Catching insects abroad

They will see everything
, but questions are unlikely to arise. At most, you will be asked to approach representatives of the Rosselkhoznadzor to put a stamp on the declaration.

This is what our customs officers will ask, respectively, right? On the other hand, butterflies are dry, so why declare them? I am most concerned about the Greek side. There is an option to put the bags in the pockets of my pants (the benefit is that I do not catch on an industrial scale), then no one will see anything.

This is what our customs officers will ask, respectively, right? On the other hand, butterflies are dry, so why declare them? I am most concerned about the Greek side. There is an option to put the bags in the pockets of my pants (the benefit is that I do not catch on an industrial scale), then no one will see anything.

Ours, yes.
Why declare them? And you tell the customs officer this, if he suddenly decides that it is necessary
I can't say anything about the Greeks, I don't know.

I don't think there will be any problems if you just stick insects in your luggage. I took out hundreds of dry materials in this way. I try not to put it in a large container - and everything goes fine. It is much more likely to give explanations about acetates and stains.

I don't think there will be any problems if you just stick insects in your luggage. I took out hundreds of dry materials in this way. I try not to put it in a large container - and everything goes fine. It is much more likely to give explanations about acetates and stains.

Well, I don't plan to export hundreds, I'm not for sale, and I don't need stains and acetate,because I only catch butterflies. In general, I do not think that there will be any problems, I will consult with the tour operator before leaving.

Insects in the luggage and through the "green corridor". And it is better not to ask "can" or "can't" questions - there will definitely be problems. In general, the Greeks are not bad guys, but to pass the Ukrainian customs-yes...

Insects in the luggage and through the "green corridor". And it is better not to ask "can" or "can't" questions - there will definitely be problems.

Who should I not ask, the customs officers? So I wasn't going to ask them anything.

I exported insects from Portugal and Bulgaria. Both times on a regular plane flight. Boxes measuring 210x300x15 mm (an average of 5 pieces) were in a common luggage bag. Ugh, three times ... - there were no problems and no unnecessary questions!

I exported insects from Portugal and Bulgaria. Both times on a regular plane flight. Boxes measuring 210x300x15 mm (an average of 5 pieces) were in a common luggage bag. Ugh, three times ... - there were no problems and no unnecessary questions!

Thanks for the info! In general, I was told about Portugal that it doesn't matter that you carry at least a ton of dry material, just not drugs.

Although I didn't fly to the European Union, and I didn't fly at all, but I think everything will be OK.
In general, it's a pity not to catch a lot. They would have caught a little on the exchange, maybe some beetles at least

Although I didn't fly to the European Union, and I didn't fly at all, but I think everything will be OK.
In general, it's a pity not to catch a lot. They would have caught a little on the exchange, maybe some beetles at least

Dear Ripper, Speaking about the number of boxes, and these were mattresses with beetles and bags of butterflies, I did not mean at all that I collected everything in unlimited quantities. I am not a merchant, and even when I catch rare insects, I do not catch them to the maximum, so that I can profitably drive all this to collectors! Just when you find yourself in a fundamentally new place with a huge biomass (for example, the Far East) and catching at the very minimum for yourself, the amount of material will not fit even in 10 such boxes.

I didn't mean that either
You need to buy your own plane
What's the point of that anyway? It doesn't seem to have run over

Have you personally dealt with the Greeks? Please tell us in more detail.


Purely personal impressions. If we talk about customs:it seems that Greek customs officers, like our cops, are aimed at brutal brunettes. A balding blonde with light eyes and a snub nose is simply not seen at close range. The first time in Athens I tried as Yu.Nikulin in the "Diamond hand" show someone bags-so sent. I was in Greece three times and all the time I took out insects in my luggage - they never looked at me. And in my life, I liked the people there. Friendly and humorous. And most importantly, a person with a net is treated normally, they are not surprised.

Have you personally dealt with the Greeks? Please tell us in more detail.
Purely personal impressions. If we talk about customs:it seems that Greek customs officers, like our cops, are aimed at brutal brunettes. A balding blonde with light eyes and a snub nose is simply not seen at close range. The first time in Athens I tried as Yu.Nikulin in the "Diamond hand" show someone bags-so sent. I was in Greece three times and all the time I took out insects in my luggage - they never looked at me. And in my life, I liked the people there. Friendly and humorous. And most importantly, a person with a net is treated normally, they are not surprised.

Great! Thank you, Alex, for the detailed information!

And most importantly, a person with a net is treated normally, they are not surprised.

Darrell must have done his best

I took them out of Spain, not too much, but there were also live insects and geckos. No problem at all. It seems that when you take them through the" X - ray", you can't see any insects. A friend of mine from Montenegro took out three hundred live newts without any problems and an old fascist helmet on his head

If there is no roof, then you can't tell any customs officers anything. "Because no insects can be imported!" We can't have anything at all. Apparently, Mr. Bad Dena has very cool connections (they just put a stamp on it... well, well). Fortunately, mattresses, as well as alcohol material, are not visible in the "TV", or rather they are not distinguishable as something worthy of attention. As for Europe, the situation is twofold: on the one hand, all sorts of dirty laws on nature protection, i.e. you can't carry anything without papers, on the other hand, Europeans practically do not check their luggage. So, just make a "box face", like "this is a gift souvenir" and that's it. Good luck.

I'm sorry, one more IMPORTANT point. when passing the security check, do not have anything objectionable with you - everything is in your luggage. After the well-known events of September 11, they can be fined very carefully...

