Plans for 2010

That's right, it's time to plan ))
Probably somewhere in the Caucasus.. But I don't know yet. So far, only trips around the country are accurate )

Either Kazakhstan or Mongolia. There is a possibility that I will need a travel companion. It's not clear yet. Of course, one or two exits to the Altai. It can be brief for a week or 10 days in Tuva. At least 3-4 field trips.

There are some ideas, but I won't say anything yet, I'll just say that MO is definitely present there!!!

I have a plan: Bulgar, Pirin Mountains, villages. Miller, how will it be?! And what *money* is needed for 2-3 weeks. Do you know an escapade to Uzbekistan? Late - RR

In the first half of summer - the Lower Volga
In the second-the Altai Territory

And I love my homeland!!! CRIMEA! CRIMEA! And once again CRIMEA!!!!!!!!!

And I love my homeland!!! CRIMEA! CRIMEA! And once again CRIMEA!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I was this year... And I would like to say again ,... Okoyem congratulations!!!
thank you "rhopalocera" for the info

This post was edited by dispar-09.12.2009 22: 14

Uzbekistan alone or even 2-3 is not recommended. In the province, people are very angry with whites because of the construction of a dam in Kyrgyzstan and the near prospect of leaving cotton fields in Uzbekistan without water. At least 5 people need to go.

Again, some absurd statements about our independent state!
If you have any plans to travel to our region, please contact us, I will help you in any way I can.
The western Tien Shan in the form of the Chatkal ridge and other nearby areas (~100 km from Tashkent) is easily accessible, i.e. in a 1.5-hour drive zone. The Hissar foothills are also relatively freely accessible, although not close to Tashkent (~300 km).
Kyzylkum Desert-requires more thorough training and preparation (from 400 km).
It is more difficult in the Ferghana Valley (~300 km) due to the increased population density and intensive agricultural activity. In addition, the foothills of the Ferghana Valley are close to the borders of the republic and therefore not everywhere is free to visit.
Since the end of February, fishing has already begun on the plains and in the foothills. The end of the mass summer usually falls at the end of July. But even in August and September, you can still catch by climbing higher (over 2000 m). Often some species are found in November and even in December. Of course, with the appropriate weather conditions. In particular, this year the burdocks in my office garden in the center of Tashkent were fed on the blooming ivy in mid-November.
And don't scare each other with rumors! I have been living in Tashkent since 1985 (by the way, I came here from Russia) and have never (!) experienced any problems related to the national issue. Moreover, such problems are not peculiar to the outback, where the people are by definition more hospitable to newcomers, and even more so to foreigners, who in the current reality are also Russians, even more so.
If you have plans to visit Uzbekistan for entomological purposes, please contact us.

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I was in Uzbekistan in 2003.. For work.. It is symbolic that we were accompanied by a local KGB officer.. At first, we were nervous about this, but then we were even happy: he deftly solved all everyday problems, helped with everything. Yes, we did not have any overlaps and conflicts with local residents (which is understandable - we hung out either in the center of Khiva-Bukhara-Tashkent, or made stops with a security guard), but some underlying sediment still remained.. At least from such trifles as the Khiva airport, where our Asian janitors and other proletarians of intellectual labor were dramatically transformed, stood in one queue, and did not allow "whites" to enter it at all (we had to pass passport control last)! Multiplied by some not very pleasant information from people I trust (for example, I also went to South Africa without jambs, and my colleagues were severely robbed right in the rich quarter of Durban).. And when weighing your travel options, you tend to prefer Turkey (for example) rather than Uzbekistan..

I was in Uzbekistan in 2003.. For work.. It is symbolic that we were accompanied by a local KGB officer.. At first, we were nervous about this, but then we were even happy: he deftly solved all everyday problems, helped with everything. Yes, we did not have any overlaps and conflicts with local residents (which is understandable - we hung out either in the center of Khiva-Bukhara-Tashkent, or made stops with a security guard), but some underlying sediment still remained.. At least from such trifles as the Khiva airport, where our Asian janitors and other proletarians of intellectual labor were dramatically transformed, stood in one queue, and did not allow "whites" to enter it at all (we had to pass passport control last)! Multiplied by some not very pleasant information from people I trust (for example, I also went to South Africa without jambs, and my colleagues were severely robbed right in the rich quarter of Durban).. And when weighing your travel options, you tend to prefer Turkey (for example) rather than Uzbekistan..

