Red Data Book of the Ryazan region. Entomology

Thanks! I think the same. But, unfortunately, the protection of biotopes and in general any territories in our modern conditions is extremely difficult for administrative and commercial reasons, and not so profitable from the point of view of reporting, than catching a couple of entomologists-poachers By the way, I was surprised to find that the case of writing a CC is already regulated by official people. Here is a link to the Red List laboratory of the Federal State Institution "VNIIprirody": http://www.rinpro.ru/lrb/ Has anyone ever dealt with this office? And to what extent are their recommendations and guidelines mandatory?

For entomologists, their recommendations seem to be very authoritative. The proportions of insect reproduction and the percentage of survival of their individuals to the adult stage, described in scientific works and in children's books, alas, as life has shown, even some entomologists still do not realize. And in the office you indicated, it seems that the protection of bedbugs will be approached conscientiously, spreading to them everything they know about moose and wild boar. I will only give you the beginning of the information about the manager:

"Prisyazhnyuk Vitaly Yemelyanovich-born in 1939, head of the Red Book laboratory, Candidate of Biological Sciences, zoologist with a specialization in ungulate biology. The last 15 years have been devoted to the protection of rare species, legal, scientific, methodological, informational and organizational issues of the formation of the "Red Book movement" in the country, and the maintenance of the Red Book of Russia.
Author (and co-author) of more than 180 scientific publications, including 8 books. An active participant and one of the authors of two editions of the Red Book of the USSR and the Red Book of the Russian Federation (Animals, 2001). The main ideologist and developer of the Red Book of the CIS.
After graduating from Moscow State University in 1963, he worked for 7 years in the Lazovsky (Suzukhinsky) Nature Reserve of Primorsky Krai, where he became a hoof zoologist."

Unfortunately, the certificate does not indicate which environmental grants (by amount and source) were worked out by the specified hoof zoologist and when.

Reading such biographies, you feel your own scientific insignificance. This is how the pointing finger from the poster for the protection of insects is presented: "And you took place as an artiodactyl?" By God, it's time to create a society of Critics of Red Books (abbreviated "K. K. K.").

Unfortunately, it should be recognized that in the history of CC, the participation of professional entomologists has also been quite conformist, and sometimes entomologists have even surpassed both natural writers and legislators in zeal. Nomina sunt odiosa. So here you need to step up step by step, correctly orienting public opinion, replacing tearful harassment and swearing at "knacker" collectors with an adequate idea of the world of insects and the world of entomologists,and, as far as possible, influencing scientific and especially environmental activities in this direction.

The volume of the purely reference red series published by the office you indicated, dedicated to invertebrates (2nd issue, part 2 of the series), I don't want to comment, but it is compiled by competent people, there are both Sviridov and Nikitsky in the authors. Alas, the preface strongly defends the great authority of higher-level lists, etc., for regional CC's. Actually, the collection is just a list with an indication of the categories and regions that protect this or that type with their own lists and CC. Special mention is made of the legal force of the CC (as if laws come from God, and are not concocted by assistants to deputies in the relevant Duma and so on. committees that are also drawn from specialists). Of course, there are no recommendations on either a radical change in the legislation in relation to insects, or on methods of overcoming the imperfection of legislation in the preparation of the CC. Moreover, it criticizes the inconsistency of other local CC's with higher-level documents, and even talks about the possibility of administrative responsibility for the heads of such regions. This is for the benefit of optimists. And the only paragraph on page 6 deserves our general attention, I suggest a picture (from a mobile phone, but you can see it).

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Two links to the question of "nature protection" and CC. I don't like to panic myself, but what can I do if my hair literally stands on end after reading the documents? The guys are already taking up the task very widely and the rod is like tanks, and the momentum is only increasing over time. The entire Moscow region is literally overgrown with wildlife sanctuaries of all sorts, judging by one of the texts; but the author also demands an absolutely unthinkable inflation of their number and area... One gets the impression that hypomaniacs from ecology would be happy to save the whole Earth, where all people (except, of course, the sponsors of all this nonsense) will not get out of their asphalt ghettos... The most paradoxical thing is that behind all this there is not only complete indifference to the fate of protected species, but also a complete lack of even interest in them. After all, it has already been said many times that the dispersion of efforts and funds only reduces nature protection to nothing, leaving only the protection of individuals who do not give anything to nature just for the sake of harassment.

