The attitude of ordinary people to entomologists

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16.01.2010 20:06, Фиалка трехцветная

Yes, the topic is really burning. I catch in most cases in the fields alone. A little scary, I'll admit it.
"I have to hide in the bushes from all sorts of drunken groups passing by. Once, even with unambiguous hints (not about insects), one guy stuck to me, it's good that it wasn't far from the roadway and I run fast)))
-Another time (even though I wasn't alone), some inadequate middle-aged man was walking around the field with a child's toy in his hands, stopped and began to spin some nonsense. Well, I don't have time to talk about nonsense: I'm engaged in trapping, I stood for a while, and then left myself.
-When I was in Karachay-Cherkessia, there was atas at all: while I was going to the fishing spot, every (!!) passing car stopped, even a logging truck, all the drivers leaned out and talked for a long time about who I was, where I came from, why with a net and what catch. And so it is every single day!
-In the middle zone, people are less curious, it's understandable, everything is in business. But there are two types of reactions: either they shy away from me with a net, like a leper, or they bulge their eyes and turn around so much that many people already stumble, poor people))
-And at home in Murmansk, when the whole group went to field practice (imagine, on rare warm summer days, everyone walks around the city during the parade. and here...15 people in field clothes, rubber boots and walking around the city with nets) The reaction of passers-by was necessary to see

One man even, unable to stand it, asked if we were going to catch fish in the bay.
These are the tales of the seasoned

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18.01.2010 1:26, Pirx

I once caught flies in a mountain clearing in the Caucasus in 2005. Nearby, Shtil was turning stones in search of ground beetles. Summer, heat, altitude about 2 km. Here a soldier (sergeant) comes up the path to the clearing. Style - "Cargo 200": a whitish bandana, Kalash, unloading vest, sweat in a stream, etc. Sees a slow-motion idiot in a hat and with a bamboo net in a thicket of giant hogweed (I) and a grunting gloomy informal in the style of "System of a Down"(Calm). As he drew level with us, he said, WITHOUT STOPPING, in a Moscow accent, correcting his AKM, " Do you catch butterflies?" he shot higher. Considering that from time to time bursts of fire were fired from Abkhazia. We sighed. A little later it turned out that they were flowers. A platoon of 25 men was coming down the slope. And everyone, going out into the clearing, corrected the AKM and casually-tenderly (EXACTLY, and some - with joy) asked- " Oh, do you catch butterflies!?!Somewhere around the 10th person, we stopped playing entomologists, stood by the trail and just answered the same question, meekly and cordially. Not forgetting that we are from fraternal Ukraine.

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22.01.2010 20:01, Transilvania

Violet tricolor, oh, how I know all this. I already have a reflex - at the sight of approaching strangers, I hide in the bushes.

I'm such a dandelion girl of God with a big camera, a small net and a bag, I arouse curiosity. In order not to attract attention, I dress like a boy and pull the cap down on my nose.
And in the spring, I was once annoyed by an aunt. I saw bees behind the house above my mother and stepmother. I lay down on the grass and watch, take pictures. There are some cars parked there. An aunt leans out of the window and shouts: "Get out of there, don't shoot our car!".
I say ," I shoot bees. I don't need your rusty piece of iron for nothing."
"And it's not rusty at all, don't!" - my aunt was offended.

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22.01.2010 21:40, Vorona

Dogs - yes, in the Murmansk region there is a much more urgent problem than people. There are a lot of wild ones running around the hills. Such volkolayki. Moreover, it is those who hang out near railway stations and garages that are more dangerous - people feed them, they are not afraid. And their gulki are somehow not timed to coincide with a certain time of year. Whether the polar night / summer all so knocked down... So you can always run into a wedding.
Sometimes it's very dumb. And away from the settlements and animals, and people themselves go around. For various reasons. Once I left the path (well, it doesn't matter why

), and almost stepped on a poacher who saw us earlier and lay down under a bush, taking it for fish protection.

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12.02.2010 3:14, Фиалка трехцветная

Some doctors do not seem to limit themselves to discussions. A real case (according to a classmate): a student took (so far no one has seen) a part of the body (I'd rather not specify which one) to show at home "how correctly and beautifully he performed the dissection" at a practical lesson in St. Petersburg (Medical Academy), put this part in a package, a package in a bag So I decided to take you to the subway. However, vigilant citizens who felt a strange smell called the police. There was a fine and a scandal with an explanation in the rector's office.
So, if people of other professions and hobbies often laugh at our entomological conversations and transportation of straightened and live material, and some even consider the love of "all sorts of beetles-boogers" to be insanity, then what did they say about this case (although here I agree, the guy clearly has not everything with his head it was fine)...