I do not lure anyone to Uzbekistan and do not advertise its advantages, which, compared to Turkey, are probably less here. I only offered my best help, both in informative and organizational terms, to people who are going to visit our region. I think my experience as an "old-timer" will not interfere with the implementation of someone's intentions.
If a person wants to come to us, I don't think they will regret it. If someone is looking for a reason not to come here, then there are hundreds of such reasons. Well, if the forum posts are intended to discuss "the taste of oysters with people who ate them", then I think such attacks on the whole country are not entirely correct. They only frighten the willing and annoy the knowledgeable.
In any case, statements based on certain accidents cannot create an objective description of the place. I think no one will leave Russia just because, for example, your crime rate is several times higher than in Uzbekistan, or because of a number of tragic cases recently...
We all have a sufficient number of negative memories from visiting a particular place, but the task is to implement our plans in the best possible way, avoiding troubles that can be prevented by awareness and corrections of behavior and actions.
If someone is initially interested not in the local entomological fauna, but in a comfortable pastime, then we do not have the Turkish service (and the "Soviet" one, too). Although maybe this is the beauty of our wild lands?..

I plan a trip to East Yakutia, Chersky district, in parallel with the place of work. Can someone tell me what is found there from butterflies, and, most importantly, when the years begin there?))))

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I won't argue with you. senselessly. I know Uzbekistan firsthand and very well. a totalitarian nationalist state with all its consequences.

As I understand it, entomology and travel plans are discussed here, not political speculation. Politics can hardly be linked to entomology.
If we interpret your lack of appeal as a protest against the existing order in Uzbekistan, then I think such maxims are appropriate in specific forums. I do not think that this place is visited by persons responsible for the state of affairs in the state...

As I understand it, entomology and travel plans are discussed here, not political speculation. Politics can hardly be linked to entomology.
If we interpret your lack of appeal as a protest against the existing order in Uzbekistan, then I think such maxims are appropriate in specific forums. I do not think that this place is visited by those responsible for the state of affairs in the state...

If you don't engage in politics, it will engage you (S). And you will not be up to entomology...
By the way, "persons responsible for the state of affairs in the state", IMHO, are less interested and concerned about this state than all of us.

Yes lan To you, Sergey... Who needs it - they will contact, of course...

I have long been hatching a plan for an expedition to the North Caucasus in search of" traces " of Tolstun steppe. Time passes, and now it seems that there is no time to implement this plan yourself. Work, family, son. There is a great desire to act as a coordinator of such a project. Abstract-I propose to organize a fundraiser through a trusted authority in the world of entomologists ( of course, the same person is also ready to help financially), to provide the necessary equipment and equipment for temporary use by the time of the expedition ( for example, a set of photo lenses for cameras, etc.) .

I have long been hatching a plan for an expedition to the North Caucasus in search of" traces " of Tolstun steppe. Time passes, and now it seems that there is no time to implement this plan yourself. Work, family, son. There is a great desire to act as a coordinator of such a project. Abstract-I propose to organize a fundraiser through a trusted authority in the world of entomologists ( of course, the same person is also ready to help financially), to provide the necessary equipment and equipment for temporary use by the time of the expedition ( for example, a set of photo lenses for cameras, etc.).

I will invest 7 rubles 21 kopek

I will invest 7 rubles and 21 kopecks

Oh, come on! Don't be too tight, invest at least 8 rubles.

Plans... plans... But I'm still not going to go across the road for Propomacrus...

Faq?!I'd like to be more specific-I'll go.After all, it is known from a few rare finds.More deer are found than propomakrus-ov

Oh, come on! Don't be too tight, invest at least 8 rubles.

You see, not everything can be measured in monetary signs, other advice is more expensive than the ringing of coins, although the price of banknotes should not be underestimated, I speak as an accountant. In general, as I understand it, no one is interested in such projects.

