The attitude of ordinary people to entomologists

I read it and it came back to me. Jean-Henri Fabre, classical music

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In my student days, the department also told me how an entomologist named Prince once suffered. They met him with a net, and while he was trying to explain who he was and what he did, he couldn't think of anything better to do than try to introduce himself... In general, they got the poor guy out of the psych ward!

In Dagestan in 1991, we were asked 2 questions, literally like this: "Do you catch snakes here?" "Do you have a cigarette?"

In Ukraine - ...insects.... ahh!"the Colorado potato beetle!!! take it away! that's their car!

Well, everywhere, of course, fishermen get bait with nets - at least somehow fits in and does not break the usual picture of the world))))

But what is reasonable to object to neighbors and relatives on the topic of catching light in the garden? After all, some realized that this is what attracts all sorts of wreckers who do not fly to the lamp, but lay eggs on the surrounding trees)))

In my student days, the department also told me how an entomologist named Prince once suffered. They met him with a net, and while he was trying to explain who he was and what he did, he couldn't think of anything better to do than try to introduce himself... In general, they got the poor guy out of the psych ward!

So it's still true or true. I was also told this story. And that it was here in Moldova. When I went to the institute where I work to see my supervisor. I saw the poster, and there he is a Prince (sorry I didn't think to read the biography, but there seems to be only a photo), I think I've already heard this story somewhere. We were told exactly this, and they also added that he caught butterflies somewhere in the Durki area, in the sense of nearby there. The teacher also told us that there was just a psycho who ran away at that moment. Well, he approaches the prince, who at this moment is wearing glasses, with a net of a short stature, an aged man, a local security officer, so to speak. And asks:
- Who you will be, and he
is a Prince
-Ahh Prince, well, then you are with us. And they took the poor
guy away, but the teacher did not say whether this was true or not. It's like 50/50%. But such a person was in entomology.

Oh, from the topic of nostalgia wafted...)
With peers it can be hard (in their 15 years) ... In the summer with friends always go through the woods and I'm like one "special" all the time I go with a backpack from which that just does not stick out (oborud. I don't have any, so I have to use improvised items: bottles, grandma's jam jars, old boxes, etc.). We constantly run through the grass, so you can always hear "Do you catch ticks (frogs, hedgehogs)?" = / But you don't have to answer, they leave by themselves... It's a shame to come back from the forest when all the cans are filled, and in the hands of bronzes or T-shirts) In tortillas, too, it is a shame to dig, you never know who will see) Only if on the field, out of sight...
I don't like to starve insects, so in the summer there are a huge number of cans and aquariums with beetles at home) My mother grumbles all the time that all sorts of creatures crawl, and if they run away, etc., but at least the guests have something to show) Seriously, however, no one takes this hobby, everyone advises to do something more useful... =/
That's how I live)

So it's still true or true. I was also told this story. And that it was here in Moldova. When I went to the institute where I work to see my supervisor. I saw the poster, and there he is a Prince (sorry I didn't think to read the biography, but there seems to be only a photo), I think I've already heard this story somewhere. We were told exactly this, and they also added that he caught butterflies somewhere in the Durki area, in the sense of nearby there. The teacher also told us that there was just a psycho who ran away at that moment. Well, he approaches the prince, who at this moment is wearing glasses, with a net of a short stature, an aged man, a local security officer, so to speak. And asks:
- Who you will be, and he
is a Prince
-Ahh Prince, well, then you are with us. And they took the poor
guy away, but the teacher did not say whether this was true or not. It's like 50/50%. But such a person was in entomology.

This is a well-known case. True, they say, it happened to him in Primorye, in the Ussuriysk region.

Here is what I found about this scientist:
"For example, a well-known entomologist in Soviet times, Yakov Ivanovich Prinz, who worked in Moldova, for some reason called the grape felt mite "grape itch", and this is equivalent to saying that there is "grape scabies".

Grape scabies

He said that because:
".......Latreille assigned them to mites of the genus Sarcoptes and gave them the name Sarcoptes gallarum tiliae. Thus, Latreille was the first to establish that the Galls (gallarum) on the linden tree (tilia) were inhabited by ticks. However, the fact that he gave them an obviously inappropriate name led to annoying misunderstandings, because the generic name*) Sarcoptes in the exact sense of the word was proposed and continues to be used to refer to mites that cause scabies in animals, or itching. As a result, there were publications whose authors used the correct Latin names for four-legged ticks, but in Russian they called them “zudni”.

