Trips

There were attempts to drive the classic car. They were not successful

The worst place there is at the entrance to the forest. So, it easily goes around the edge of the field. And, of course, everything strongly depends on the weather, especially in the previous
week.

Mikhail, I won't argue with you, but the VAZ 2104 tried to drive along the edge of the field. He managed to do it for a while, but then he got stuck. The weather then, however, was not very good.

We eat with Vladimir Vasilenko from 11 to 14 in Shilov forest (Voronezh region). If anyone wants to join us, we will be happy to do so.

it is very interesting if there is still a Tragosome!

I read about last year's hunt for this barbel… I very much doubt the effectiveness of this method. Well, maybe in 20-25 years such a trap will work. I also thought for a long time that the beetle flies from the pine forests surrounding the dacha, where it is hatched from recently dead pines, like coriarius.
It was getting closer and easier. Several times I observed how tragosomes are removed from old thick pine pillars with a diameter of 20-30 cm, supporting a fence in the country (Ts.Russia). And the fence and posts are 30 years old (!), no less.

I would like to clarify what these pillars are? Are they buried in the ground? Then it is not clear how they did not rot for 30 years, at least at the base.

Yes, dug into the ground and not rotted. And next to the same material shed 1930gg., the base without a foundation, dug into the ground and sturdy yet!

Several times I observed how tragosomes are removed from old thick pine pillars with a diameter of 20-30 cm, supporting a fence in the country (Ts.Russia). And the fence and posts are at least 30 years old (!).

I understand everything: you don't need exact coordinates of the point. At least indicate what area it is?

Nizhny Novgorod region.

I'm looking for a partner.

18-26. 06-Voronezh region for beetles
01-07. 07-Vladimir region for butterflies

phone: 8-903-1410700 Andrey

Andrew!
Where exactly to Vladimirskaya.
And for what butterflies. It is important.
I can participate.

"The six-legged ones, I suspect."...
- Well, no one is going to visit me at the KMV yet?... "I think Swanson intended it all, and Reaper -"
- I will go banal to Dagomys on the 27th. Poriedu on the 4th. If some brother-in-law is also going "to the sea" at the same time, then we will have an incentive to get our ass off beer and beach romance

This post was edited by Andreas - 14.06.2009 20: 39

Andrew!
Where exactly to Vladimirskaya.
And for what butterflies. It is important.
I can participate.

The very center of it, or as the locals say: "Here ends civilization." Join us if you are interested, just call back.

The very center of it, this is Vladimir.
What do you mean?
I was in Podolets (just from there). I was in Saryevo (2 years ago). Are you following the Apollons to the Red Lighthouse?
Then I'll participate.
You could still be more specific.
Sincerely, Papis.

I tuta wrote already in another topic that I am not Andrey, but his confidant.
Is it difficult for you to call? Well, what should you do?
He has a train tomorrow and will be unavailable.: - (

I'm going to the Carpathians, there are 2 weeks. And I'm at a complete loss! I've been there many times, but never really collected it. We plan to visit a couple of places, and one of them will be Shipot. I sit there for 2 days looking for "Fat" places in the maps - only I got even more confused).

Interested in Zlatki and everything that can be exchanged for zlatok), as well as barbels and carabuses.

I will also be glad to join the expedition. I plan to leave on 27, and until the number 2-3 I will fully devote myself to entomology (until my wife arrives )

I also decided to climb Hoverla, hang out there, then go through Petros to the Rakhovskaya highway and move towards Volovets

This post was edited by Tomas. Adzkee - 06/23/2009 20: 45

- Rpanin - write (he seems to live in Lviv) - he is just a bug hunter and knows the area very well.
- And today I'm going to shoot stress on the "paralia".... - Since no one can join at the same time , - I will relax "like a philistine". "I'm terribly tired."
"But I suspect that the attraction to littoral insects will, as always, pull me away from the attraction to beach women."..

I'm going to the Carpathians, there are 2 weeks. And I'm at a complete loss! I've been there many times, but never really collected it. We plan to visit a couple of places, and one of them will be Shipot. I sit there for 2 days looking for "Fat" places in the maps - only I got even more confused).

With Karabida, everything is fine there, even at the railway station in Yaremche. And so, of course, contact rpanin. Better than him on the forum, no one knows those places, perhaps.

I'm going to spend a week in fany, Tajikistan, maybe someone knows where and what you can catch there ,the exact place of artuch and the lakes near it.

hello everyone.tell me what and how to collect in early September in the Anapa region

Insects. You can use a net, you can use your hands.

"Gentlemen! - Urgent: - Where did Reaper lose his phone again??? "He was supposed to come to me in early July... - All its coordinates are silent!
- Also lost is Dorcadion (long ago), which Reaper went to before coming to me...

