capable of flight?

Well, you have a discussion here. I came in by accident and almost had my hair on end!!!

I found an article about torsion fields in the "storerooms".

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Torsion myths

A. V. Byalko, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, Institute of Theoretical Physics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, journal "Nature"

In the press there are statements about the existence of certain "torsion fields" with striking properties that do not fit into the framework of generally accepted physical theory. The authors of the hypothesis promise a giant breakthrough in technology, physics,and energy. However, familiarization with the theoretical foundations and some experiments reveals the complete scientific failure of the authors of the torsion hypothesis.

It is a well - known psychological fact that people are more susceptible to pseudoscientific ideas in times of troubles. The publication of articles on such topics in respectable, but far from scientific publications is unfortunate, and yet understandable. However, when such arguments get into the pages of scientific and popular science literature, it is alarming, because the false concept seems to receive a blessing from specialists. Thus, the press continues to publish statements about the existence of certain torsion fields with properties that allegedly do not fit into the framework of a generally accepted physical theory.

First of all, let's explain the terminology. In the phrase "torsion fields", which will be discussed, there is nothing mysterious or inexplicable. " Torsion "(in French, twisting) comes from the Latin "tor quere", meaning "twist". Mathematically, a field is a region of space in which the distribution of a vector or tensor is specified. In physics, field theory refers to the description of vector fields that transmit forces, or in general some effects in space and time. The term "torsion field" is used infrequently, but its meaning is clear: it is a certain physical quantity distributed in space that describes torsional forces.

Do torsion fields exist in nature? Yes, absolutely. For example, by tightening a nut, you create a torsion field of stresses in the screw. Are torsion fields transmitted over distances, and do torsion waves and particles exist? The answer is also positive, and the examples are diverse. Such is, for example, electromagnetic radiation with circular polarization[1]. It is not difficult to obtain or observe it in different wavelength ranges (even sunlight, especially coming from sunspots, is partially circularly polarized). Gravitational waves predicted by field theory, but so far having only indirect experimental confirmation, must also carry torsional stresses in space. The propagation of neutrinos, particles that have a spin (but very rarely transmit it to the medium), is described by a tensor field with off-diagonal or, if you prefer, torsion components. In general, any particle with spin (internal rotation), including ordinary electrons, can be used to create a beam polarized in the direction of propagation or against it. Of course, such a beam carries torsion in space, and in this sense it is a manifestation of torsion fields.

However, recently the term "torsion fields" has been used in a completely different context. A group of authors declared themselves discoverers of a new type of interaction, unknown in physics, which manifests itself in the transfer of torsional stresses over a distance. They are presented as employees of a certain International Institute of Theoretical and Applied Physics of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences( RANS), as well as employees of the Inter-branch Scientific and Technical Center for Venture and Non-Traditional Technologies (ISTC VENT). It should be noted, however, that at the meeting of the Physics Section of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences in March 1998, after the report of the heads of the "International Institute", a resolution was adopted noting the "failure of the scientific justification of the research" conducted in it. The Physics Section "does not consider it possible for this institute to exist under the auspices of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences".

Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences E. P. Kruglikov also criticized the entire range of ideas of the "torsionists" - unfortunately, in newspapers, and not in the scientific press. Newspapers, with a few exceptions, are not very competent in scientific matters, and newspaper polemics are of little use in elucidating the truth.

Unfortunately, the review article of the leading adherents of the" doctrine " on torsion fields was published by one of the academic popular science journals[2]. Since in the year and a half that has passed since its publication, it has not received any critical responses on this topic, "Nature" is forced to express its opinion.

So, what are torsion fields from the point of view of the five authors? We quote from the article and comment on it.

"If gravitational fields are generated by mass, and electromagnetic fields are generated by charges, then torsion fields are generated by classical spin, which is a quantum analog of angular momentum."

This phrase is physically illiterate: there is no "classical spin", spin is a fundamentally quantum and relativistic concept. However, since it says "quantum analog", there is simply no specific content in this statement, there is only one goal-to leave the reader in the dark: whether the authors accept the conclusions of quantum mechanics or not. If they do, then we must recognize that the spin-spin interaction (more often called exchange interaction) is a deeply developed branch of quantum mechanics, and all theoretical chemistry is based on it. But this interaction is short-range, and the spin-carrying particle itself must be transferred to propagate it.