I learned it here: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:cb7_P...7&client=safari

He said that because:
".......Latreille assigned them to mites of the genus Sarcoptes and gave them the name Sarcoptes gallarum tiliae. Thus, Latreille was the first to establish that the Galls (gallarum) on the linden tree (tilia) were inhabited by ticks. However, the fact that he gave them a clearly inappropriate name led to annoying misunderstandings

It is not that the great Latreille gave an "inappropriate name" or assigned the species to the wrong genus. It is that in those days (Latreille was a disciple of Fabricius, a disciple of Linnaeus) genera were understood much more broadly than they are now. Well, for example, in Linnaeus himself, the order Lepidoptera included only 3 genera, Hymenoptera-8 genera, Diptera-10, Hemiptera (Rhynchota + Thysanoptera) -- 7 genera.

By the way, Latreille's life was saved by such a philistine. During the French revolutionary upheavals, Latreille was arrested and sentenced to death. Since the queue for the guillotine was long, he was in prison for a long time. One day, a staphylin, which Latreille has not yet described, flew through the cell window. There was nowhere to put the beetle, and Latreille did his best not to lose it, carefully examining it in his spare time (and he had plenty of such time). The jailer noticed the strange behavior of the prisoner and laughed at his eccentricities for a long time. And then I accidentally told the warden about " crazy." The warden turned out to be an avid insect lover and admirer of the famous Latreille's talent, as well as an influential politician. He immediately guessed who was in his prison and ordered the immediate release of Latreille.

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By the way, at one time it also helped me to look at an insect in the presence of a person who decided, if not my fate, then the future is definitely. It was in 1977, when I, an 18-year-old first-year student of the Biology Department of YarSU, was taking an exam in invertebrate zoology. Then the result of the exam was largely influenced by the score given for laboratory (practical) classes. A student who did not have a test in the "laboratory" was not allowed to take the exam at all, and from the second time he received a test (with the corresponding characteristic of the teacher who conducted the laboratory classes) could not count even if the theory was successfully passed by more than "3". And I distinguished myself in the "laboratory" - I had a lot of fun at one of the first classes over the senior laboratory assistant of the department (a stupid but vindictive woman), who hung a poster with a dismembered deer beetle on the board and loudly announced: "This is a dismembered black cockroach." Despite the success among my fellow students, the laughter came out "sideways": grymza the laboratory assistant recouped it all the same, not crediting me with a single laboratory work from the first time (contrary to common sense and the actual content of my work), and providing the exam with an appropriate review about the "lagging" student, that is, about me. It was useless to complain (keep in mind, in the 70s of the last century, a lot of capable young people were burning at the stake then ). Of course, I was sure that my excellent knowledge of theory + almost "failure" in the laboratory would result in at least "ud". But for me, from the time when I could only remember myself, surrounded by all sorts of animals, and entered the biofactory department both covetously and consciously, it was equal to Austerlitz . I go to the exam (June, summer session), and on the floor in the corridor I pick up a live talisman (flour krushchak). I indifferently take the ticket, and in my prostration, continuing to twirl the beetle that is trying to get free, I sit down at the examiner's table-the Great Pyotr Grigoryevich Oshmarin (God rest his soul!), one of the authors of the first volume of the famous 7-volume book "Animal Life", an outstanding helminthologist and a real naturalist (in the original sense of the word), until the bone marrow. With a sharp look, he sees the beetle in my hands. Question: "What do you have here?" Answer: "Tenebrio molitor". Then there was a sincere professional conversation on both sides (as it seemed to me, poor, at the time). The response to the ticket was already "sideways" and with a bang ! The master scolded me for not being tactful with a woman in a laboratory class, called me to order in the future, and I was happy, stunned, with an assessment corresponding to my dignity, fell out of the audience into the arms of my friends ! And then P. G. Oshmarin took me to the field...