The proposed materials make it clear:
who works,
on whose grants,
with what measure of validity for objects of protection and territories,
with what degree of legal frenzy;
and most importantly: do unprotected natural territories have the right to exist at all (in the future madhouse of the future planned by some people on the territory of the USSR) (except for those that have long been called natural by no one)? turns)? Or, in general, only protected areas with a certain fence height and a list of prohibitions should remain in nature? What is the land of even the "state reserve" (and whose reserve it really is), we have been seeing for many years, at least on the example of the construction nightmare behind Krasnaya Polyana.

Well-wishers, having nothing against (and this is an understatement) reducing the number of people on our land, the rest of the fauna here really want to protect, as well as the flora. They need all this in the best possible way, so that those who are allowed to live on this land, God forbid, do not spoil anything in the remaining time. They have already come up with a technical tool that allows them to destroy people while maintaining their economic capacity. And the echelon of nature conservation grant-givers is working to maximize the preservation of the gene pool of wild nature on our land, giving out everything that is possible for unique and endangered, and for these species taking away entire vast territories from us, where our own guards of our forest will be kept from ourselves out of our own pocket and where bans no longer concern rarities (even if not fake ones), but everything in general. They're trying. I recall Chekhov's Tsutsikov, who during the fire of the manor house so fought with fire, "as if he defended his own". Chekhov's story is very short, but by the end of the story Tsutsikov had already snatched up all the landlords ' property and was busy smoking out the owner, who did not notice when he managed to become an ex...

http://www.biodiversity.ru/programs/experiment/shb.pdf
http://www.biodiversity.ru/programs/econet...mosc/index.html

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Another link (I think it's familiar to many) – about how it will soon come to the creation of fauna cadastres (and this is always just a step towards creating a CC) for each village; anthropogenic pressure will come, and environmentalists will not make a peep, but any local person will now be able to frolic on private individuals. The document contains brilliant phrases (about the Yegoryevsky district of the Moscow Region):

"We need to know what WE want to keep"

and just below - an explanation of this very " we " (this is for the Yegoryevsky district of the Moscow Region!):

"The site was created at the expense of the authors and received the support of the MatraKAP Program of the Embassy of the Kingdom of the Netherlands."

I wonder if someone in the West would have recently allowed Soviet biologists to draw up a list of species that need protection in a Western country, and the Soviet treasury to finance on this basis the compilation of a list of prohibitions for citizens of this country on their behavior in their own forests and fields?

http://egornature.by.ru/index.html

Creating regional Red Books is complete nonsense!So it will come to the KK of your, my and that garden.Such publications with Ligeia,Alexis, etc. become unique monuments of the extremes of Russian nature protection.
With these funds, it would be better to publish a beautiful illustrated book about the surrounding nature, even in the Ryazan region.It would be more useful for people.Otherwise,the person still doesn't know what is crawling under his nose...

Creating regional Red Books is complete nonsense!So it will come to the KK of your, my and that garden.Such publications with Ligeia,Alexis, etc. become unique monuments of the extremes of Russian nature protection.
With these funds, it would be better to publish a beautiful illustrated book about the surrounding nature, even in the Ryazan region.It would be more useful for people.Otherwise,the person still doesn't know what is crawling under his nose...

I strongly disagree: delirium is the Red Book of the Russian Federation.
Because on such a huge territory, the same species is rare in some places, and in others it is common (take the same apollo), but at the regional level, identifying rarities and protecting their biotopes is a useful thing.

I strongly disagree: delirium is the Red Book of the Russian Federation.
Because on such a huge territory, the same species is rare in some places, and in others it is common (take the same apollo), but at the regional level, identifying rarities and protecting their biotopes is a useful thing.

And I don't agree with you. Just in relation to modern Russia, your proposed option is not viable. And the reasons here are not entomological at all.

In my opinion, the red lists themselves are not yet an environmental action, but only a preparation for it. And if we want local lists to work, and not lie under the cloth, being, at best, informative reading for environmentalists, then without the federal (upper vertical)one KK now can not do without. We do not implement any local legal act until it receives legislative and legal support and, more importantly, financial (and control) support from the Center. And in our conditions, a document called the Red Book of the Russian Federation is one of the necessary guarantors on the part of the state. And then, after all, at the top they will look at local creativity like this: "you never know what they wrote there...". And we were just waiting for this: you can not be puzzled by the protection of biotopes and other real environmental activities, limiting yourself to the usual talking and papermaking...