From the following discussion, however, it follows that the authors do not need either theoretical physics or just logic at all.

"For a long time, it was assumed that the constant of spin-torsion interactions, which serves as an indicator of their strength, was estimated at no more than 10-66."

This is misleading the reader. There is no such constant, no such estimates in quantum mechanics. However, already through the phrase, the reader is informed that "there are no restrictions on the value of the constant of spin-torsion interactions. If the constant becomes very large, then torsion phenomena are visible." So it turns out that the authors understand the concept of "constant", i.e. constant, in the sense that only they know, if they want - it will grow without restrictions, to infinity.

In their article, the authors constantly express mutually exclusive positions. First we learn that " the energy and momentum of the torsion field are zero. A torsion field transfers information without transferring energy." This is followed by: "... the quanta of the torsion field are low-energy relic neutrinos." It is well known that neutrinos of any type have energy, momentum, and angular momentum, and propagate at the speed of light. In addition, it is impossible to transfer information with the help of relict particles (i.e., those formed shortly after the Big Bang) - there are so many of them, they do not carry anything new. It is further stated that "the group velocity of torsion waves is not less than 109 times the speed of light" - so we have another "constant that becomes very large", according to only speculative statements of the authors. By the way, the group velocity is the rate of energy transfer in the wave process, and torsion fields, according to the authors, have no energy at all.

The authors say: "Natural environments do not absorb torsion radiation." In other words, there is no interaction between radiation and the environment. However, at the same time, the authors claim that the radiation of torsion waves is not difficult to detect. It turns out that the radiation receivers contain something that is not the natural environment. It doesn't happen that way. These are not differences with generally accepted physics - they are the lack of elementary logic and scientific illiteracy.

One could go on with this list of absurdities, but it is clear that there is no basis for a theoretical argument. But maybe the authors, without having theoretical training and recognized scientific qualifications, still managed to experimentally discover an effect unknown to science? Is there any factual basis for their radical statements?

It is claimed that torsion field generators have been created. This is one of the few statements of the authors, if not close to the truth, then at least realistic. The authors don't say how their generators work, but it's not hard to imagine how to make them from commercially available household appliances. Take, for example, a radiotelephone, which is known to operate in the decimeter frequency band. We will connect a waveguide to its generator (for narrow radiation directivity) and place a metal spiral or spring in the waveguide with a pitch close to the wavelength. With the help of such a device, you can repeat some of the real experiments of the authors. Its radiation (of course, purely electromagnetic) does not pass through metal or conductive barriers, but it penetrates all the cracks, comparable in size to the wavelength , and this can easily be passed off as"exceptional penetrating power". This electromagnetic field is polarized in a circle, it really carries the angular momentum (i.e., if you like, this field is torsion), and this is not difficult to verify with the help of sensitive devices such as torsional scales. If desired, they can transmit information, which, however, is much more successfully done by its mother device-a radiotelephone.

All other properties cannot be proved by the authors. This also applies to the astronomical applications mentioned in the article by five authors. From the point of view of generally accepted scientific concepts, any "torsion" processing of photographs of the Earth from space or images of the Sun is meaningless, since chiral molecules (stereoisomers) do not participate in photographic processes. Moreover, these "results" contradict even the authors ' own ideas : it is impossible to obtain an image of the Earth in neutrino rays, since it is transparent to neutrinos. In all matters related to solar neutrinos, the reader should refer to the recent publications of "Nature"[3].

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In self-advertising sent to government agencies, the authors claim that using the torsion field generator they created, you can significantly change the properties of materials. For example, if in the process of making armor, the metal melt is affected by the field of a torsion generator, then the hardness of such armor allegedly increases several times. Or another example that was widely advertised two years ago. It was argued that if the copper crystallizing from the melt is exposed to a torsion generator, the electrical conductivity of the sample obtained in this way will be many times higher than that of the control copper samples. The authors of Otkritie appealed to the Russian Ministry of Science and Science and the Moscow Government with a request to allocate funds for the construction of an industrial installation, and then - a special plant for the industrial production of "torsion copper", naturally, with the promise of all future benefits from its implementation. According to their calculations, if the wires of Moscow trolleybuses and trams were replaced with this almost superconducting copper, up to half of Moscow's existing power plants could be closed.