This post was edited by Dmitrich-09.01.2008 11: 23

I take the fact that the local population asks questions calmly, but sometimes their curiosity goes beyond all bounds. Once on a Sunday I went to catch the settled bank of the Volga River not far from the city, but I did not take into account that in addition to representatives of the steppe fauna, there are a huge number of citizens who have left for the "green" at this place over the weekend. Arriving at the place, I was unpleasantly surprised by the number of people per unit area of the meadow, but decided not to back down from my plans, took out a net and began mowing. And then it started... People in varying degrees of drunkenness, attracted by the curious sight, began to approach and ask questions. The most standard one was: What do you catch here? At first, I answered: I catch insects, study fauna, etc., but when the number of people who asked exceeded several dozen, I began to answer in monosyllables: I catch whoever gets caught. Most of the questioners then retreated in thought, but after such an answer, one of the companies offered some kind of Marinka as an object of fishing, and I had to politely refuse. Perhaps the most exotic question was the boy's: do you catch newts here? I wonder how he imagined newts and how to catch them. This lasted for the entire route, about three hours. When I finally reached the bus stop, I felt a sense of relief. After this incident, I go to places like this on Monday, when it's quiet and peaceful.

Yes, possible interference caused by ordinary people is clearly looming.
The most important thing is the anxiety factor, that is, when all those who are not lazy get bored with unnecessary, often incorrect questions, stupid comments," giggles-hahankas", reproaches for"poaching"
, the problem of fees and other entomological activities is serious, contrary to local laws, especially abroad. In the vast majority of cases, nature protection laws and measures are not at all effective and absurd, but an entomologist is given a good chance to get a cap.
Well, it is worth touching on the reverse problem. A powerful lamp in the country, accidentally shining through the windows of a grumpy neighbor at night, can cause a "fun conversation".
Often, close people spoil the life of both themselves and the entomologist with their lack of understanding.
The smell of gasoline-galoshes, acetone, ammonia, ethyl acetate, other chemicals, a straightener that is not removed from the table in time, or a box can cause dissatisfaction even among the most understanding people.

However, it is nice to know that this is a very noble occupation. And the uninitiated, even the most unpleasant, have an involuntary respect after they hear about your expeditions.
Well, problems and problems have arisen, arise and will arise almost always. The main thing is to try to find a compromise, and even the one who hinders the hobby the most can help.

Most of the questioners then retreated in thought, but after such an answer, one of the companies offered some kind of Marinka as an object of fishing, and I had to politely refuse.

Well, it was worth collecting the installation data for Marinka

Maybe it's a fish to catch such a fish - marinka?

Maybe it's a fish to catch such a fish - marinka?

In the Volga?

I was afraid that the net wouldn't hold.

It's just like my dacha neighbor.
Right up until I got married, he was joking: "You should catch two-legged butterflies, Pashka!"

In my student days, the department also told me how an entomologist named Prince once suffered. They met him with a net, and while he was trying to explain who he was and what he did, he couldn't think of anything better to do than try to introduce himself... In general, they got the poor guy out of the psych ward!

It's funny, I've heard a similar story about E. N. Pavlovsky. He was walking once (in civilian clothes) in the park and saw some tinder boxes. Then, of course, I followed them up the tree. A passing police squad saw a bearded grandfather sitting on a tree.
"What are you doing there?"
- I collect mushrooms.
"Who is he?"
- Academician and general.
Well, it "under white hands" and sent where it is necessary...

I didn't meet any entomologists in my city. Seeing of course me with a net or holding a caught butterfly in my hands,people avoid me) Once I photographed butterflies sitting on a flower bed, a young man passed by and either I interested him, or a camera, he looked at it and offered to take a picture of me. Distracting me from my favorite activity, I hid the camera in my bag, then carefully picked up (caught) the butterfly with my fingers. Seeing this, the guy got scared and quickly left without asking anything)) It made me smile)

I am also terribly annoyed when my friends and acquaintances on my passion for insects or when I acquire, for example, a new type of stick insect ask: Why do you need this? Moreover, before that, there were a lot of conversations on the topic of my hobby and everything is wasted as it seems after such questions.
There are people who understand my passion and are happy to help me, and always bring a copy as soon as possible and look forward to seeing if there is such a thing in the collection)

