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Now you can attach a photo, not only to species but also subspecies, as well as supra taxa

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Peter Khramov, 14.08.2015 1:40

In order not to waste time, while I understand the update framework for insects, spread new technical functionality further Lepidoptera:
1. The two galleries instead of one (see. The next topic)
2. Snap pictures to any taxon, not only to the mind. Now, when uploading photos, and when you edit in the LC and the moderators shots tally to a taxon at any level. This flag is "determined inaccurately" refers specifically to affix taxon. For example, Papilio sp., Determined inaccurately means that you think that's kind of the genus Papilio, but are not sure they are right.Attention!Now when prostanovka taxon is better to wait avtopodstanovok with the number of taxa than just unsubscribe taxon and press Enter-(in the latter case it is also work, but there may be glitches, for example, in the case of like kind and subgenus - one only name the program will not be able determine where to push through Fautua,propihnet and its one of the options is not necessarily true).
3. Slightly redesigned interface - the new version is less extra clearances and more no harm.In addition, the control unit in the gallery moved to the right column (similar to a directory), and, given the large number of users who do not see the editing of samples in the catalog or the gallery, added more lines in the subtitle to the tip on this subject.
Questions, comments - Wellcome.

Comments

14.08.2015 7:54, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, you need innovation: long overdue. Scattered now tries his visyaki - works.
But I notice the glitch did not work in the gallery if the sample set several parameters. Climb itself, and look better.

14.08.2015 8:27, Peter Khramov

The parameter list for an example of the tabernacle, in which begins to fail.

14.08.2015 11:22, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Not displayed on the left do when no photons expose of a single photographer.

14.08.2015 12:48, Peter Khramov

Ok, thanks for the signal corrected.

14.08.2015 14:25, Alexandr Zhakov

Peter, you need to adjust the inscription under the photos. "The definition of species" on a "Determination", and that will not dock.

14.08.2015 15:14, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Bringing up gender or any other kind except taxon is not a full definition.
This is information that can help determine the final (to type).
For these cases, you can remove the name altogether define.

14.08.2015 16:20, Vasiliy Feoktistov

And further.
Clicking on a photo displays one photo without other photos butterfly species in the right block.
To see more images have to go directly to the form.
So it should be?
Example: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/42186
In this case, I think it would be logical to remove all reference to Submit your picture Hyles zygophylli from the right block on the page, photos instance.Leave you only similar link on the page where you can see all kinds of photos.

14.08.2015 16:27, Peter Khramov

Not at all clear name - it is impossible. "View" correct. For other types of fotam - look. It should all be displayed.

15.08.2015 20:44, Peter Khramov

About the "definition" - corrected.

15.08.2015 21:26, Alexandr Zhakov

Peter, what do you fix it? Everything is as it was: "The definition of species."

15.08.2015 22:50, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, and to comment for this photo Notice: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/42119
There I tried to describe one more nasty thing, too, need to correct.
In short: not showing the rest of the species in the photo page with photos of any one of a butterfly.

16.08.2015 1:34, Peter Khramov

In the gallery you can now select foty identified to subspecies to species, genus or subgenus up and up and up subtribe.
Alexander, there'll not load the update at a time. Now all dynamically loaded.
Basil realized will rule.

17.08.2015 15:23, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, it's all good. Just look at the people not suffering, opedelyaet kind to all. I'm not interested in the tropics, even hang with generic names.

17.08.2015 17:44, Peter Khramov

I mean, I do not suffer?

17.08.2015 18:40, Peter Khramov

Basil, on the other photons of the same species - was a glitch that is associated with the presence / absence of the species subspecies. Who is corrected, it should be the norm.

17.08.2015 20:11, Shamil Murtazin

By the way, if you now have the genera and subgenera in determining whether or not to review the status of "indefinite" photos? ..
Ie Now indefinitely Photo - this photo does not attribute any kind or genus or subgenus-stamped, or tribe.
Either make a separate check box for searches. Otherwise pictures may be lost.Regarding the glitches with no other kind of ph - everything remains the same. I can think about another glitch?