About this sensational episode then its authors try not to remember. And why - read the protocol below. Note only that the test of this "effect" was carried out by outstanding experimental physicists from the P. L. Kapitsa Institute of Physical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Academician A. S. Borovik-Romanov and Professor N. V. Zavaritsky. Physicists with a capital letter, with an unquestionable authority for many generations of scientists-unfortunately, both of them are no longer with us.
. Literature.
1. See for example: V. S. Wolfson On the moment of the quantity of motion of an electromagnetic field / / Uspekhi fiz. Nauk, 1987, vol. 152, issue 4, pp. 667-674.

2. Akimov A. E., Shipov G. I., Loginov A.V., Lomonosov M. N., Pugach A. F. Torsion fields of the Earth and the Universe. 1996. No. 6. pp. 9-17.

3. Kopylov A.V. The problem of solar neutrinos: from the past to the future. 1998. No. 5. pp. 31-40; No. 6. pp. 27-36.

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PROTOCOL FOR MEASURING THE ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE OF ISTC VENT COPPER SAMPLES . The following participants take part in the experiment:
1. A. S. Borovik-Romanov-Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Adviser to the Directorate of the P. L. Kapitsa Institute of Physics and Technology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Head of the Department of Low Temperature Physics of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Experimental and Theoretical Physics of the Russian Academy of Sciences;

2. Zavaritsky N. V.-Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, Professor, Chief Researcher of the Kapitsa Institute of Physics and Technology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Deputy Head of the Department of Low Temperature Physics of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology;

3. Maksarev R. Y.-representative of ISTC "VENT";

4. Zhotikov V. G.-Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, Chief Specialist of the Department of Fundamental Research of the Ministry of Science of the Russian Federation.

The purpose of the experiment: .
experimental verification of the" discovery "made by representatives of the ISTC" VENT "about a reduction of approximately 80 times the electrical resistance of copper samples obtained by solidification from a melt under conditions of their irradiation with so-called"torsion fields".
Samples and measurement methods .
The representative of ISTC "VENT" (Maksarev R. Yu.) offers for measurements 2 control samples of copper obtained, according to him, under different conditions of solidification of copper from the melt. One of these samples was exposed to torsion fields during solidification. According to measurements made at the ISTC "VENT", the resistance of this sample was 80 times less than that of the second sample, which was not exposed to these fields.

Sample No. 1 (was irradiated with "torsion fields") is a parallelepiped with dimensions: length L=18 mm; width d=5 mm; height h=1 mm.

Sample No. 2 (not exposed to torsion fields) is a parallelepiped with dimensions: length L=11 mm; width d=1.5 mm; height h=1.5 mm.

Borovik-Romanov A. S. informs that the Ministry of Science of the Russian Federation has asked the Kapitsa Institute of Physics and Technology of the Russian Academy of Sciences to confirm or refute the so-called "copper superconductivity effect", which allegedly occurs after the impact of certain "X-rays"on the copper melt. It is claimed that the electrical conductivity of such copper increases by almost 80 times. This is a revolution in electrical engineering, but something is wrong here.

Zavaritsky N. V. asks a question about how the measurements were performed.

Maksarev R. Y. reports that the measurements were carried out using a standard resistance magazine and a universal ampervoltmeter. Provides details of measurements performed at ISTC VENT.

Zavaritsky N. V. (can't help laughing) says that any 3rd-year student of the Physics and Technology Department knows that it is impossible to measure the electrical resistance of copper correctly in this way, since the specific resistance of copper is small. It is necessary to use a four-point measurement scheme with separate current and potential ends (draws a measurement scheme on the board).

It turns out that Maksarev R. Y. is not familiar with the concept of resistivity, although, as is known, all reference books on physics provide tables of values for metals and alloys of this value, since it is the true physical characteristic of the sample.

Zavaritsky N. V. declares that the question is absolutely clear, there is no point in wasting time on this nonsense and suggests going to drink coffee.

Borovik-Romanov A. S. and Zhotikov V. G. share the opinion of Zavaritsky N. V., but ask him to make the necessary measurements.

