Red Data Book of the Ryazan region. Entomology

Stas, you do not take into account only one stupid thing - in the Moscow region, a huge number of adequate and interested amateurs have been really catching for many years. And it's a species that anyone would notice - it's not a moth or even a dustpan. And all of them are still burning only one thing-they did not come across polyxene in the region. You, in spite of everything, on 2 random copies and on the basis of your strange wording: "I usually use zoogeographic burials rather than administrative divisions in my reasoning." you make an unambiguous and unshakable conclusion about the presence of the species in the Moscow region. About how naive and wrong this is, it's not for me to explain to you, you're a boy like an adult.

Stas, you do not take into account only one stupid thing - in the Moscow region, a huge number of adequate and interested amateurs have been really catching for many years. And it's a species that anyone would notice - it's not a moth or even a dustpan. And all of them are still burning only one thing-they did not come across polyxene in the region. You, in spite of everything, on 2 random copies and on the basis of your strange wording: "I usually use zoogeographic burials rather than administrative divisions in my reasoning." you make an unambiguous and unshakable conclusion about the presence of the species in the Moscow region. About how naive and wrong this is, it's not for me to explain to you, you're a boy like an adult.

Let's start with the fact that information about the found caterpillar has already passed here. That is, there are at least 2 certificates. Secondly, the late Yuri Borisovich was very meticulous in terms of labeling the material. If it says so, then it's true. He was a collector from God.

Well, the last thing - and the old woman is a hole. Regardless of how many people are caught, it is almost impossible to systematically catch the entire region of such a size as the MO, even if a hundred or two entomologists worked. Even in Germany, where there are an order of magnitude or even two more collectors, there are finds of large butterflies that were not previously recorded in Germany.

But it really surprises me a little. I give a specific point, supported by two pairs in the collection - and gentlemen skeptics begin to say that this can not be. The motives of this "resistance" are not clear to me.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust the importer. I'm just saying that it's too early for 2 pairs to make a conclusion about the presence of a species in the area. By the way, Elez also wrote about this.

About ten years ago (I may be wrong about the term) Nikitsky saw polixena in the PTZ (according to an eyewitness)...

Yes. saw. last year only. but I didn't catch it. And not in the PTZ, but in Lishnyagi, in the Serebryano-Prudsky district. One piece.

This post was edited by Necrocephalus - 07/29/2010 10: 18

All respect, I was on endless trips around the region...

The presence of a butterfly species on the border of the region is not a fact that the main population is not located on the adjacent territory, and those found in the MO are just a temporarily rooted population (with such a warming as now, I would not be surprised at all!). And this is quite a common practice for diaries (waves of life) to settle in new territories (if there are of course suitable conditions). So Egeria and the dryad began to settle in full force...

I was well acquainted with Yu. B. Kosarev - I can confirm that I never drove this blizzard, and his findings are worth listening to...

In the winter, we received disks (from the PSU) with videos about the current state of nature protection in those regions. Everything is just AWFUL! If the leopard bracky was shot in a cage in a protected area, then what can we say about another!! There, for example, oak forests will soon disappear!!! And whether it's worth protecting a bunch of insects that depend on it!??? They'll die anyway...

And the topic of the CC still glimmer on the Forum!?

This post was edited by Penzyak - 29.07.2010 11: 03

About ten years ago (I may be wrong about the term) Nikitsky saw Polixena in the PTZ (according to an eyewitness)...

Not in PTZ, but in Lishnyagi.

All respect, I was on endless trips around the region...

The presence of a butterfly species on the border of the region is not a fact that the main population is not located on the adjacent territory, and those found in the MO are just a temporarily rooted population (with such a warming as now, I would not be surprised at all!). And this is quite a common practice for diaries (waves of life) to settle in new territories (if there are of course suitable conditions). So Egeria and the dryad began to settle in full force...

I was well acquainted with Yu. B. Kosarev - I can confirm that I never drove this blizzard, and his findings are worth listening to...

In the winter, we received disks (from the PSU) with videos about the current state of nature protection in those regions. Everything is just AWFUL! If the leopard bracky was shot in a cage in a protected area, then what can we say about another!! There, for example, oak forests will soon disappear!!! And whether it's worth protecting a bunch of insects that depend on it!??? They'll die anyway...

