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Could one fake a butterfly?

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Dracus, 02.05.2006 19:47

Do you think it is possible to fake a butterfly with the current development of technology? At least all external morphological features (without genitalia)?

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03.05.2006 8:21, Nilson

In my opinion, it is possible even without technology - with Chinese ingenuity smile.gif
It is possible to glue a butterfly together from different parts. In principle, you can probably even attach scales in some kind of electric field, or something like that.

03.05.2006 11:00, sealor

Everything is relative. Depending on how to check the authenticity, if they look through a cloudy glass and 5 meters away, then you can also put the drawn one. And if you look under a magnifying glass, and the structure of scales under a microscope-then here the number will not pass.. Well, if even under the microscope....

03.05.2006 11:01, Dmitry Vlasov

In quite a long time, our studios, in order to "annoy" the boring teacher in the practice of invertebrates, glued together a "monster" of urticaria and peacock's eye. We took a relatively large copy. hives and pasted in his hind wings from a small copy of the peacock's eye. Type-hybrid. So the teacher spent two hours looking at it under binoculars, until he saw traces of glue on the breast.
And now with the latest technologies...
By the way, my relative was in Malaysia (back in Soviet times), they were taken to a factory for making souvenirs from beetles and butterflies. So according to his stories-the aborigines are engaged in the factory about what our students did.

03.05.2006 11:52, Dracus

But is it possible to fake a real view with such an "assembly"? It seems to me that because of the huge interspecific differences in the pattern of most butterflies, you can only collect something fantastic from two different species...
What about a completely artificial fake? For example, I really want to listen to those who held the products of Nadezhda Rudenko in their hands:
http://artschool.agava.ru/gallery/rudenko/index.html
How much do these souvenirs differ from the originals? Is a fake immediately recognized at a glance?

03.05.2006 15:40, Nilson

I looked at the link - just awesome! But these butterflies are quite big. When I draw it myself, I do it on a scale of 2: 1...10:1, and then I reduce it - and it looks good.

03.05.2006 15:44, Proctos

But inclusions in amber are forged as much as you like. Starting from the banal epoxy and ending with the remelting of natural amber. and the latter are of very high quality. Sometimes a fake is passed off as a modern (in the historical sense) amber-copal, for example, from Madagascar.

03.05.2006 21:55, Tigran Oganesov

But inclusions in amber are forged as much as you like. Starting from the banal epoxy and ending with the remelting of natural amber. and the latter are of very high quality. Sometimes a fake is passed off as a modern (in the historical sense) amber-copal, for example, from Madagascar.

About this - here

03.12.2009 18:23, Таланцев Алексей

There is a hybrid of O. rothschildi and O. priamus poseidon. The name of THE BIRDWING is akakeae
Island. As far as I know, Baron Rothschild also bred in captivity. Nothing came out of anyone's eggs... And so, today we have one
single male. I have this photo. The female was never bred.
I decided to experiment in Photoshop and "created" a female (in the photo, of course). I turned on my imagination and put part of the drawing of O. priamus poseidon (a gynandromorph, besides) on the photo of the female O. rothschildi... A little
"played around" with the color and shape of the picture... and here it is-a photo of a virtual female.
Likes: 1

03.12.2009 18:53, Алексей Таланцев

I wasn't going to thank myself... I wanted to insert a photo... I don't understand how this is done...

03.12.2009 19:06, Victor Titov

I wasn't going to thank myself... I wanted to insert a photo... I don't understand how this is done...

You need to enter the "advanced form" menu (to the left of the message text window), and there - as usual: click on "browse", select the file to attach, then click on "attach this file". Only the photo, if you are going to insert it directly into the text of the message, it is better to reduce the size (well, at least up to 800 x 600).

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 03.12.2009 19: 08

04.12.2009 3:43, guest: Dmitrich

and where is the review?.. pressed prev. viewing... then where to click... There is no
UPLOAD PHOTO... or ADD PHOTO button anywhere... Just emoticons...

