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14.10.2009 21:35, Победитель тараканов

Not as I can not understand wall.gifWhy you need to know Latin and almost speak it?
This is a dead language, probably scientists do not speak it at symposia anymore, and
species names are usually linked to some place, discoverer,
or simple feature (large, small)
If anyone can explain why all this is (learning Latin), then let him not take the trouble
to tell me about it, unintelligent

15.10.2009 22:54, barko

Please help me with a non-Latin word. We need a formal translation of the term scobinate into Russian.

16.10.2009 7:29, Pavel Morozov

If only it is derived from scobīna, ae f. - LARGE FILE, RASP
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16.10.2009 10:25, barko

If only it is derived from scobīna, ae f. - large file, rasp
Yes, from him. Scobinate is a Medical term and is often used in entomology. Its meaning is clear to me, but there is no translation into Russian anywhere.

16.10.2009 21:55, Bad Den

Please help me with a non-Latin word. We need a formal translation of the term scobinate into Russian.

And the word in what language?

16.10.2009 21:56, barko

And the word in what language?
in English texts it is used

14.12.2009 0:56, Alex KNZ

Thank you so much for such a topic! Been looking for a long time..smile.gif

28.01.2010 5:21, Avatar

Here in the app there is a very short section about Latin pronunciation:
http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/school/vzmsh/r_main.pdf

I've reworked this app into a handy reminder image for those who are interested:

Pictures:
Rule_provision_slatin_snames.jpg
Rule_provision_slatin_snames.jpg — (268.11к)

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12.03.2010 22:12, guest: юрец

I read everything, it's so interesting..... and I'll start learning Latin myself. I've always been partial to her. thank you all very much!

19.03.2010 14:42, Благовернов

I'm more interested in Latin sayings.

28.03.2010 21:50, Mantispid

By the way, people, can anyone explain this:
Jubbulpuria von Huene & Matley, 1933
Jeholosaurus Xu, Wang X. & You, 2000
Jingshanosaurus Zhang & Yang, 1995
Juravenator Gohlich & Chiappe, 2006

(true, these are all names of dinosaurs)

28.03.2010 22:07, Dr. Niko

By the way, people, can anyone explain this:
Jubbulpuria von Huene & Matley, 1933
Jeholosaurus Xu, Wang X. & You, 2000
Jingshanosaurus Zhang & Yang, 1995
Juravenator Gohlich & Chiappe, 2006

(true, these are all names of dinosaurs)

Explain what? confused.gif
All sorts of Jj... these are either toponyms or scientists, Saurus-lizard (Greek), Jurassic-Jurassic period, venator-hunter (Latin).
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29.03.2010 16:08, Mantispid

Yes no, I just didn't understand why J is how J is read, then how Y

29.03.2010 21:45, Vorona

Well, there are different points of view. The most conservative comrades say that you should always read it as Y. The more "advanced" ones(a joke, of course) believe that if the name comes from a proper name (or a geographical name), it should be read as in the original language. That is, from the English - J. R. R. Tolkien. From Spanish-x, I think? (Or I'm lying about Spanish...)
Damn, I'm slowing down, they've already explained everything here without me.

This post was edited by Vorona - 03/29/2010 21: 46

29.03.2010 21:50, Dr. Niko

Yes, no, I just didn't understand why J is read as J, then as X

I'm not a taxonomist, but in my opinion the pronunciation in Latin coincides with the pronunciation of the name in another language - that is, in which it is given and written. For example-Tuojiangosaurus - TOJIANOSAURUS (Chinese name before saurus-we take the transcription system of Palladium); boisduvali - BOADUVALI (French pronunciation).
And your Jingshanosaurus is supposed to be a JINGSHANOSAURUS.

This post was edited by Dr. Niko - 03/29/2010 21: 52

30.03.2010 10:56, Mantispid

Then it turns out that you need to learn Chinese and all the other languages of the world in order to correctly read the name of some dumb lizard) The very meaning of Latin - so that everyone understands each other, is lost

30.03.2010 13:03, Dr. Niko

Then it turns out that you need to learn Chinese and all the other languages of the world in order to correctly read the name of some dumb lizard) The very meaning of Latin - so that everyone understands each other-is lost

Well, why, it is enough to know several transcription systems. What does it have to do with learning a language? For the layman, such names look indigestible, but I think this is a good way to create new taxon names.
As for the meaning of Latin , I think that if a Chinese scientist tells a Spanish scientist a phrase like "This dinosaur has been named as Tuojiangosaurus", then this is a problem for the Spaniard - he should (in the sense that he needs it, not the Chinese) know English and write (read) in Latinized Chinese. All our confusion is due to the fact that foreign scientists in 90% of cases speak several languages, as I think. smile.gif

30.03.2010 13:39, Victor Titov

Then it turns out that you need to learn Chinese and all the other languages of the world in order to correctly read the name of some dumb lizard) The very meaning of Latin - so that everyone understands each other-is lost

Why is that lost? confused.gif If you see this name in the text, you will understand what it is about, even if you can't pronounce it correctly. Yes, and in direct (face-to-face) communication with a colleague, if you mispronounce it, you will be corrected (if necessarysmile.gif) .

30.03.2010 16:53, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Then it turns out that you need to learn Chinese and all the other languages of the world in order to correctly read the name of some dumb lizard) The very meaning of Latin - so that everyone understands each other-is lost


Laughter-laughter, but in conversations, for example, with the English, at first I did not perceive Latin by ear! So there is a problem.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg-30.03.2010 16: 54

30.03.2010 16:59, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Back in my freshman year, the now-deceased Nienburg snickered at me when I called Julius "Julius". This is Latin, not English.
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