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12.02.2010 17:44, DISAF

In 2004, we returned with Entalex in my car from Altai.The traffic police stopped us at Tolyattinskaya GRES - in those years the bridge was being reconstructed there and only local and thugs were allowed to pass through it.And local thugs...We were not just "wrapped up", we were subjected to the most severe search!The traffic cop shook up everything that is possible, except that the interior trim was not removed.I studied the entire contents of the first-aid kit, hardly reading the names of medicines that were difficult for me.And when he got to the ammonia syringe, that's where you should have seen his blissful disguise!It showed how he was already imagining another star on the shoulder straps and a personalized watch for detecting "dope".He was so caught up in his dreams that he didn't hear us telling him in one voice that we were biologists and that we needed this for our work.The traffic cop expertly squeezed out a large portion of the liquid from the syringe and savorily sniffed the fumes through his nose.How we didn't burst out laughing in his face I still don't understand!But his face, flushed with tears and disappointment, was remembered for more than one year!
By the way, one day another traffic cop, seeing straighteners in the car, asked what is this?The answer was-we are entomologists, we study butterflies.To which he asked WHY DO THEY BITE? ..

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12.02.2010 19:29, Фиалка трехцветная

I also remember going by car through Maikop towards Tuapse. There, in Maykop, there is a traffic police post where we are stopped from year to year (after all, 51 regions, not local ones). So this time we were slowed down by one such plump cop (and two more stood a little further away). He checked the first-aid kit. He asked me to open the trunk, and a large box on top of it caught his attention. I open it - and there are butterflies spread out. I remember the bewilderment on his face, immediately let go, no longer dug in.))) And the two who were standing a little further away, at that time, came closer and began to discuss among themselves first whether they were alive (otherwise you can't see the needles!), and then about what they were used for. But no one asked me anything personally.

And this summer, the cyclists had competitions just on that section of the road along the forest and along the edge, where my husband was walking with a net (I could not catch for certain reasons). On the last lap, one of the cyclists, all red from the heat and sweating, still asked with irony: "Do you dry them and put them in soup?"

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24.02.2010 10:55, Penzyak

Late September, a fine sunny Sunday afternoon. I no longer want to go to the dacha, and my friend Alexander Roganin (a landscape artist from Khuduzhnik) and I rushed to the "Bright Glade" in the forests and meadows, to see what else flies from butterflies and what insects are still active...

We got off at the end of the summer bus and slowly moved east along a forest road with a chic edge of a pine forest and a deep fire-fighting furrow along the forest...

There were not enough butterflies, but in the withered grass, in the sun, there were a lot of caterpillars, we catch them and look at what is interesting in plastic cans. By endlessly go the festive audience "on mushrooms". They tried to respond benevolently for an hour, then spat and went on down the road to the meadows in the mixed forest. But even here, gribneki constantly surfaced and stared at our nets and hiking enciphalite suits, invariably asking: "What are you doing!??" I couldn't stand it and made a serious face and cheerfully blurted out: "We are from the sanitary inspection station!". And to the surprised exclamations, he continued to drive: "We catch a tick for encephalitis!!" It was funny to see how people immediately began to look around and look around with wide eyes, as if a terrible beast was lurking in the nearest bush.... "And they are here??" Proroda's gift lovers asked warily. "That's enough!" we answered cheerfully, and went on gravely. After half an hour, we had already stopped seeing people loitering, and soon the constant voices calling out to each other subsided. This is probably how rumors are born...

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23.07.2010 12:06, Вишняков Алексей

What a cool theme! I'm really in a good mood! I want to note that this attitude is not only for insect lovers. I apologize for being off-topic. I've been working on birds for a long time, and there were also a lot of curiosities. I'll tell you about one thing. This spring I found a diary of big-eared owls in the Moscow State Security Service. I watched them for 2 weeks. Seven of them were sitting in the same tree. They sat low, at eye level. People passed by and saw that I was taking pictures of something, and they asked, what did you find there? I had to explain, ask them not to make any noise, and so on. Gathered as a group of onlookers, about 10 people. But I was just killed by a woman. When asked who they were, I said they were big-eared owls. Then the show started. What kind of owls are they, these are owls. She was proving it so fiercely that just as many other people gathered. She claimed that she was a well-known biologist, that she was very well versed in birds. And I was told that I was an amateur and didn't understand anything. Then she said that she would call the journalists. Such a thing! There are so many owls in one place in Moscow. The result is sad. After a couple of days, the owls were gone. There was a small body shot through under the tree. My colleagues then found that the owls had previously been kept in this tree for about 3 months.