And I don't agree with you. Just in relation to modern Russia, your proposed option is not viable. And the reasons here are not entomological at all.
[...]

So are we talking about life or the Vertical?
Incompatible things...

About life.Alas! depending on the Vertical. I don't know maybe somewhere else.

I'll put it simply. Without the Red Data Book of Russia, no one will even look at it (especially those who depend on something). What's wrong with my message? You have a perfect diagram, I don't dispute that. But it is far from life, because it does not take into account objective realities, and therefore cannot work effectively now (explained why).
So, the federal Red Book is needed at least for this, albeit formal, reason.

DISAF and kotbegemot, in my opinion, do not so much "disagree" with each other as they look at the case from different, but equally important sides. It is absolutely true that grabastat view under protection from (almost said: from Brest) From the Smolensk Region to the Kuril Islands, with the spread of its population density in various points from zero to "like mud" - really profanity of nature protection and continuous sabotage of science. But you can guess what it means to transfer the protection of Golubyanka to the local authorities, knowing what it means to transfer some benefits to veterans and disabled people in housing and free cars to the local budgets. So there is nothing to say about the protection of insects. In addition, protection implies not only an indication from above of which species to protect, but also the ability of local greenies to isolate exactly that species from another. One of my friends from near Odessa at one time actively fought with saturnia pyri on his plot (although he killed no more than a couple a year, thank God, he did not come across more), because in the book about garden pests I did not find anything more similar to it than Cossus cossus, and the article the idea of the latter's talents horrified the wrestler.

The Red Book as such has at least minimal meaning only when it is a national document – both in terms of its status and the object of consideration. However, it should be compiled with all possible rigor and with mandatory indication of the regions of protection or subspecies as objects of protection (i.e., go to the level of subspecies in most articles). It should be based on faunal data for the entire territory of the State. Here you need dialectic: the document is all-Russian, but the protection measures in the articles are required not from the whole of Russia (this is absolutely complete nonsense in all cases), but for specific regions or even farms where the species is available, and at the same time objectively (and not as "decorating nature") needs protection, and where there is a real possibility of protection while excluding harassment for "harvesting" from the number of measures: if plowing in a year or two of the field under the endemic is no longer prevented today – as, say, the villainous destruction of the Imereti lowland today-then continue to punish until the last day of the life of this field for "harvesting" the doomed population on it both stupid and harmful. And the type, I repeat, must be reliably established for the region for which protection is provided. Tt. Omelko wrote (back in 1991) about how absurd it is to talk about its protection in the USSR in the absence of a species in the USSR (the case concerned, in particular, finding out the actual taxonomic affiliation of the Far Eastern bramea, which turned out to be tancrei, while the CC, I remember, by inertia demanded to protect certhia).

The protection of the species should therefore be localized: why should people, say in Cadua, know how rare polyxena is in the central regions, and how should Caducians follow the recommendations for its protection? But the document must be national, and in today's conditions, local authorities cannot be counted on for thicker issues. The state is of less use than anything else, what can we say about the authorities in the surrounding areas, where, moreover, they still do not distinguish staphylin from earwigs everywhere...

However, it seems that the question of KK does not require excessive intensity of passions in principle. The point is in colonial, i.e. absolutely no, law enforcement, and not in scientific word disputes. When we talk about the CC, we forget that apart from shaking our fists for "collecting", the CC can't really do anything else in the field of nature protection. Fences of nature reserves are still some business, but they do not insure their territories from, to put it mildly, non-core buildings and other uses, and in unprotected territories, the authorities generally do not care about the protection of biotopes in principle – more precisely, for a green show, they inflate the censer because of one foreman who tore off an extra hundred acres of landscape so that we do not we have noticed the vast natural territories that are being destroyed for people who are more untouchable than the foreman who takes his breath away for them.

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In Ukraine, the "Red Book" ("CCU") serves as a good help in preserving various natural communities and tracts. The presence of Red Book guards on their territory is an argument in favor of removing them from economic activity. And let it be a swallowtail, a stag beetle, and a few dozen other common species - who is worse off? So let the swallowtail stay in the CC ...

For a good cause, a bumblebee complex will also work. Yes, and cabbage is not a sin to look closely...

Wow!!! Wonderful forum. I want to collect my thoughts and present my ideas for the Red Book.
In the meantime, let's talk about the facts.