Zavaritsky N. V. agrees and demands that Zhotikov V. G. remember his youth spent at the Kapitsa Institute of Physics and Technology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and perform the necessary preparatory soldering work, as well as keep a measurement protocol.

V. G. Zhotikov takes N. V. Zavaritsky's micro-soldering iron and, under his supervision, solders current and potential ends to samples No. 1 and No. 2.

Zavaritsky N. V. reports that Zhotikov V. G., working in the Ministry of Science, did not forget how to solder well.

Experiment.
Soldering is completed, and samples No. 1 and No. 2 are inserted in turn into the experimental setup of N. V. Zavaritsky for measuring small values of resistances. Current values I are measured at different values of the voltage U applied to the samples. Participants in the experiment make sure that the Ohm's law is met for the specified samples.
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For sample # 1, the following values were measured::
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at a voltage U=0.15 mV, the current through the sample is I=200 mA, hence the resistance
. R = U/I=7. 5x10-4 ohms;.
resistivity of this sample
. r1 = Rdh/L = (2.08+/-0.02) x10-5 ohms. see .
For sample # 2, the following values were measured::
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at a voltage U=0.30 mV, the current through the sample is I=300 mA, hence the resistance
. R = U/I = 1. 00x10-3 ohms .
resistivity of this sample
. r2 = Rdh/L = (2.05+/-0.02)x10-5 ohms.see
Discussion of the results obtained .
Based on the results obtained, three participants of the experiment conclude that the statement of the representative of ISTC "VENT" about the difference in 80 times the electrical resistances of "irradiated" and "not irradiated" by the so-called "torsion fields" of copper samples was NOT experimentally confirmed.

Borovik-Romanov A. S. and Zavaritsky N. V. say: this became clear immediately after the representative of ISTC "VENT" reported on the method of measuring this "effect"used in this organization.

Zavaritsky N. V. (takes out a reference book on physics from the bookshelf) reads out the tabular value of the resistivity of pure copper at room temperature t = 20oC, r = 1. 7x10-6 ohms. see Referring to Maksarev I. Yu., says that the conductivity of copper in the samples presented by ISTC "VENT", at the order is worse than the values listed in the reference books. Turns to V. G. Zhotikov and asks, what are we going to do?

V. G. Zhotikov says that the Nobel Prize on this issue will have to wait for now. The results will be reported to the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Science and Science.

(All are silent)

Maksarev R. Y. says that the room is very stuffy and asks permission to leave it. He leaves.

Borovik-Romanov A. S. asks Zhotikov V. G. to write everything down as fully as possible and suggests that everyone go to drink coffee.

(This is where the experiment ends) The protocol was conducted

________________________________________V. G. Zhotikov.

The protocol was approved by the Head of the Department of Basic Research of the Ministry of Science of the Russian Federation

____________________________________________V. V. Rumyantsev

They sent me this creative recently.
I thought about where to put it and decided not to start a new topic, but to post it in this one (not exactly in the topic, but next to it).
So, meet us:

MUKHA-TSOKOTUKHA-SATANIC ENTOMOLOGY
(The experience of studying a famous literary work from an unusual point of view)

P.S. Especially for militant Christians-please do not strain yourself, because the text has only a comic orientation and is not aimed at insulting the feelings of believers.

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for the text has only a humorous orientation and is not aimed at insulting the feelings of believers.

I don't think this piece is a joke

I didn't think this piece was a joke

Did they really take it seriously?

Here it is important to understand what the author wanted to say. It doesn't sound like outright banter, but it's also a farce. I'm not saying that everything written is correct, but it seemed to me that the author pursued slightly different goals than just smearing the paper...

Hm... I got exactly the opposite impression. The very choice of the work itself leads to the fact that it is still a farce. And you can fit anything to anything. And the entomological part is lame, although it is above the philistine level. IMHO, you shouldn't take this so seriously.

More like the delirium of a madman And who is the author, if not a secret?

This post was edited by Ekos-05/04/2008 07: 08

Yes, the interpretation of a children's ridiculous fairy tale is tin.
No, well, I understand the parallels between the fairy tale about the cockroach and the tyrant-Stalin, but here-well, finally!

Hm... I got exactly the opposite impression.