You see, not everything can be measured in monetary signs, other advice is more expensive than the ringing of coins, although the price of banknotes should not be underestimated, I speak as an accountant. In general, as I understand it, no one is interested in such projects.

No offense, we're just kidding.
But seriously:
Custom trips have been practiced for a long time, and there are people who have funded more than one expedition. And if your idea finds like-minded people , why not?
I, specifically, your fat man "on the drum". I love bonuses, and to get some of them I am ready to "invest".

Taler(у). Don't take jokes seriously.

Oh,I see everyone here goes on expeditions.People are lucky!

By the next season, I'm going to buy a generator with a light trap and hang around the expanses of my native Ivanovo region in search of various interesting representatives of the lepidopterous fauna.Unfortunately, there is no hope for more.You can only travel to neighboring regions (Vla Dimirskaya, Yaroslavl, etc.)-this is the maximum.

Oh,I see everyone here goes on expeditions.People are lucky!

By the next season, I'm going to buy a generator with a light trap and hang around the expanses of my native Ivanovo region in search of various interesting representatives of the lepidopterous fauna.Unfortunately, there is no hope for more.You can only travel to neighboring regions (Vla Dimirskaya, Yaroslavl, etc.)-this is the maximum.

In the Ivanovo region there is a place-a fairy tale.. Sezukh-Purezhka-the coast of Lukh... there's a lot going on there... Apollo hundreds of palm-sized prions in sight..Buprestides.. paleno, Orion Rivularis and many other things the place is wonderful I wish I could get there again.
And also optette and the whole set of meliteds were also served Who was fishing there

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In the Ivanovo region there is a place-a fairy tale.. Sezukh-Purezhka-the coast of Lukh... there's a lot going on there... Apollo hundreds of palm-sized prions in sight..Buprestides.. paleno, Orion Rivularis and many other things the place is wonderful I wish I could get there again.
And also optette and the whole set of meliteds were also served Who was fishing there

The newly released Eversmannia contains a lot about the bombycoid complex of this region.

In the Ivanovo region there is a place-a fairy tale.. Sezukh-Purezhka-the coast of Lukh... there's a lot going on there... Apollo hundreds of palm-sized prions in sight..Buprestides.. paleno, Orion Rivularis and many other things the place is wonderful I wish I could get there again.
And also optette and the whole set of meliteds were also served Who was fishing there

Yes, the place is probably really wonderful.In the coming season, it will be necessary to visit there.

"it's a wonderful place, I wish I could get there again."


If you ever find yourself in the vicinity of Ivanov, then stop by my place.I will always be glad.

Yes, the place is probably really wonderful.In the coming season, it will be necessary to visit there.

"it's a wonderful place, I wish I could get there again."
If you ever find yourself in the vicinity of Ivanov, then stop by my place.I will always be glad.

Thank you More conveniently via the Bottom one... Dzerzhinsk is just around the corner there

This post was edited by Macroglossum - 12/19/2009 14: 48

Protey2: I've been meaning to ask for a long time: if you go to the Tashkent ROC at the end of October, is there a chance to return with a decent catch (for BEETLES) and an unbroken face? And then they write here that you can't go there alone, Lusha...

And what can you collect at the end of October in the Tashkent region? Half-dead black-calves? I was there at the beginning of November, and I didn't get the feeling that this is the best time and place to gather. For comparison, there were still butterflies flying in Khiva. Yes, the face is completely intact:)

It is more convenient to go through the Lower one... Dzerzhinsk is just around the corner there:)

What's in Dzerzhinsk?

Protey2: I've been meaning to ask for a long time: if you go to the Tashkent ROC at the end of October, is there a chance to return with a decent catch (for BEETLES) and an unbroken face? And then they write here that you can't go there alone, Lusha...