I searched for 21 years, traveled all over Ryazan, long ago lost heart and ..... found.
Apollo exists in the Ryazan region.
July 19, while I will not specify exactly where-I am a fierce enemy of all sorts of collectors-in the Kasimov district came across.
There are 5 meetings on the 3-kilometer route.
I didn't catch a single one, but I took a picture, held it in my hands, and most importantly, took it on camera. He carried the camera for hundreds of kilometers.
I still can't get over it.

And I also found a new point on mnemosyne - what a local view: a plot along the edge of an oak forest with a length of 150 meters. Inside - the usual view, outside - as cut off.

I found two new points of polyxena and two-podaliriya, dipper hera under the Rivets and three new points of golubyanka telei. I haven't published my data yet.

I have a question. Caught the bear Arctia flavia south of the village of Tuma. Who she is. It wasn't listed in the region's species list.

Sincerely, Associate Professor of the Department of Physical Geography of Ryazan State University, A.V. Vodorezov

Dear Associate Professor of the Department of Physical Geography of Ryazan State University, A.V. Vodorezov,
Most of your findings are no longer of interest, because they are covered in abundance by one of the forum participants. But Arctia flavia can really be of interest. Did you save the instance?

Arctia flavia. 1 copy is safe and sound. Caught in the village of Mamasevo, Klepikovsky district, 3 copies. in the period from 1992 to 1994. Mixed grass and cereal meadows adjacent to the lake. Wattle fence from the south. I also met Podaliriya there (June 10-11, 2005).

If the authors of the future CC of the Ryazan region took care of its competent compilation, this is already GOOD! Often, such projects completely ignore CC published in neighboring regions. But in vain! Only dialogue and basic knowledge of the entomological situation on the ground, + contacts with specialists in certain groups of insects are the key to success!
Yes, that's why the regional CC should mark / protect BOREAL species in them - as indicators of rare and endangered landscapes!
Citizens who perceive the Red Books as a RED RAG for cattle, please "do not clog the air"! We've got enough windbags on the ground!
Good luck to our Ryazan colleagues.

Dear mikee.
Tell me where you have seen Apollo in Kasimov district. I'm going to continue shooting a film about the Red Book species. But it is very difficult to get to Sosnovka. And your population is somewhere under the Goose, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not going to catch it. But I really want to remove this strange predator-scaring behavior.
I'm ready to share video frames.

Thank you in advance.
As for mnemosyne, the Panika Forest north of Elatma is the base of the valley slope at the junction with the floodplain. Caught in early June 2009.

Hello Penzyak.
We are now really working on the publication of a new red book and we accept all advice, of course, on the case.
the main principle is to search for a species and protect its habitats. It's stupid to protect the species itself, and that's long gone.
But we call our eyes to the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment in an attempt to save everything that is still left, until Muscovites have sold out.
they inflated an unthinkable scandal and temporarily stopped the construction of the road through the Oka nature reserve.
I haven't talked to Blinushov for a very long time. the main question is what to do with Arctia flavia-I think I saw it in the Red Book, it seems, of the adjacent Vladimir region.

Dear mikee.
Tell me where you have seen Apollo in Kasimov district. I'm going to continue shooting a film about the Red Book species. But it is very difficult to get to Sosnovka. And your population is somewhere under the Goose, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not going to catch it. But I really want to remove this strange predator-scaring behavior.
I'm ready to share video frames.

Thank you in advance.
As for mnemosyne, the Panika Forest north of Elatma is the base of the valley slope at the junction with the floodplain. Caught in early June 2009.

Good afternoon. On this topic - via private messages, please. What kind of defensive reaction do you have in mind? This is when a butterfly falls on its back and rustles its legs? To be honest, I think this is a story from old books, because in real life, butterflies just fly away at breakneck speed

PS. Under the Goose there are all five species of Papilionidae

Good afternoon. On this topic - via private messages, please. What kind of defensive reaction do you have in mind? This is when a butterfly falls on its back and rustles its legs? To be honest, I think this is a story from old books, because in real life, butterflies just fly away at breakneck speed
 
PS. Under the Goose there are all five species of Papilionidae

If it is not possible to run away, it falls on its back and rubs its paws on the underside of its wings, making a rustling sound-I myself have repeatedly observed this. For example, if you find it early in the morning, and even in the dew, when the wings are wet and heavy. Sometimes, even when covered with a net, it does not beat in it, but acts in this way. This is a stupor-like reaction, but with motor automatism. But more often, of course, there is a typical flight reaction.