04.12.2009 9:46, Tigran Oganesov

Read more FAQ

04.12.2009 11:31, Victor Titov

and where is the review?.. pressed prev. viewing... then where to click... There is no
UPLOAD PHOTO... or ADD PHOTO button anywhere... Just emoticons...

Dear Alexey Talantsev, why is your post something on my behalf? confused.gif
Look carefullywall.gif! When you enter the extended form, there is a "browse" button under the window for entering the message text, and next to it - "attach this file". What's so hard?! no.gif

04.12.2009 16:13, Guest

Excuse me... So it is that there is no BROWSE button. Here only the message size is max. size: digit (apparently the number of characters I wrote
and separated by a fraction the number 15360. Attach this file - also no...
There is nothing... So I want to talk to my colleagues, but always bad luck... either something is
buggy and hangs, or you can't figure it out at all. The technique is afraid of me (and apparently it's mutual)... On Odnoklassniki and on My world I learned (with grief in half), but here... DARK FOREST...

04.12.2009 16:39, Алексей Таланцев

appeared... some kind of miracle... I'm not crazy yet... Never had it before, I SWEAR!

Pictures:
picture: _________1_______HYBRID_1_.JPG
_________1_______HYBRID_1_.JPG — (36.29к)

_________2_______NATURA_1.JPG
_________2_______NATURA_1.JPG — (58.33к)

04.12.2009 17:39, Papaver

- Can you fake a butterfly?
"Hmm.".. What if there's nothing else to spend your time on?

This post was edited by Papaver - 04.12.2009 17: 39
Likes: 3

11.12.2009 10:25, Penzyak

Hello everyone
In our region in the summer (not infrequently!?) we saw and caught live butterflies of fantastic colors in nature. It turned out that schoolboys catch, for example, hawthorn or cabbage and use colored markers to paint the wings of butterflies... That once I saw IT for the first time in nature, I was so surprised by the "unknown aberration" that calmly flew past me that I even forgot to catch it...
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14.12.2009 14:08, Yakovlev

Penza probably has very creative schoolboys

15.12.2009 17:33, Penzyak

Looks like. And another favorite feature they have - they write with the same marker type: SASHA + MASHA. Here it is modern education and where only the pioneers look important...

15.12.2009 20:45, Штучка

  
What about a completely artificial fake? For example, I really want to listen to those who held the products of Nadezhda Rudenko in their hands:
http://artschool.agava.ru/gallery/rudenko/index.html
How much do these souvenirs differ from the originals? Is a fake immediately recognized at a glance?


I looked at the site, the picture is very beautiful! Of course, such souvenirs should be viewed in real life. I also wonder what the antennae and legs of butterflies are made of and how much time is spent on one souvenir?

15.12.2009 21:06, Yakovlev

But is it possible to fake a real view with such an "assembly"? It seems to me that because of the huge interspecific differences in the pattern of most butterflies, you can only collect something fantastic from two different species...
What about a completely artificial fake? For example, I really want to listen to those who held the products of Nadezhda Rudenko in their hands:
http://artschool.agava.ru/gallery/rudenko/index.html
How much do these souvenirs differ from the originals? Is a fake immediately recognized at a glance?

Nadezhda Rudenko this is a separate conversation.
This is a passionate and very dedicated person. I used to bring her hawk moth to Germany-it now adorns the wall of the Witt Museum in Munich. Knowledgeable people will understand what kind of institution it is!!! Witt shouted with joy at receiving such a gift!!!

16.12.2009 12:28, Penzyak

About ten years ago, we had a student who came to our department as a schoolboy and became interested in entomology. Unfortunately, he has a very creative soul - he didn't finish his studies, he left for the army. And now he is engaged in artistic metal forging. So, when he was still a schoolboy, he built a whole box of various chimeras from the waste of his field practice in invertebrate zoology (fragments of old insect collections). Everything was done so carefully and with all the proportions that freshmen at the summer field practice when they came across this box in their hands were simply lost in guesses-WHAT IT WAS and most importantly where it was collected...

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