Let's get closer to the topic. The topic is called the attitude of ordinary people to entomologists, and not the exchange and purchase of material . So, how many people I have met in the street, almost all treat entomologists either very badly or condescendingly. Honestly, it's depressing. I decided to dig deeper and understand why this happens. 1. I decided to take a historical look at whether this has always been the case. Let us recall the famous French naturalist J. A. Fabre - so this venerable scientist writes in some detail that his hobby is at least strange for ordinary people and many people take him for a fool or a mentally ill person. We go further, once sorting mattresses in the museum, made from Soviet newspapers, I found an article from the 50s, where a group of collecting entomologists was mistaken by local collective farmers for American spies giving signs (apparently with nets!) American planes. Collective farmers called the police - and entomologists have long proved their innocence of world imperialism. So now it is clear that such an attitude towards our brother was formed not yesterday. And its essence lies in the psychology of people. 2. If this is psychology, then the answer should be sought in it. It's no secret that people think in stereotypes. And changing the stereotype is difficult and thankless. Let's recall from our films the image of an entomologist-naturalist (a man with a net) - I can immediately name two - Durimard and Paganel, I think it's not necessary to name the films. Let's face it, the images are not inspiring (this is not Bruce Willis!) and they are not role models. In the latest cinema, I remember the phrase from the "Brigade" - "life just throws someone, and someone collects butterflies all their life". In addition, many people in childhood are interested in insects, then grow up, do "adult" things. And when they see a bearded man in shorts and with a net, they make a simple conclusion - the dude from childhood did not come out, imbecile!
And only by studying entomology for a long time and seriously do you understand that this is a complex, serious matter, but very few people need it. Unfortunately...

Dormidont, I would not quote the" brigade". Not a classic. It really sucks. And it would be better to remember the innocently murdered entomologist from "Deja Vu"

I'm not a fan of the brigade. But we are talking about ordinary people, mass culture. And this film is popular and phrases from it form public opinion.

Oh, good words.
I try not to pay attention to the reaction of the average person, but at the dacha I sometimes hear from a neighbor: "well, did you catch all the butterflies? I'd like you to catch cabbage rolls and Colorado potato beetles."
I jokingly answer that I catch its pests for money, and I mentally send my neighbor to Fig or even further.

About Fabre: when the Germans decided to melt down the Fabre monument during World War II, the working people buried it in a safe place overnight. There are many photos of Fabre's lectures that he gave to the townsfolk: a full hall of housewives and young people. The interest in insects was even expressed in the fact that Napoleon demanded to depict honeycombs on his mantle, admiring the organization of bee colonies. I don't agree with Dormidont that the roots are deep. There were times when the favorite of Louis XV collected herbariums, and the word "botanist" was synonymous with an enlightened and freedom-loving person. And what does that word mean now? Peter I spent a lot of money to buy a collection of Seba and take it to the dense Russia. The question is, why? You write about ordinary people, and I will tell you that now biology students also treat entomology as something archaic, a relic of a science that is only needed to identify pests and material for molecular research. In some groups, we are forced not to open cockroaches, because when they are seen, there are terrible screams of " oh, mommy! I'm afraid OF THAT!" And no threats can force them.

I saw a completely different situation in Japan: there, a cricket living in the house, a singing cicada, a moth beating at the window does not cause the average person a fit of disgust and a desire to crush an unnecessary creature. Therefore, I am convinced that everything depends on education and respect for others.

This post was edited by Juglans - 02/16/2008 14: 49

You probably have to agree that entomology in 18-19 was more respected than it is now. And this is primarily due to the fact that its authority was determined by those individuals who were engaged in it. Mostly it was the aristocracy and wealthy people. By the way, the English gentleman of those times was OBLIGED to know the names of animals and plants. And it was just as necessary as having good manners. If you reread the famous Jules Verne, he has very well registered naturalists-researchers, in the same "Hot Air Balloon Trip". And until now, in Western culture, even in the most shabby American films, the role of a scientist is always positively significant, and not comedic-secondary. Speaking of comparing public opinion in different countries: I remember once at the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, next to the toilet (so that everyone could probably see), they hung up a photocopy of the attitude of our and Western public to different specialties. So, in Western countries, scientists and researchers are in the first place, and in our post-Soviet space, criminal authorities and currency girls of easy virtue are in the lead. Our scientist is lower than the cleaning lady. It's worth thinking about! I am not an ardent pessimist, but each of us faces these problems every time. It is necessary to "encrypt" for fishermen, beekeepers and other "friends of nature". As if we were doing something forbidden! What can we say about ordinary people when some employees of nature reserves, instead of helping entomologists, forbid working on their territory. I was told in plain text that year, " What are you collecting from us? Insects should be looked at from books!, and not to spoil nature." And this is despite the fact that crowds of tourists are allowed to spoil this very nature for a fee. So it is quite possible that this is due to our mentality and natural lack of education.