23.07.2010 12:08, Vlad Proklov

What a cool theme! I'm really in a good mood! I want to note that this attitude is not only for insect lovers. I apologize for being off-topic. I've been working on birds for a long time, and there were also a lot of curiosities. I'll tell you about one thing. This spring I found a diary of big-eared owls in the Moscow State Security Service. I watched them for 2 weeks. Seven of them were sitting in the same tree. They sat low, at eye level. People passed by and saw that I was taking pictures of something, and they asked, what did you find there? I had to explain, ask them not to make any noise, and so on. Gathered as a group of onlookers, about 10 people. But I was just killed by a woman. When asked who they were, I said they were big-eared owls. Then the show started. What kind of owls are they, these are owls. She was proving it so fiercely that just as many other people gathered. She claimed that she was a well-known biologist, that she was very well versed in birds. And I was told that I was an amateur and didn't understand anything. Then she said that she would call the journalists. Such a thing! There are so many owls in one place in Moscow. The result is sad. After a couple of days, the owls were gone. There was a small body shot through under the tree. My colleagues then found that the owls had previously been kept in this tree for about 3 months.

Oh!: (
There aren't so many assholes anywhere else...

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24.07.2010 8:58, Cerambyx

What a cool theme! I'm really in a good mood! I want to note that this attitude is not only for insect lovers. I apologize for being off-topic. I've been working on birds for a long time, and there were also a lot of curiosities. I'll tell you about one thing. This spring I found a diary of big-eared owls in the Moscow State Security Service. I watched them for 2 weeks. Seven of them were sitting in the same tree. They sat low, at eye level. People passed by and saw that I was taking pictures of something, and they asked, what did you find there? I had to explain, ask them not to make any noise, and so on. Gathered as a group of onlookers, about 10 people. But I was just killed by a woman. When asked who they were, I said they were big-eared owls. Then the show started. What kind of owls are they, these are owls. She was proving it so fiercely that just as many other people gathered. She claimed that she was a well-known biologist, that she was very well versed in birds. And I was told that I was an amateur and didn't understand anything. Then she said that she would call the journalists. Such a thing! There are so many owls in one place in Moscow. The result is sad. After a couple of days, the owls were gone. There was a small body shot through under the tree. My colleagues then found that the owls had previously been kept in this tree for about 3 months.

Mda, in such cases it is better to mow down for a fool and say like that this tree will soon come to life and go to smash orcs, so I shoot

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09.08.2010 8:10, Karat

This weekend I was checking banks with my brother for carabiners in the steppe areas near Ulan-Ude. Although it was a dry year, the hemp in the fields grew quite well. Buryatia is generally famous for this business. They say our dope is well "the most-the most"... The police have been on full guard in these areas since the end of July. We stand in the field and pull out a good catch, it's not clear where the traffic police crew comes from with sparkling smiles...they probably already thought about how they would write in the reports about the capture of another drug dealer... There was no limit to my surprise when we saw up close what we really do)) and it took a long time to find out if we had smoked before))? and why do we need beetles?..

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07.11.2010 16:59, Hierophis

The attitude of "normal people" to lovers of observing or catching insects is in some ways similar to the attitude of entomologists to anonymous people-fear, dislike

is determined by misunderstanding and ignorance, in a particular case-motivation and purpose.
When it becomes known that a person performs "these strange actions" for entomological purposes, the attitude usually changes to a more neutral, but rarely positive, especially if an "adult man" is already fond of insects. So after revealing the motives, most often you can hear variants of the phrase " okay, you're a fool yourself, but what's it like for your mother?"