And the topic of the CC still glimmer on the Forum!?

It was 1988...

According to the article about poliksen - there is information exclusively for the Penza region, that is, for a local publication. If it was in the Volga region, it probably would have been taken to a well-known magazine...

A magazine is a magazine, colleague Penzyak, so everything is in order here. If only the texts were adequate. Unknown Magazine is also a magazine, let's not get into snobbery and finger-pointing. Some people may still think that life gives authors a free choice between publishing in a reputable publication or publishing in a small-town collection. Unfortunately, the alternative to a second-class publication is usually not a metropolitan magazine (otherwise, who would choose a small-town magazine, they would not be published at all), but simply the lack of publication.
Therefore, if it is not possible to push ideas or discoveries into well-known journals, then it is better to stake them out at least in unknown ones than to release them (go hold the information) to walk through the air, and then find them in very reputable journals under some extraneous (but more punchy) surname. There are no copyright rules that discriminate against low-level magazines and collections for their "muhosranstvo", and from the point of view of protecting your copyright interests and research priority, it is better to publish what you are already sure of, where possible, than not to publish anywhere, and then look like a plagiarist in front of the public.someone who, as O. Bender would say, was the only one who managed to handle your case. And the fact that it is always better where it is better, no matter who argues (and even then-if, in a year or two of low - promising lying of the above text in a reputable magazine, the information again does not pop up a hundred times in print under a different name). Yes, there is no limit to perfection. But from the latest luxury fishing reports (T. Sinyaev), we know that there is still something that you can not jump above...
Two words again about polyxene. Kirkazon in the vicinity of the PTZ comes across, but from year to year it is very unstable. So it is theoretically quite possible to fly there and lay an egg in a weather-good year for spreading polyxena, the Oka Valley and the Crimea highway are normal routes; but this is not what I would call the presence of a species in the region. In twenty years of observation, I (and I'm not the only one) could have noticed such a horse. I would not assume today the presence of polyxena even in the south-east of the Moscow Region, from the Ryazan region, along the floodplain in the area of the same Beloomut (where kirkazon is full), because over the years of special searches, neither imago nor other stages were found (but I found a terrible variability in the presence of kirkazon). And getting on a stray copy or on its first-generation offspring is always possible, it's a matter of luck, not meticulousness of research. In another species, I was once lucky enough to come across a fresh brood from a random stray female that hadn't yet spawned, in a place that didn't even smell like it before or after.
Climate changes may provide a habitat (and not just an opportunity to find themselves) for polyxena in the south of the MO in the near future. To begin with, I would like to save the Ministry of Defense from those extremely low temperatures, which, even if not always for a long time, please us at least every second winter (although against the background of general warming), and sometimes until January (!) without pleasing the snow cover. For species that pupate the way polyxena pupates, this factor is more significant than any labels of lucky people who happened to be in the right place at the right time, and which I, who have been hilling the south of MO for decades, can only envy. And with me - and many other careful observers of those places.
In general, no Bible says that the monophagy of an insect necessarily means at least no less temperature endurance of an insect compared to a forage plant and, accordingly, the complete overlap of their ranges.

I heard that on the Oka river in the summer the forests burned strongly!?

In the MO close to the Oka River, not everywhere there are highly combustible forests. A little further from the Oka, the Prioksky forests were really burning, and here they were already talking about Kolomenskoye and Lukhovitsky districts. I don't know what the situation is on the northern bank before reaching Kashira, there is a young pine tree on the sand, but with good care, you can burn it down. If anyone knows about the surroundings of Akri and Belopesotskaya, let them tell us.
This summer, from Divnogorye, right from the plateau (I think there was my photo here), I observed a strong forest fire in the Don; according to subsequent information from local residents, the fire was not extinguished at all, it came to naught; in any case, in the few hours that I watched it, there was no trend to its extinction there was no sign of it; and that forest is a pine forest on the sands, and there is no talk of swamp or peat there.
At the beginning of this month, I found out about the situation in the PTZ from the local huntsman; it was said that in the summer they did not allow trouble on the territory of the reserve, that there was order along the Luzhki - Nikiforovo line; but in the spring, the forest in the PTZ burned. In those days, I was given a lift by a car that carried a barrel of gasoline in its backside to extinguish a fire (to fuel the tractors, of course, not to fill the flames). The car then drove past me twice more, the driver still could not find where to stop in the reserve.
There is most of all from kebabs from the Luzhkov side of the hassle, they will not learn at least away from the edge of the dry pine forest to arrange gatherings and put out bonfires. Sosnyak to the north-west of the lake. The stall is dozens of meters deep in a terrible state, full of charred and fallen wood. This has not been achieved this year, but has accumulated over the past few years.
And it would be good to learn about the Ryazan region from knowledgeable comrades.