To earn money in the "muzzle of the face" you will need to try hard. Rather, representatives of the local authorities will invite you to celebrate the arrival of a prominent Russian biologist with them... And you will have to undermine your health with local vodka (not very much) and pilaf (very much). Yes, and the collection of beetles is usually carried out in places remote from housing, and therefore it is highly likely to meet only a flock of sheep with a shepherd, who is entomologized as an "icon - Papuan" (C).
But I hasten to disappoint you. At the end of October, you can hardly catch anything interesting in our foothills. In our latitudes, the activity of insects tends to the spring period (synchronously with the period of plant growth). Starting from July, the species composition decreases sharply, and by the end of August, fishing is very episodic and fairly predictable (usually 2nd generation). In the desert, however, there is still autumn activity (mainly blackbirds), but the desert begins at a distance of about 400 km from Tashkent and therefore does not belong to the surrounding area.
We need to catch beetles on the plains from the end of February to the beginning of May. Then you need to climb the mountains. You can hunt there, depending on the altitude, until the end of July, and in some places (high-altitude plateaus) also in August. Well, then it's better to focus on butterflies.
Of course, some beetle species are found before frosts (December), but I do not think that because of them it is worth filling the stain...

And what can you collect at the end of October in the Tashkent region? Half-dead black-calves? I was there at the beginning of November, and I didn't get the feeling that this is the best time and place to gather. For comparison, there were still butterflies flying in Khiva. Yes, the face is completely intact:)

At least their birthmarks. And on karabusam, plastinchatousym, barbel, etc. Quite naked???

... ... ...Rather, representatives of the local authorities will invite you to celebrate the arrival of a prominent Russian biologist with them... And you will have to undermine your health with local vodka (not very much) and pilaf (very much).
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... Catching beetles...
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...it is better to focus on butterflies...
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Uzbek pilaf is extremely tempting...
Catch something okay... What about export?!

At least their birthmarks. And on karabusam, plastinchatousym, barbel, etc. Quite naked???

Almost-yes. Maybe some kind of small-scale Carbide and a small dung plate will get caught. But it is better to spend money on Tai, if the question is about October (a trip to Uzbekistan does not cost 3 kopecks). Although even there it is no longer the best time, as I understand it.

Uzbek pilaf is extremely tempting...
Catch something okay... What about export?!

Well, you can meet karabuses. Piece by piece. Poecilus sp., Pterostichus sp., can old-timers Zabrus, Amara... Along the banks of mountain rivers, where there are peculiar biotopes that usually remain green until late autumn.
I don't think so. I haven't seen it. The latest ones I've caught are prionuses. They are found at 2000 m in mid-July. Although I caught a female balassogloi this year on August 15, but, however, in the mountains at 1600 m.
Plates?.. Well, there will be aphodia for sure. A couple of types. Maybe ontophages. Long-lived individuals. Others are unlikely. At least I don't have any instances of this time in my collection.
There are elephants. In particular, I have a collection of Coniocleonus nigrosuturatus with a label from 17.10.09 (by the way, they are also from 28.03.09). I also came across some small things from elephants at this time, but so far I have straightened and not determined.
Leaf beetles are likely.
That's probably all. But if you are still in our region, then contact me-we will try .

Uzbek pilaf is extremely tempting...
Catch something okay... What about export?!

According to the law, fishing is allowed only if you have a license from the State Committee for Natural Resources. But in this glorious committee I was told that no one has been given such a card yet and advised me not to complicate my life...
Accordingly, when exporting fees, if you arouse suspicion and find dry land, then problems are quite possible. I haven't encountered it, but I'm sure it's solvable.
So far, for two years of sending material to Moscow through various fellow travelers, no one has found anything.
But the only hope is for the probability of a successful outcome. According to the law, you will still be wrong. Although not criminally provable .

Thank you:) It is more convenient to go through the Lower one... Dzerzhinsk is just around the corner there:)

Where does this come from and where is it more convenient???

Well karabusov meet you can.
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That's probably all. But if you are still in our region, then contact me - we will try .

Well, I'm interested in wasps...

Well, I'm interested in wasps...

Then I will prescribe you spring-summer :- )
Although scolias fly before frosts and something else is striped and stinging. Alas, I'm not an expert...
But in the spring (May-June) in the mountains-some kind of horror from the eaves.

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Sergey! Send your coordinates to my email address, please. Any interest in Chatkal and Talas