If it is not possible to run away, it falls on its back and rubs its paws on the underside of its wings, making a rustling sound-I myself have repeatedly observed this. For example, if you find it early in the morning, and even in the dew, when the wings are wet and heavy. Sometimes, even when covered with a net, it does not beat in it, but acts in this way. This is a stupor-like reaction, but with motor automatism. But more often, of course, there is a typical flight reaction.

I have seen this, but only in rain or cold weather, i.e. really in a state when it can't fly. But to consider this a typical reaction is somehow strange...

I have seen this, but only in rain or cold weather, i.e. really in a state when it can't fly. But to consider this a typical reaction is somehow strange...

And such a reaction is not typical. On the contrary, it is infrequent in the species and, you will agree, unusual. It doesn't seem to occur in other butterflies. However, I do not know how with this other representatives of the genus?

And such a reaction is not typical. On the contrary, it is infrequent in the species and, you will agree, unusual. It doesn't seem to occur in other butterflies. However, I do not know how with this other representatives of the genus?

Alas, offhand: Cornelio " School atlas-determinant...", Mamaev " School atlas-determinant.."this behavior is interpreted as typical. And these are not the only links, just the first ones that come to mind. I can't say anything about other representatives of the genus, I didn't notice anything about those that I caught.

You never know what behavior is typical for apollo. But it is typical of Apollo to roll over backwards and move the front wings a little back and forth, scraping the underside of the wings with its paws. I don't recall any other Parnassii (most likely, too), but I definitely noticed it in Apollo. This is not only due to non-flying weather. If a butterfly gets entangled (when attacking an entomologist, a bird, etc.) in the lower reaches of dense grass, it usually tends not to take off (it is useless to get out of the grass, they will get caught earlier), but, on the contrary, to duck into the very depths. Apollo's reaction in this situation is to tip over and rustle his paws on the wings. Or – the situation with a female who has not yet dropped her eggs and is relatively heavy on the rise; or with a stunned butterfly, etc.By the way, live parnassius pull on the hind wings and in a bag for a sweet soul (when there are several bags of live apollo in the box, the rustling is such that you can hear the whole room). True, this does not matter, since a live copy is usually taken for brood (and not from among the luxury ones), and not for a collection, but for brood and shingles it is suitable.

And Apollo really knows how to run away, including our democratus, the wings are powerful, and the flight is uneven with a vspug. It even happens that it rapidly goes with a screw up from the clearing behind the crown of the forest, sometimes not returning to its native place at all, but flying over the crown to sufficiently distant other suitable stations. In the Kaluga region, I have also observed this, where the population (especially in the Zhizdra floodplain and nearby forests) is very scattered, but most often in small patches, sometimes separated by kilometers of continuous forest. Therefore, it is there that apollo can easily lay eggs (in the case of a fatal or temporary disturbance of the biotope, this has happened there) and in a rather remote place. There is even a way to test the ability of females to fly irrevocably to other stations in a limited area (a clearing, for example).

By the way: anyone who keeps live apollos at home (say, milking females) can put a butterfly with open wings on the bottom of the cage with its paws up, in this position the butterfly should start scratching its paws along the underside of the wings.

I also forgot to add: you don't have to roll over to make a rustle. After all, it is necessary to rustle in a free position, from which it is not too late to rush and fly away in case of something. It is perfectly normal for a butterfly that anticipates danger to move its front wings forward, showing all the red spots of its hind wings, and hold on (to the grass, say) with its front and middle legs, while scratching the underside of its wings with its hind legs. You just need to look closely to notice it.

I also forgot to add: you don't have to roll over to make a rustle. After all, it is necessary to rustle in a free position, from which it is not too late to rush and fly away in case of something. It is perfectly normal for a butterfly that anticipates danger to move its front wings forward, showing all the red spots of its hind wings, and hold on (to the grass, say) with its front and middle legs, while scratching the underside of its wings with its hind legs. You just need to look closely to notice it.

You don't have to roll over.. that's for sure... I will add that this behavior in democratus is more common in females... However, this is not a book myth, but a fairly standard procedure for intimidating entomologists

Thank you, friends. The information is exhaustive.
I'll try to make them rustle their paws. True, it's a long time to wait - summer is just around the corner.
As for the locality of Apollo, I have these observations.
It seems to fly in a small clearing on the outskirts of an old pine forest. The sun sroetsya-kick in the grass. You touch it with your finger - it barely crawls. The sun will come out-as a substitute. He already cares about flowers. .. suddenly, out of nowhere, it takes off and flies headlong away through the clearing. It disappears from the field of view about 300 meters away and apparently flies further.
I also understand birds - they feed their chicks like this - we have a whole department of zoologists studying their feeding behavior (who is a warbler, who is a warbler, who is a woodpecker). But where and why the Apollos go when no one scares them is a mystery to me. Maybe someone saw something like this?