In general, this Masson hysteria about how the power was seized by representatives of a secret society, who are only engaged in encrypting curses in children's fairy tales and branding young people with demonic signs, is not new. But this is not banter, this is an obvious provocation designed to intimidate the poor philistine, to make him think that the terrible and evil surrounded him from childhood. It seeped into his soul through television and newspapers, got into his body through genetically modified foods, food additives and other light-cooked products, destroyed and corrupted his spirit from birth. so it's definitely not goblin-translated banter.
But whether to believe it or not, that's the question. There is some rational grain in this. And the propaganda coming through the mass media affects us, as well as genetically modified products and dietary supplements. Well, to believe that Chukovsky was an agent of the forces of evil... You can also believe that Lenin and Hitler were aliens who wanted to seize absolute power . I don't believe it. But I believe that in strong countries there will always be a group of people who want to establish world domination. And then the question arises, why don't they agree and put all of us in the pose of zyu?
As for the piece itself, I wasn't too impressed with it. Very much a fit. And in the USSR, as far as I know, demonic moods were not so strong. But if a children's fairy tale of the Third Reich was analyzed in this way, I would not be surprised. Hitler even rewrote the Bible, and in general was a fan of all the occult, and we did not accept this. Although many people hold parallels with Bulgakov, but this is rather an isolated case. And of course no government order.

Ai-wai, what horrors! And such fairy tales are read to children!

I was only pleased that the cockroaches turned out to be "passive accomplices", they refused to fight for the" whore of Babylon", having deserted from the troops of Satan in time. in this regard, you can apply to the Holy Tribunal for leniency.

But this is not banter, this is an obvious provocation designed to intimidate the poor philistine, to make him think that the terrible and evil surrounded him from childhood.

IMHO, rather the author himself is a victim (and distributor) of such hysteria.

And then the question arises, why don't they agree and put all of us in the pose of zyu?

Aren't we already in this position? Look around you - how many percent of people can think independently of the cliches that are firmly embedded in their minds?

And in the USSR, as far as I know, demonic moods were not so strong. But if a children's fairy tale of the Third Reich was analyzed in this way, I would not be surprised. Hitler even rewrote the Bible, and in general was a fan of all the occult, and we did not accept this. Although many people hold parallels with Bulgakov, but this is rather an isolated case. And of course, no government order.

IMHO, a very controversial statement. Even at the level of well-known symbolism, occultism is very clearly visible. However, this clearing is so polluted by "whistleblowers" and " fighters against ... "(like the author of Satanic entomology) that I don't want to discuss it. Moreover, this is definitely beyond the scope of entomology.

No, well, I've certainly heard about Masson hysteria, which, by the way, is now particularly acute due to the pedigree of the president-elect. But also here... However, Mr. Dormidont, your theory seems quite plausible. Knowing the quirks of our people, it is quite possible to assume that this is really serious.
The author is unknown to me. The friend who sent me this opus thought it was funny( not serious), and it is far from entomology. Apparently, it was found on the Internet.
In general, everyone takes the text as they see fit. I found it far-fetched, but an interesting farce. Much more interesting than pseudo-realistic descriptions of "strangers".

I would just delete this stuff, so as not to confuse people.

Yes, I don't want to play to the point where such a science as entomology would be associated with all sorts of horror movies. No, I'm not a fan of this, definitely not.

Author-Konstantin Preobrazhenskiy

And what kind of character is this, and if you are so knowledgeable, would you like to tell the forum what prompted Mr. Preobrazhensky to write this controversial work that has been tormenting the minds of innocent citizens for several days?

But I believe that in strong countries there will always be a group of people who want to establish world domination. And then the question arises, why don't they agree and put all of us in the pose of zyu?

Your faith is not groundless
Smart guys from the State Department have already put everyone in this very position, or are trying to put them in it.

Oh, if it was just the State Department, I would be very happy about it. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the State Department is not alone in this endeavor, oh, how not alone...

And what kind of character is this, and if you are so knowledgeable, would you like to tell the forum what prompted Mr. Preobrazhensky to write this controversial work that has been tormenting the minds of innocent citizens for several days?

I entered the first phrase in Google and it gave me the same text with the author...

Oh, if it was just the State Department, I would be very happy about it. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the State Department is not alone in this endeavor, oh, how not alone...

Not alone, of course, but only the State Department can really do it.

I entered the first phrase in Google and it gave me the same text with the author...