I don't know specifically along the Oka River, but along the Ryazan highway to Ryazan almost everywhere was on fire, and after Ryazan it wasn't (I drove through on August 25).

On Wednesday, I returned from the Kasimov district of Moscow. regions. I specifically traveled through the surrounding forests to assess the size of the disaster. In short, in the area of Gus-Zhelezny, about 1,000 hectares of forest along the border with the Vladimir region were burned out. The fires were low-lying, in some places the forest can resist. Unfortunately, the Colias palaeno stations known to me were caught in the fire, and Arichanna melanaria, V. optilete, and C. hero were also present at the same stations. That's how the Station P. apollo and D. mnemosine did not catch on. On the Oka River itself, there were no fires, i.e. there will be polyxene.

Riazans - how are you working on the new edition of the Red Book of the Ryazan region? Who oversees essays on insects?? When do you plan to release the volume "Animals"???

The work on insects is supervised by A. E. Blinushov.
The Red Book, in my opinion, will be published in 2011.
Of the last interesting things, I found the second habitat of the steppe scolia, and in the same station (the mixed-grass left-bank floodplain of the river. Previously unknown pigeon spots daphnis and korydon, as well as pestryanka-ephialt, were discovered.
interestingly, the territory is closed-the land of the Ministry of Defense. the floodplain was not plowed up and was not used for pastures and hayfields for a very long time.
All this strongly convinced me that the appearance in recent years of previously unknown Galatea and Russian melanargia is not the result of climatic changes, but to a much greater extent the result of agricultural degradation. We have identified new points of golubyanka teley. Species gradually develop abandoned farmland and suffer less from agricultural chemicals.
Mass finds of polyxena almost all over the Oka floodplain within the region only strengthen the arguments.
Although the anomalies of a hot summer can be confusing. Bindweed hawk moth in Mikhailov caught about 10 times.

Alexey, in my opinion, both Galatea and Suvorovka simply had to be in the region at settled places before - just no one got to the right time for the release of fresh copies (when they are locally and in a heap - and most importantly they fly badly).

Unfortunately, abandoned agricultural fields have not increased the number and quality of lepidoptera in our region. This year I somehow specifically (along the way) walked through some abandoned fields for a long time - the result is depressing...

This year, they got tired of bringing mantises - I found them on lawns in the city myself. In Mordovia and Chuvashia rejoice-a new look... Bindweed hawkmoth is a good migrant - Blinushev wrote earlier about finding live pupae of bindweed in your field (and at the same time inserted my comment on this species in his article - at least he changed the words or phrases... He didn't even thank me...) at the end of summer, it seems that the butterflies also came out...

I am flipping through the CC of the Samara region (2007) - the quality of printing and content is amazing with the amount of work done! It looks like the highest quality Red Book in the Volga region! The only drawback is that the book format is small and the font is very small, you will break your eyes... Looking for their new volume of CC Samara region. Animals. Maybe someone knows the address??

Suvorovka migrates wonderfully. I've been fishing, though, for a lot of years, even in Neftyanik, MO, Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district in ' 98. I have been fishing in the Ryazan region for more than 15 years, and this year, for example, the catocala pakta, which is hardly widely known in the Ryazan region, arrived.

At the expense of the migration of Suvorovka is doubtful - and the fact that it strongly flies from the places of brood is a fact!
We have this summer in the oak forests flew well, just a cloud - Catocala sponsa! It was considered a rare species...