To Alexander Vodorezov (and all those who study Apollo in the European part of Russia and the Urals):
As for the behavior of the Apollons, their biology and ecology, I have a whole article based on materials from the territory of the Penza Region. Who-where the Apollons are going is also there! There are a lot of questions about QC. Flavia, however, had a banal appearance-he caught and fed the caterpillars with cereals. That's just not in all areas this species is found in the Penza region-strange, but a fact!??
Мой e-meil: entomol-penza@yandex.ru

Thank you for your flavia info.
It's just that, judging by the articles,
we know only 2 locations in the entire history of studying fauna.
Dear Penzyak, if it is not difficult, throw in a personal article on Apollo.
Two words about the real situation with the Red Book of the Ryazan region.
1) On the fauna of hymenopteran stingrays: I remember that Denis Kochetkov, born in 1978, studied them. The collection became a museum of the Russian State University, and he now works in the Far East in the Kedrovaya Pad Nature Reserve. Who will update the lists is unknown;
2) entomologist S. V. Pogonin works in the Oka Nature Reserve, but he only deals with highly specialized areas such as dolichopodid and trichopodid flies;
3) Beetles are also a problem. Apparently there are fans, but there is no consistency;
4) With butterflies, at first glance, it is a little easier. but apparently experts and amateurs in the forum have much more information than the compilers. And I really don't want the new book to be published just for form's sake. I want more science. That's why we collect data wherever possible.
The general direction is to protect not the species itself - this is too naive for insects, but the habitats (we now have exactly 100 natural monuments in the region, the size of the first hectares) and, moreover, so that they, like everything else, are not sold into private hands. But the entire east and north-east of the region is generally unfrozen.
Therefore, we look forward to any new information.

Twice I wrote you a detailed response to this message - but for some reason everything flies off!?
Briefly:
1. Two contemporary articles by Sergey Shibaev and Lena Baranovskaya have already been published on your bees (I thought you knew...??). Mikhail Mokrousov (N. Novgorod) knows the os well.
2. There are few specialists in diptera! I'm trying to deal with the fees of my ktyry - but I need a field specialist.
3.Consult your neighbors (specialists in this group) about beetles. For example, Denis Potanin (Nizhny Novgorod) and Yegorov (Chuvashia).
4. What about Pancakes? Isn't he participating in a new project of the Ryazan Region CC??? Unfortunately, I didn't collect it on the territory of the Ryazan region. But I can give you some advice on your butterflies.
The fact that it is necessary to protect BIOTOPES is already clear (sorry). I liked your CC on protected areas (volume 3 of the CC of the Ryazan region). Almost all our protected areas were created by botanists! And this is very bad - I have to visit them in the first place, and they (half!) just a piece of land with a rare plant...

Flavia, however, had a banal appearance-he caught and fed the caterpillars with cereals. That's just not in all areas this species is found in the Penza region-strange, but a fact!??
My e-meil: entomol-penza@yandex.ru

Oleg, what biotopes do you have flavia in?

This post was edited by mikee - 22.01.2010 17: 11

I think that the CC of such microscopic regions as Moscow and the regions of European Russia do not make any scientific sense. These are just minor political acts-it is required in the region to have a CC-on-hold. Sometimes, however, writing a CC allows you to summarize some faunal information. That is, there is a benefit, but it would look much more effective on the pages of a magazine - because CC things are not very affordable and very expensive for the consumer.

I think that the CC of such microscopic regions as Moscow and the regions of European Russia do not make any scientific sense. These are just minor political acts-it is required in the region to have a CC-on-hold. Sometimes, however, writing a CC allows you to summarize some faunal information. That is, there is a benefit, but it would look much more effective on the pages of a magazine - because CC things are not very affordable and very expensive for the consumer.

I will add: It's time to invent a new type of book: the " Black Book "(this is about the life of Homo sapiens)

Yes, with such a philosophy, we will go far...

It is very similar to the recent postulate-all for new species, you give research (black ones where) on the edge of the empire of Russia or the USSR. And what is being done under your nose is not interesting and not very PROMISING...