If there is no roof, then you can't tell any customs officers anything. "Because no insects can be imported!" We can't have anything at all. Apparently, Mr. Bad Dena has very cool connections (they just put a stamp on it... well, well).

EVERYTHING can be imported if you have the appropriate documents - even weapons and drugs .
Customs officers only need the stamp "Import allowed" on the declaration, which is put by representatives of the Rosselkhoznadzor, but they can already demand either a phytosanitary certificate issued in the country from which the passenger arrived (if the insects are dry), or vet. certificate (if the insects are alive). But this is only if you said that you have such and such, or the customs officer found it himself. So if you want to be safe , just prepare your documents in advance.
And no cool connections are needed here.

I have taken dry insects from the tropics and North America many times. There were never any problems (knock knock on wood). There is only one requirement, now in Europe, and transfers have always been there, liquids are prohibited in the cabin, so all alcohol fees or collections are only included in luggage! You can easily carry mattresses and split boxes in your hand luggage. Within reason, of course. I do not know how nshi commercial catchers export thousands and thousands of butterflies and large beetles from China or India, probably there is know-how. Or local hired people then send them parcels....

Hello! I have such a question. Skora is going to Germany for two months and would like to celebrate something like this, but is it possible to catch insects (in particular butterflies) there? Isn't this illegal? Yes, I'm going by bus, I hope they won't make a fuss.
Please answer, as this is sooo important.

Here in South Africa, fishing without a permit is definitely illegal. Anywhere. There have already been precedents with arrests, fines, and expulsions. Just unlucky guys. We need to understand the mentality of Westerners, when they see strangers with nets, they run to call the police.
As for Germany, I think not everything is so terrible. Ask your question on the forum http://insektenfotos.de/

In general, where can I get a fishing permit from us?

I think you need to do this, if you will catch on the land belonging to your friends and relatives, then there are no problems. If there is such a situation, go along the road, see the soobrazitelny lawn. Of course, nothing will happen for a couple of strokes of the net, but if you need to organize serious fishing, then you need to find the house of the land owner and ask his permission to fish in his possession. Actually, I did so, surprisingly, but the owners themselves vvlyalis as if from under the ground and asked what I was doing here! Apparently, the peasants called them back on their cell phones... With state-owned land, everything is much more complicated. If this is a nature reserve, then the amateur is not going to get anything, as you need to write off a lot in advance with the local Ministry of Nature Protection to get a permit.
All these problems are typical only for fishing that attracts attention - fishing with light traps and nets. If you just dig the jars into the beetles, no one will notice or understand anything. If the place is really deaf and no one walks or drives there, then do not be afraid of anything! ) And finally, just trust your relatives, they know exactly all the situation in the area!
The last problem is export. Here everything is simple, put everything in your luggage, and no problems.

This post was edited by Proctos - 25.06.2007 15: 56

Please tell me, are there any "invisible" ways to catch butterflies (day and night)?

Officially, the capture of all day butterflies is prohibited in Germany.

And the night ones?

In fact, in Germany, the ban on catching insects is not controlled. The laws are old and outdated. Getting a catch permit is a matter of 2 days and seems to be free.

Does anyone know anything about Cuba?

With Cuba, we have a visa-free message, like. I think there are no problems with fishing and export. Anthropogenic impact is strong there, though... A to unspoilt places (mountains) still need to get there, in Cuba this is a problem. Of the interesting countries, there is also the Dominican Republic, where there are simply magnificent mountains, and there are absolutely wonderful untouched places that, unfortunately, are constantly being reduced.
I am pedaling the mountain theme for the reason that in the Caribbean, the local endemic fauna is concentrated there. On poberzhye, alas, a dull monotonous, mostly entered by humans.

Most importantly, the problem of catch and export.
After all, what I am afraid of: You will spend a lot of money on a flight and existence in the "banana republic", or the local authorities will not understand, or, loaded with mattresses, crooks with tattoos, happy and tanned, you will beat your nerves at the airport.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 07/29/2007 20: 37

Does anyone know anything about Cuba?

Cuban Natural History Museum: http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/ They respond poorly, slowly, but(!) they respond. You can also hire a local guide there to help you get to the most interesting places.

By the way, if the trip is real, I would order land clams for my wife (she is a malacologist). There are land snails endemic at every turn...

This post was edited by Anthicus - 30.07.2007 14: 05

Well, we will definitely get orders for Cuba (in the sense of nadaem)

This post was edited by mikepride - 30.07.2007 14: 47

You, Friends, wait with the orders. I'm still hesitating. So many interesting places. I haven't decided where to go yet, but Cuba is one of my favorites.

to Anthicus: I'm all about Cuba. And how about the export?

My father-in-law has been flying to Cuba for a month, so I can try to push the issue of export through him. I mean, he doesn't know a cockroach from a fly, but he'll find out with customs.

Oh-oh-oh, this is going to be great.

My question is: what about the material from Turkmenistan? Is there anyone who drives from there? I need more material from Turkmenistan for the revision of one Anthicidae. But fresh. The old one is already enough.

to Anthicus: I'm all about Cuba. And how about the export?

If you're lucky. Familiar Germans took out. Just in your luggage, as always. Of course, not tons, but science, every little thing. I don't know about the laws in this regard. Probably bad.

This post was edited by Anthicus - 07/31/2007 11: 36