This post was edited by Penzyak - 21.10.2010 11: 02

When will you submit to the press CC of the Ryazan region-Tomsk!? Who to trade with-buy?

This post was edited by Penzyak - 19.11.2010 16: 47

At the expense of the migration of Suvorovka is doubtful - and the fact that it strongly flies from the places of brood is a fact!
We have this summer in the oak forests flew well, just a cloud - Catocala sponsa! It was considered a rare species...

waves of life. in the 3rd year, it seems that the ecology course teaches this.

I hope that the new article on bulavousym of the Ryazan region will be taken into account in the essays on diaries.

When will you submit to the press CC of the Ryazan region-Tomsk!? Who to trade with-buy?

Try ordering from the publisher: tel. (8482) - 489-977, email: <ievbras2005@mail.ru>.

Hello everyone
With GREAT difficulty, I managed to get the CC of the Samara region Volume II Animals, 2009.
To be honest, I expected the BEST from such a solid publication (their volume is out of competition in general, in the Volga region there is no doubt, only the format and fonts let me down, too small...).
There are quite a lot of essays on insects (2/3 of the book), insects are drawn, fractional categories – there are also 0 (disappeared), in some essays I was surprised by the lack of points on maps and for some reason the points of Pallas and Eversmann were taken into account (??).
The big minus is that the text itself is often very small and sparse (literally nothing about than!!!) - the map and picture take up more than half the page!??
There were plenty of co-authors, all of them trying to get through the hell out of ... quite a few essays on ground beetles, small beetles, and butterflies.
I was struck by the absence of bees (but no, there are three xylocops and a few bumblebees... and THAT's IT...).
Just killed the list of taxa that require special attention-1 staphylin, 1 barbel and 1 hemerob... and THAT's IT.
These are the popular science books that come out.

I still haven't received a response from Ryazan: what's up with the new edition of the Red Book? On the above "soap" are silent... And that all three volumes of the CC will be reprinted???

1) Publication of the Red Book is scheduled for 2011 - 2 volumes-plants and animals. I understand that the layouts are ready. We have replaced the Minister of Ecology - a new businessman. I feel like I'm in trouble.
2) The zoologists who compiled the lists are stingy - I can't even get a complete list of species. Moreover, the report on the Red Book is available on the website of our Ministry of Natural Resources, but it is insanely difficult to find it. As soon as I get the electronic version, I'll post it for everyone's consideration.

I still haven't received a response from Ryazan: what's up with the new edition of the Red Book? On the above "soap" are silent... And that all three volumes of the CC will be reprinted???

The zoologists who compiled the lists are so stingy that I can't even get a complete list of species. Moreover, the report on the Red Book is available on the website of our Ministry of Natural Resources, but it is insanely difficult to find it. As soon as I get the electronic version, I'll post it for everyone's consideration.

Isn't this the list that follows these links?
http://mediaryazan.ru/articles/detail/68273.html
http://www.rzn.info/articles/world/38697/

Wow!!!
Thank you very much!
Everyone's hiding everything from each other here."
Apparently, they are afraid that before the book itself is reprinted, the lists may be criticized, their correctness challenged , and they will have to be redone.
I just don't have any other ideas

Wow!!!
Thank you very much!
Everyone's hiding everything from each other here."
Apparently, they are afraid that before the book itself is reprinted, the lists may be criticized, their correctness challenged , and they will have to be redone.
I just don't have any other ideas

No, I didn't get that impression, to be honest . Both links were found on Google the first time. Who is looking, he will always find!

KK of Chuvashia is already in print! What about the Ryazan region CC??

KK of Chuvashia is already in print! What about the Ryazan region CC??

Ready for publication. Unlike the previous version, it will contain photos, not drawings. The approach hasn't changed.

Recently I received new volumes of the Chuvash Cultural Center - interesting and well-published books.
What's new about your Ryazan region CC? Yes, our nerds have started working on a new edition of their volume. We (entomologists) have greatly helped them in this by collecting new and rare plants on trips around the Penza region! We have collected so much material that we are now writing a new joint (!) article on the flora of the region.