I remembered the late Alexey Isaev (Ulyanovsk) - he looked far ahead, his dream was to create the Volga Region CC (at least the Middle One), alas...

If you understand a little geography (economic, for example), it will become clear how and why the fauna of the "microscopic" regions of the European part of Russia has become this way and not another... With endemics, we certainly have a lot of tension, alas - as a result of what we came to this, I think there is no need to explain!? In this case, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation could help, but the set (microscopic!!!) species and their often controversial value / rarity sometimes raises questions (for example, on the carpenter bee). Ie completely unaccounted for (as prvilo) regional studies on the ground (if they exist - or rather, there is someone in CAPITALIST relations, this is still being done)...

There is ONLY ONE hope for protected areas and regional CC (if they were written, of course, by people who know something about this or are sane - who asked knowledgeable people what to protect and where ).

Naturally, local officials of all kinds of CC - this is an extra obstacle (SOMETIMES THE ONLY ONE!) in the business of capidalizing and grabbing everything and everything. It is they who are trying to push the idea through the hands of all sorts of ecological rabble to ordinary people - and what is there to protect!? everything has long been extinct or disappeared, go to the zoo and look there (another question is whether there is something rare to see from the local fauna!?). So our collectors are coming to visit you for rarities...

In the same England, a competition is being held for the best "island of wildlife" in urbanized landscapes... What about us? Shame on you, gentlemen...
As M. Prishvin said there - " To love nature means to love the Motherland." So we are raising a young generation "without a family or tribe", who "do not care" what is happening outside the city limits and whether there is life there at all...

mikee -
An interesting question! The yellow bear (Flavia) lives in our country in some kind of mosaic (locally?). We catch both on the settled areas among mixed forests, and in the meadow steppe!? They do not fly well on DRL lights-more often/better on ordinary incandescent lamps!? That is, most of the copies that I received/collected were collected in residential areas in the light or already in the afternoon on the walls. Very unpredictable view!? In some (stationary) points where we've been fishing for decades , we haven't even seen them. And in the neighboring area - please, a banal view pupating even in the yard under firewood... Therefore, they were only included in the list of " requiring special attention..."

I think that the CC of such microscopic regions as Moscow and the regions of European Russia do not make any scientific sense. These are just minor political acts-it is required in the region to have a CC-on-hold. Sometimes, however, writing a CC allows you to summarize some faunal information. That is, there is a benefit, but it would look much more effective on the pages of a magazine - because CC things are not very affordable and very expensive for the consumer.

As I understand it, the meaning of the CC of Moscow is not quite "research". Rather, it is a confrontation with the government of Moscow, housing and utilities, etc., because of which there is a systematic destruction of the city's nature: barbaric mowing of lawns to the ground, where then nothing grows; cleaning and removal of fallen leaves from all lawns and yards, after which the land turns into a stone lifeless desert; destruction of park meadows and clearings, etc. turning them into a Eurogazon (for example, Tsaritsynsky Park, Izmailovsky next in line...); simple development, at first glance ,of "empty land".

For example, I don't want to live in the most disgusting Eurocenosis that the center of Moscow offers me. But I don't want her parkland to die because of the money interests of people who are far from biology, who think that our wildflowers are weeds to be destroyed, and that summer beds made of Dutch horseradish are the height of civilization. They do not think that by destroying the flowers, they destroy the entire complex along the chain ... insects ... birds... animals... us... themselves.

But just after the Red Book comes the list of "Black Book" - what we lost due to economic activity. The result is obvious.

Urbanisation, globalisation-climate warming, atomic bomb,overpopulation, population.Who has the best chance of survival in humans or insects?What kind of insects were created a couple of years ago and what kind of people?

To an insect expert:
You should probably open a thread on the site to discuss insect species that need protection on the territory of Russia. In the latest edition of the CC RF (2001) for the European part of Russia, some minuscule number of insects is given... Yes, and the types of vesma are strange, like a carpenter bee... Perhaps the authors-compilers of the new edition of the Red Book (Animals) will notice this work of field entomologists.

To Alexey Vodorezov:
Preparations have begun for the reprint of the Tambov Region's Cultural Center (Animals), with Roman Ishin (instead of E. Ganzhi) working on lepidoptera.
In Penza region, we have started preparing a new " Management of the CC of the Penza region. Animals, 2010". Send you our pre-future " Message.. 2008" !?