17.08.2015 20:44, Peter Khramov

By status:
Now there are the following gradation:

Tucson undefined - there are no bindings to any taxon. Even, for example, family. Where will these pictures:
1. Old photos from Lepidoptera, which remained from the time when it was possible to tie the photo only to the species, but not to other taxa.
2.New photos, that ship people not understanding at all in any taxa or do not understand how that load / when you download. Tucson determined to species or subspecies to - well, if there are further confirmation of fidelity definition, but in general, believe that everything is OK
Tucson determined to subgenus or higher - it requires a definition to the species or subspecies to (if possible).

Apart from all this is the jackdaw "imprecise definition."It is not relevant for the variant "taxon is not defined," but it is appropriate in the case to determine the type / subtype, and in the case of determining to superspecies taxon. And she says that, most likely it is that's it, but it is not 100% sure. IeThis property carries payload data: the user sees is not just Papilio sp, but "most likely view a certain" and although it recognizes that it is only "likely", not "just".So I think that to remove this checkbox will not have to, but it can be confusing (inaccurate determination we have, it turns out, is not a definition to superspecies taxon, as many believe, a definition to any taxon, but not 100% sure), and Furthermore, it may cause some damage "seriousness" of the site,bo "imprecise definition of" in entomology, is usually not used.

Perhaps the solution lies in the plane of terminology - to call the whole thing as something else, so that there was less confusion and the seriousness is not going away, but the information load remained.By glitches with fotami:
Shamil, throw off a reference to a problem page, I see.

17.08.2015 21:38, Alexandr Zhakov

Not tormented not identify to the species level, if you can put some kind, bіvayut cases where you can not really determine genital types, and sometimes when you have to dig deep, and it takes a lot of time. Easier to family or to family.
And the question of the definition of priority.One identified to the family, the other to the family, to the third type, the fourth tried to indicate a subspecies. Who determined.?

17.08.2015 21:59, Peter Khramov

If the determination to species - the author is to determine the type (and not to the kind, etc.) If, before the subspecies - I do not know. Good question. On the one hand, it is logical to put that to one subspecies and identified.On the other hand, sub-species - this thing is so optional that the value is to determine the subspecies is usually not so high as to species, so that the contribution of someone determined to species, more.
Maybe both?))

17.08.2015 22:04, Alexandr Zhakov

I agree, determine the form of mandatory subspecies is desirable, but not necessary, if possible. :)

17.08.2015 22:08, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Identified in the final stage of the one who brought to the form (subspecies does not count is optional) :)

Here for example: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/14516
It has long been common knowledge that this Euploea sp. simply was not possible in the race to deliver.
And to kind of pipe with them .....
At most there are: undefined, large and beautiful.But do not even think to put as defined herein as they are not likely, if ((
And others as well: just an opportunity to kind of put. That puts the people that do not hanging in uncertain.

17.08.2015 22:21, Peter Khramov

Basil, I'm a little redaktanul your comments if you disagree - call to your phone. And if you agree - note.

17.08.2015 23:14, Vasiliy Feoktistov

A daw "inaccurate" nowhere clean is not necessary. It is certainly needed.
About renaming: it is possible and "approximate determination." As such an option?
"It seems it is, but something confusing and does not allow to say that the kind of precisely defined"
Or just call daw "definitely needs to be confirmed"
In general I think is optimal?

18.08.2015 11:34, Dmitriy Pozhogin

What's the difference who identified? Surname determine not carry any load! And under the photo you can read all versions or to see who defined.
Regarding inaccurate opredeleniya- need to use a different formulation (Kind of photo undetectable, genital differences, etc.) If a species distinguishable habitually, but not visible in the photo priznakov- distinctive kind of undecided (up kind only).
And about Euploea - Basil - you're wrong)))

18.08.2015 11:54, Peter Khramov

How is it determined the surname does not bear the load? It responsible for determining, with him to ask why, they say, have decided that it is, and not something out, etc. If this right is not explicitly specified, then the people will feel that determined who was shooting, and it is often not the case.And under fotoy in comments is not always evident, and most importantly - not all guess look.
Inaccurate:
In this fote (or general appearance) the type of undetectable and no additional. infa such as geography does not help. Then, of course, we set up the genus / subgenus.But there are also intermediate or even another thing the situation:
- For this fote undetectable, but near the sea sfotat other individuals who have defined views
- View undetectable in appearance, but can be relatively easily judged by geography / location
- Determine the type, but determining not 100% sure
What can I say, open a gallery inaccurate ph,1438 pieces there now, do you think that for all of them as the alleged infa carries no payload that can be put to their kind, and nothing it does not lose anything?