It's definitely a matter of stereotyping society.. And ours, although not only..
The situation in the former Soviet Union is probably the most neglected, but not the only one.. It seems to me that the stereotype of our people is as follows: conventionally, in the minds of people, insects are divided into 4 orders-bedbugs, cockroaches, spiders and butterflies. If they see a butterfly, they say beautiful or not beautiful, depending on the family or species.. If they see anything else, including many butterflies, they say one of the first three options..
In the West, in my opinion, things are presented somewhat differently, most insects are considered crap, but not as much and not as much as in our country, and most scientists, like people with scientific inclinations or glasses , are NERDS..

I am also often asked, have you already caught everything in Moldova?
I always want to say that YOU are idiots, but I have to explain that there are at least 14,000 species of insects in Moldova, and I don't even have 4,000 of them, and in general - let them know at least something, since they ask at least something

The scientist has ceased to be the "hero of the day" - that's for sure. Artists are now broadcasting about the meaning of life. However, I still think that this is not a matter of any special mentality. Read the comments in this topic: wives, husbands, children and relatives, if they love and respect the entomologist's husband (wife, father, son-in-law, etc.), treat his occupation not only benevolently, but also try to help. This means that the attitude can be changed. I remember how I showed the simplest aunt (seller) of staphylin under binoculars. How many years have passed, and she still remembers it – not in the sense of "what a terrible bug", but "how difficult it is".

Maybe I will say something tactless, but I think that a lot of our society was determined by the mixing of society, when the village people flooded into the cities, when not very educated people got into the officials, when the RONO, filled with dense aunts, began to do education. The era of philistinism has come with its enduring slogan " no worse than others "("like people"). And if there were still enthusiasts in the USSR, the spirit of enlightenment was alive, then the market also dealt with them.

I don't know what will happen next. There seem to be so many films about insects right now, but even students don't watch them. The link between science and amateur culture has been disrupted: scientists look at amateurs with hostility or disdain, and amateurs – like a farmer at a genetic engineer who talks about the prospects for breeding potatoes with glowing tubers. However, this is another topic, about the relationship between amateurs and professionals.

This post was edited by Juglans - 02/17/2008 06: 52

 
I don't know what will happen next. There seem to be so many films about insects right now, but even students don't watch them. The link between science and amateur culture has been disrupted: scientists look at amateurs with hostility or disdain, and amateurs – like a farmer at a genetic engineer who talks about the prospects for breeding potatoes with glowing tubers. However, this is another topic, about the relationship between amateurs and professionals.

There are a lot of films, but they are all Western. Beautiful French movie Microcosmos. And how many interesting things are being filmed by the BBC! In the former USSR, we don't even have a hint of this. And this is despite the fact that the Western world is 100% capitalized - no one will even sneeze for free, let alone make a movie!

Here an interesting idea was raised - about the continuity of science. About communication between amateurs and professionals. This is a very important topic. Previously, there were children's environmental centers where young scientists were engaged. I myself once worked in such a center for a long time. And the scientist was not ashamed to come to the young scientists and tell them something about insects. And today, most professionals just hear the word yunnat and run away. Everyone thinks that sets for biology departments as they were and will be, no one cares about the younger generation. Meanwhile, children ALREADY have completely different priorities. And biology is far from the first place.

In the former USSR, there was no such technology (it also appeared in the West not so long ago). As it was, we had some great nature movies. I still remember a documentary about a family in the far north who sheltered a polar bear cub and he befriended a girl. No one else could repeat anything like this.

I don't like this word "young people"... there were real circles "Young entomologist" (I don't know if Ustyuzhanin still leads such a circle in Novosibirsk, and whether there are such circles somewhere). In the former USSR, a boy who was passionate about butterflies could come to ZIN, a specialist could pay attention to him, give him a topic for research (by the way, this is how Sinev started). FREE OF CHARGE.