Ah! So Dorcadion's ripper is stuck. Now I see.

good evening tell me who can what of insects you can count on in September in the anapa area as with karabusami

last year, in May, I first went to Gelendzhik on the Markhotsky ridge traps put 3 karabus and that's it: smilie: From the trap with vinegar I expected something similar to the fees in Tver when after every night there were both karabuses and geotrups and in general there were beetles and here in fact zero result what is the secret?

Good morning elusive entomologists !Should I admit to pologal that you are responsive to communication , or is it generally accepted to ignore strangers?please explain what's what and then I do not know wait for answers to their own ,for you may not be interested, questions or not. sincerely Sergey.

Good morning elusive entomologists !Should I admit to pologal that you are responsive to communication , or is it generally accepted to ignore strangers?please explain what's what and then I do not know wait for answers to their own ,for you may not be interested, questions or not. Sincerely, Sergey .

Don't be offended. Summer, weekends, so everyone is trying to get enough for the whole year. Please wait until Monday. I myself visited the Anapa area in September (Abrau-Durso, Utrisht (I passed through the reserve), Anapa, Vityazevo, Vityazevskaya Spit), but I didn't catch anything special. The end of the season, pretty much everything is burned out, crowds of people. Specifically fishing was not engaged in and interest, mainly in butterflies. On Vityazeskaya Spit, if anything can move, it's only at night. Access to the Utrisht Nature Reserve is restricted, mainly for cars (I drove from Abrau). Walking is no problem.

last year, in May, I first went to Gelendzhik on the Markhotsky ridge traps put 3 karabus and that's it: smilie: From the trap with vinegar I expected something similar to the fees in Tver when after every night there were both karabuses and geotrups and in general there were beetles and here in fact zero result what is the secret?

Dear Sergey,

Sorry, off topic, but do you like the Coptolabrus subgenus? And isn't it just a coincidence that it matches your nickname?

Most of the forum members are now in the field, on expeditions - the height of the season! Therefore, you don't have to wait for an avalanche of answers.

On the substance of your question (what I know myself). The Anapa-Gelendzhik region is not the richest in carabuses, and their representatives are found there mainly in spring, partly in autumn (in summer, during the heat and drought, many people estivate). It is necessary to search in more wooded and remote places from the coast. In soil traps (see the relevant topic), the presence of something alcohol-containing (at least beer) is desirable. Some ground beetles on traps go badly or do not go at all (for example, Caucasian procerus), here only manual collection helps (in suitable biotopes, in the litter, under snags, logs, stones, etc. "sunbed") and his majesty, the case(!)

And what kind of karabus did you collect in May near Gelendzhik?

Dear Aaata, About the subgenus coptolabrus .I have a very vague idea about it due to the lack of literature, but I really liked what I saw .Unfortunately, I can't afford the prices at the moment .In Gelendzhik, I caught a kummanus on my way and found bluish elytra with longitudinal ribs ,I don't know what kind of ground beetle it is.And besides beer, what else can you use and how, in tandem with vinegar or without it? Does it make sense to catch on drl or not ? I will live in a wooded mountainous area away from the coast. And in general, what is there a chance to catch insects in that area?

it makes sense to catch by all possible methods. There are relevant topics about baits and traps.

Dear Aaata, About the subgenus coptolabrus .I have a very vague idea about it due to the lack of literature, but I really liked what I saw .Unfortunately, I can't afford the prices at the moment .In Gelendzhik, I caught a kummanus on my way and found bluish elytra with longitudinal ribs ,I don't know what kind of ground beetle it is.And besides beer, what else can you use and how, in tandem with vinegar or without it? Does it make sense to catch on drl or not ? I will live in a wooded mountainous area away from the coast. And in general, what is there a chance to catch insects in that area?

Bluish elytra with pronounced longitudinal ribs belong, most likely, to Carabus Megodontus exaratus or Carabus Megodontus septemcarinatus-see the images on the web or in the atlas. About chemical products.the composition of odors is very detailed in the topic "Soil traps".

In general, the species composition of insects in this region is quite rich, including those that can be collected in September –if you take only beetles and butterflies, then these are many hundreds and hundreds of species, mostly, of course, small and very small. You can't list all of them: to do this, you need to look at the faunal lists of the region. Among the notable and popular species (the first one that comes to mind), the same Carabus Procerus caucasicus caucasicus can be found in September (although it is more common in spring and early summer). Of the butterflies that come to light, just in September, the death's head hawk moth and oleander moth-if they interest you.

DRL fishing is one of the most effective methods of collecting insects. Carabuses actively crawl to the light source, they also find food for themselves in abundance here; small winged carabids, lamellidae, staphylinae, sylphids, many elaterids, etc., etc...., not to mention various lepidoptera-all this (with rare exceptions) flies well into the light.

last year, in May, I first went to Gelendzhik on the Markhotsky ridge traps put 3 karabus and that's it: smilie: From the trap with vinegar I expected something similar to the fees in Tver when after every night there were both karabuses and geotrups and in general there were beetles and here in fact zero result what is the secret?