18.08.2015 12:19, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Until kind))) and will be 100% correct opredelnnye.
Open gallery inaccurate ph, 1438 pieces out there now, do you think that for all of them as the alleged infa carries no payload SHALL NOT BE

18.08.2015 22:53, Peter Khramov

Hmm. Okay, who else thinks that on inaccurate? Demitra zёrny sow doubt.

19.08.2015 9:27, Alexandr Zhakov

Two criteria to determine the type of:
1. The types of genital photo is not defined.
2. The author does not know the definition of a number of species of the genus, and their images have no place to look.
Well, the worst option, the author of the definition of a fig does not know and vanities like the first race. We may very well be so. Trite and confuse species and race.Dmitry says good head agree, no heart, not habitually, have become accustomed to catch at Solomenka imprecise definition. Can we keep this in mind for the future? and it is certainly necessary to reduce the number of definitions to the taxon: genus, family, well, can still subfamily.and even so deal with the catalog, even knowing it is practically impossible (terrible confusion), will also be with the pictures above to determine the type, they just can not find. :(

19.08.2015 10:33, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Before podsemeystva- good, but it is too precarious a thing as a taxon. Prior to roll, and the family is enough. I think the person who can define up to subfamilies, reach and kind.

Well, the worst option, the author of the definition of a fig does not know and vanities like the first race. We may very well be so. Trite and confuse species and race.- This is generally not a criterion !!!
Criteria twenty genital types and can not see the distinctive prizdnakov pictured (top or underside)

19.08.2015 14:37, Peter Khramov

Regarding the search ph determined to intermediate taxa, there are no problems. Now the gallery has a corresponding sample. Ie if we know the tribe, the tribe, and to carry, no need to be limited to family / subfamily. And there is no need to think that "the person who can." People are different, the situation is different. Well, he came to the kind of means that are not reached.The sense in simply no restrictions. If you do have - write more, it is good to a concrete example.
Regarding inaccurate - continue the discussion.

19.08.2015 16:02, Alexandr Zhakov

An example of perfection catalog: Lemonia born in the family. Brahmaeidae, and this and that. Lemoniidae separately. If I determined to seed. the genus I shall come or does not.
The revelers after podsemeyst all so confusing, knowing that the race to find him in the tribes, subtribe lot of hard work.

19.08.2015 16:16, Peter Khramov

And what kind of look in the tribes / subtribe? And why go to the genus (in the context of the topic)?
With regards to the imperfections - of course, you have to edit things, but it is not dependent on the binding / neprivyazki to taxa ph.

19.08.2015 16:33, Alexandr Zhakov

I agree, look, it does not depend on the binding. The question is, why you might need to sample some subspecies? And how could it be inaccurate determination of the genus and family. Probably I should really uhotit of imprecisely defined.

19.08.2015 16:35, Alexandr Zhakov

Not kosaemo theme. But where to look for kind, if in the family there? climb deeper, subfamily, tribe, subtribe and find I can not use because they do not know how to kind of spell. :)

19.08.2015 16:41, Peter Khramov

Different people need different sample. And another opportunity to hurt nobody. As for the technical part - the sample well subspecies check glitches in the binding.
Imprecisely to the genus and family can be exactly the same as before the species. Like, that's the kind of, but not 100% sure.Not with regards to the theme - as I wrote above, the tree taxa need to rectify, this is no argument there. Well, if the question is not on the site, and in technology in general, then, even if some know how to spell the genus, Google it. Googol substitute similar options, and the site can not seek similarity with a ready way.

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