Yeah, thanks, I didn't even think about Googling it. Entered it and found it. And once again I was convinced that I was right. This is not banter, this is a provocation citizens of the forum, it is a provocation!!!

I'm not alone, of course, but only the State Department really does it.

You don't like the State Department, I don't like the State Department, the State Department doesn't like all of us. Well, at least the feeling is mutual . Let's not get into politics, gentlemen. It's not a thank-you thing. Let's start with our entomological topic.

In my opinion, an awesome, funny piece. The author clearly wanted to laugh and make fun of the supposedly "scientific" study of children's works by the Bible. and he succeeded
To Bolivar +1

I would just delete this stuff, so as not to confuse people.

oh, these entomologists, it's easy to confuse them...
I think anyone who doesn't want to just won't watch

Yeah, thanks, I didn't even think about Googling it. Entered it and found it. And once again I was convinced that I was right. This is not banter, this is a provocation citizens of the forum, it is a provocation!!!

Yes, the author is clearly not himself. It's a pity that it's serious, otherwise it looks better from the side of banter...

You don't like the State Department, I don't like the State Department, the State Department doesn't like all of us. Well, at least the feeling is mutual . Let's not get into politics, gentlemen. It's not a thank-you thing. Let's start with our entomological topic.

and that's right!

In my opinion, an awesome, funny piece. The author clearly wanted to laugh and make fun of the supposedly "scientific" study of children's works by the Bible. and he succeeded
Bolivar +1

I was sure you would understand me

Mdaa... Isn't there a similar analysis of the fairy tale "Cockroach"? This is generally Armageddon in its purest form. Or this one:

"..suddenly from my mother's bedroom bow-legged and lame...
And where is Dad looking?. Or he has no eyes at all.. "- or is it wrong?

I'm afraid to even imagine what the true meaning of this fairy tale is... ))

This post was edited by Fornax13-05.05.2008 00: 15

It seems to me that this is far from the first time that this fairy tale and Chukovsky in general have been hit. Only earlier they were accused of anti-Sovietism and glorification of pests and parasites, and now they have sunk to Satanism. Or maybe it only says what it says? "She was so used to reading between the lines that she read even what wasn't there" (B. Stern)

It seems to me that this is far from the first time that this fairy tale and Chukovsky in general have been hit. Only earlier they were accused of anti-Sovietism and glorification of pests and parasites, and now they have sunk to Satanism. Or maybe it only says what it says? "She was so used to reading between the lines that she read even what wasn't there" (B. Stern)

I immediately remembered Galygin's miniature "Interview with K. Chukovsky"

- I don't want to look like a "spammer", but my friend an amateur entomologist from the village of Borisoglebsky, Voronezh region, has been swearing for several years and claims that he caught a BLUE Rhino several times in his forest!!! colors! "I don't want to argue with him. - Answer, simply, monosyllabically - is it all "p.... b"?

- I don't want to look like a "spammer", but my friend an amateur entomologist from the village of Borisoglebsky, Voronezh region, has been swearing for several years and claims that he caught a BLUE Rhino several times in his forest!!! colors! "I don't want to argue with him. - Answer, simply, monosyllabically-is it all "p..... b"?

At the risk of being called a "spammer", I will assume: maybe your friend is colorblind?

So you tell him you've seen green rhinos

- I don't want to look like a "spammer", but my friend an amateur entomologist from the village of Borisoglebsky, Voronezh region, has been swearing for several years and claims that he caught a BLUE Rhino several times in his forest!!! colors! "I don't want to argue with him. - Answer, simply, monosyllabically-is it all "p..... b"?

One citizen regularly sees devils in our entrance hall He is not even afraid of them anymore and talks to them

We have one citizen in the entrance regularly sees devils He is not even afraid of them anymore and talks to them

It looks like a few more similar posts, and the topic about the rhino beetle will be smoothly associated with the "Flood about mermaids"

It seems that a few more similar posts, and the topic of the rhino beetle will be smoothly associated with the "Flood about mermaids"

At the root you see!

"Do you know where you can buy truth serum?" (other than the bird market)?
- By the way, - some "discoveries" were just made contrary to the established opinion; - take at least the Aristotelian, which lasted 2000 years, four-legged fly, or the discovery of America by a Flower bed....