And kits for biofacs are a separate song: now there are not enough children in the province even for free places. Most of them go to ecology and biochemistry. biotechnology... zoology

At the same time, IMHO, an ecologist cannot be taught "as an ecologist": he must grow up from a botanist, zoologist, etc. What kind of ecologist would this be without a" branded " systematic group, whose representatives he is able to identify, knows their ECOLOGY?

In the former USSR, there was no such technology (it also appeared in the West not so long ago). As it was, we had some great nature movies. I still remember a documentary about a family in the far north who sheltered a polar bear cub and he befriended a girl. No one else could repeat anything like this.

It is clear that this technique was not used before. And films about nature were good (take at least the program in the world of animals, with Drozdov). I'm talking about today. Every year, many films are shot in Russia, and today the position of Russian cinema is much better than in Perestroika times. And what is the share of biological cinema in them? 0 %. That there is no equipment? Special effects are shot no worse than in Hollywood. But there is no educational biological cinema. And why? But because our society does not need it. And the producer will not invest in an unfunded project. True, I had a chance to watch a movie of Odessa comrades a couple of years ago. It was made in the Cousteau style, only in the Black Sea region. The film is good, but 100% amateur. Created on the money of the bourgeoisie. So it turns out that Western civilization invests money in educating our inhabitants.

At the same time, IMHO, an ecologist cannot be taught "as an ecologist": he must grow up from a botanist, zoologist, etc. What kind of ecologist would this be without a" branded " systematic group, whose representatives he is able to identify, knows their ECOLOGY?

Well, this is your personal opinion. If we take into account the fact that ecologists are now trained in geographical faculties, plus there are all sorts of different specialties "near ecology". For example, "ecologist of the customs service" and others like it. It becomes clear that Haecklesque understanding of ecology is already an archaism today. Although it is intuitively clear to us biologists that ecology is an integral part of biology. But the trouble is, not everyone is a biologist . The modern specialization "ecologist" is just as commercialized as "psychologist". They are mostly attended by comrades who want to get "some higher education". With rare exceptions, of course. And naturally, demand creates supply. Therefore, many universities receive accreditation and train environmentalists, although in fact this is not their profile at all.

I don't like this word "young people"... there were real circles "Young entomologist" (I don't know if Ustyuzhanin still leads such a circle in Novosibirsk, and whether there are such circles somewhere). In the former USSR, a boy who was passionate about butterflies could come to ZIN, a specialist could pay attention to him, give him a topic for research (by the way, this is how Sinev started). FREE OF CHARGE.

There are such circles. Until recently, there were two of them in S-Pb, Zinovsky in the Palace of Foreign Players and Alexey Kupriyanov in the University. Now only Kupriyanovsky is functioning. If you are interested, then about it here:
http://tinea.narod.ru/

leads!

That's nice! I remember how he used to bring his children to Primorye in the early 90s. I imagined it: "This boy is engaged in ermine moths, and this girl is engaged in cover socks." And they were watched by female students who don't even know such families.

I watched an advertisement for an antipruritic remedy, and found analogs.

The girl catches a butterfly with a net, but misses.
"Eh....
"As I understand you! The guy next to me says sweetly.
"No, you don't understand me!!! You're not an entomologist!
"I understand perfectly! If you only knew what butterfly I missed yesterday!!!

2Dormidont:
It becomes clear that Haecklevite understanding of ecology is already an archaism today.
Well, we'll fight again! I speak as a university ecology teacher. We are shoved, among other things, into "non-core" faculties, according to their curricula drawn up by ignoramuses. So I am engaged there in lectures patching holes in the mass student's ideas about wildlife. As a result, I hope that the idea of ecology can be changed.

Yes, the reluctance of students to do anything that requires creativity, labor and time is simply amazing. The Department of Zoology is not listed there, because you have to work there! Interested people come across in a single number, and not every year. The rest of the crowd only needs a diploma, zakos from the army, etc., etc. I have been trying for several years to find a course teacher who will deal with insects, but so far I have been unsuccessful...

Well, this is your personal opinion. If we take into account the fact that ecologists are now trained in geographical faculties, plus there are all sorts of different specialties "near ecology".

Some time ago, I had to hear (second-hand information, but a reliable source - for what I bought...) that St. Petersburg State University started reading ecology on matmekh on its own...

And for the "ecologist of the customs service" special thanks! Lieutenant General of the autecological Service!