True, age matters - up to 12-14 years - there is still a certain immunity from oblique glances and questions, they say, childhood is still playing somewhere, the most difficult thing is to mine at 19-25 years, after 40, the "immunity of maturity" from all sorts of questions should also begin to act, the truth is that people will think and how to respond to it look at the sight of such an adult with a net-scary to think )))

Another very interesting question about the attitude of entomologists to "ordinary people" is how much an insect lover is willing to sacrifice his status as a "normal man", and "light up" a net or an exhausterinaction on some flower bed or lawn with a bunch of people

Since I was not regularly engaged in catching and collecting insects, but was engaged in various observations and disassembly of various nests of social insects,the problems were specific. Very often, all sorts of questions were asked while I was watching the Amazon ants and blood ants hike, and the column was crossing a busy sidewalk. And dismantling and monitoring the nests of synanthropic social insects is something in general, it was often necessary to "penetrate" into the territories of various construction projects, kindergartens, etc., which just did not happen, once even the police were almost taken away for "clarification", and this is all at school age, and an adult uncle could I would also like to send them to another educational institution before finding out their motives )))

Also about "normal" people - a real story that my friend, a biologist, told me, although not an entomologist in terms of collecting, but rather an ethologist

One woman who respected him, so to speak, on duty, in a conversation said something like this - "but there are such assholes, collect insects, keep all sorts of nasty things at home, snakes, spiders", and he said something like - "hmm, yes, but I have snakes at home" - to which my aunt replied, " well...<slightly choked>... sometimes this happens to normal people..." ))))))
A special situation here is that this woman was also a biologist by training, worked in a certain laboratory.

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26.11.2010 10:17, introvert

The attitude of the society towards the students of literature is, of course, mostly neutral. But if you "Freak out" on this topic, the whole city instantly (behind your back) knows about it. I see several reasons.
First(optional)- this is one of the ways of social protection of the average person. I.e. "thank God I'm not like that or my man is normal, only drinks vodka". And in fact, it makes life easier for many people. They understand that they are on the right path up the social ladder. Especially happy "men" suffering from the syndrome of "big eggs "(brutality). They also have to prove all their lives that it is necessary to sit with their legs spread wide, if it doesn't work out, vodka saves them. I don't want to offend my colleagues, but on the forum a lot of entomologists suffer from "brutality".
Second, the country is still "poorly literate". This is the legacy of tsarism. The Soviet government did little to change the mentality of the peasant. WE ALL COME FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE. Noble education gave the concept of entomology as an integral part of world science. Where is the nobility now, at least the intelligentsia...
Definitely, we punished our children by dealing with beetles. We're lucky beetles in our own way. Our children will be poked in the eyes – your father is a jerk. How can you protect them from the average person?
I've done something wrong!

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26.11.2010 13:25, rpanin

The attitude of the society towards the students of literature is, of course, mostly neutral. But if you "Freak out" on this topic, the whole city instantly (behind your back) knows about it. I see several reasons.
First(optional)- this is one of the ways of social protection of the average person. I.e. "thank God I'm not like that or my man is normal, only drinks vodka". And in fact, it makes life easier for many people. They understand that they are on the right path up the social ladder. Especially happy "men" suffering from the syndrome of "big eggs "(brutality). They also have to prove all their lives that it is necessary to sit with their legs spread wide, if it doesn't work out, vodka saves them. I don't want to offend my colleagues, but on the forum a lot of entomologists suffer from "brutality".
Second, the country is still "poorly literate". This is the legacy of tsarism. The Soviet government did little to change the mentality of the peasant. WE ALL COME FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE. Noble education gave the concept of entomology as an integral part of world science. Where is the nobility now, at least the intelligentsia...
Definitely, we punished our children by dealing with beetles. We're lucky beetles in our own way. Our children will be poked in the eyes – your father is a jerk. How can you protect them from the average person?
I've done something wrong!

Ches word, you read this and the complex itself can develop.
I'm an entomologist, and I'm proud of it !
And don't give a damn what they think of Bo to me!
You have to be polite when setting traps,and then only for the reason that the traps are not touched. When you shoot, you abstract, don't ask stupid questions like what are you doing?
The situation in the mountains:
"Girls, please get up, I have a trap under this rock."
"What are you looking for, golden root?
"
Or on a crowded beach to catch horses. I can imagine what they thought of me. But no one spoke.
I remember catching Omophron limbatum on the beach. You squish water on the sand, and they run out.
One guy still couldn't stand it, came up with a question.
"Catching beetles!"!! I answered. These beetles have the highest percentage of gold in their blood .
Which question is the answer.
More aplomb and everything is OK! So you're doing the right thing.

Another story on a fishing trip.
When I was still enjoying every musky sawyere in a childish way, I went up to a neighbor fisherman to share my joy from a broken beetle.
"Look at this beautiful beetle!
"Does it bite well ?"..

Conclusion: Ethological alignment.
This is a world of double standards.
In situations where the opposite sex is higher than you due to hierarchical ladders...
"Asshole.
Where you're on top.
"How interesting and wonderful it is

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