Hm... Last year, spring was late, so not only everything, but in general Trachycarabus campestris perrini/planus (in general, that's his name), Megodontus exaratus, Eucarabus cumanus is known from Markotha, Procerus caucasicus is noted from there, but as far as I know, no one has caught it for a long time, In theory it should be Archiplectes prometheus, but it is closer to Gelendzhik, and in general, if you need Caucasian karabuses, come to Krasnodar, maybe I can help you...
PS I pour vinegar into the traps...

Hm... Last year, spring was late, so not only everything, but in general Trachycarabus campestris perrini/planus (in general, that's his name), Megodontus exaratus, Eucarabus cumanus is known from Markotha, Procerus caucasicus is noted from there, but as far as I know, no one has caught it for a long time, In theory it should be Archiplectes prometheus, but it is closer to Gelendzhik, and in general, if you need Caucasian karabuses, come to Krasnodar, maybe I can help you...
PS I pour vinegar into the traps...

thank you for the invitation, but unfortunately I won't be able to do it this year .and so want karabusov

Bluish elytra with pronounced longitudinal ribs belong, most likely, to Carabus Megodontus exaratus or Carabus Megodontus septemcarinatus-see the images on the web or in the atlas. About chemical products.the composition of odors is very detailed in the topic "Soil traps".

In general, the species composition of insects in this region is quite rich, including those that can be collected in September –if you take only beetles and butterflies, then these are many hundreds and hundreds of species, mostly, of course, small and very small. You can't list all of them: to do this, you need to look at the faunal lists of the region. Among the notable and popular species (the first one that comes to mind), the same Carabus Procerus caucasicus caucasicus can be found in September (although it is more common in spring and early summer). Of the butterflies that come to light, just in September, the death's head hawk moth and oleander moth-if they interest you.

DRL fishing is one of the most effective methods of collecting insects. Carabuses actively crawl to the light source, they also find food for themselves in abundance here; small winged carabids, lamellidae, staphylinae, sylphids, many elaterids, etc., etc...., not to mention various lepidoptera-all this (with rare exceptions) flies well into the light.

thank you for your advice I hope this trip will be more catchy than the previous one

Hm... Last year, spring was late, so not only everything, but in general Trachycarabus campestris perrini/planus (in general, that's his name), Megodontus exaratus, Eucarabus cumanus is known from Markotha, Procerus caucasicus is noted from there, but as far as I know, no one has caught it for a long time, In theory it should be Archiplectes prometheus, but it is closer to Gelendzhik, and in general, if you need Caucasian karabuses, come to Krasnodar, maybe I can help you...
PS I pour vinegar into the traps...

- I am already forced to write you, Dima, "full hearing"... - We agreed to meet near Tuapse in early April.
"None of your coordinates are responding.
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Guys advise where to go to the Caucasus (late August-September, preferably the coast) savages ? so that I can catch, and my wife to rest, and then I'm something that those places are not particularly..... The main thing is that there are fewer people, and then he is tired of

Guys advise where to go to the Caucasus (late August-September, preferably the coast) savages ? so that I can fish and my wife can rest, and then I don't really like those places..... The main thing is that there are fewer people, otherwise he is tired

Very briefly:
1. the decline in the number of people begins in the last week of August. It drops noticeably after September 10.
2. having a car is essential. In this case, it will be easy for you to catch fish and you will take your wife to small bays, where there are at least a few people. Otherwise, it will be difficult to get to the mountains or to deserted places. You can live in a civilized environment.
3. from point 2, it logically follows that there is no particular difference where to go. Purely geographically - the Gelendzhik-Tuapse section.

I would extend the recommended region further south, to Adler, and even better to Abkhazia.

And I would extend it to the north, to Anapa, or even the Crimea
On the Tuapse-Sochi section, it is more difficult to be a savage, although everything is possible. There are even campsites where you can stay with a tent. But there are more wild places in the north of Gelendzhik.
By the way, climate preferences are also important. To the south of Tuapse - humid, subtropical. To the north, just from Gelendzhik, the Mediterranean dry land begins. Accordingly, the insects are different. There's no one who has any preferences.

Guys there is no car..... so trouble! I chose some kind of camping on divnomorye where there is still security to go where the thread is, but I decided to ask you saveta

Guys there is no car..... so trouble! I chose some kind of camping on divnomorye where there is still security to go where the thread is, but I decided to ask you saveta

We are talking about the village of Divnomorskoe near Gelendzhik? If so, then there is somewhere to go - the foothills on all sides. Just don't feel sorry for your feet