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21.02.2014 18:53, stierlyz

And it was impossible to make a column in the survey: "I'm not a moth, I don't care"? I would have had a place to vote... As for the site - very cool. In addition, unlike publishing, there is an option to add / delete/edit. The position of malicious and abusive criticism in relation to the site is not clear to me. But when you see a hack in "Chervoniy knizi" or "Denny's snowstorms", the reaction is different. Hypothetically, let's assume that all the authors of the site are still laymen and hack. So what??? Who does this bother? If you don't like it, don't read it...
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22.02.2014 10:56, Valentinus

.. In addition, unlike publishing, there is an option to add / delete/edit. The position of malicious and abusive criticism in relation to the site is not clear to me. But when you see a hack in "Chervoniy knizi" or "Denny's snowstorms", the reaction is different. Hypothetically, let's assume that all the authors of the site are still laymen and hack. So what??? Who does this bother? If you don't like it, don't read it...

I agree. Website - a constantly updated and updated database. This is how it differs from a publication that is outdated at the time of its release.
Combining observations of different authors in one database allows you to quickly get information that meets the current level of development of taxonomy and faunistics.
I would like to believe that thanks to our website, the number of low-quality publications on faunistics of the Caucasus has decreased.
About the hack. On the website Daytime butterflies of the Moscow region there are icons of 62 entomological sites. Can you give me an example of at least one hack? Freedom of criticism makes this impossible.

22.02.2014 13:43, Лавр Большаков

Every single one of them is a hack, except for the section of pigeons in the Caucasus. And there are no positive developments. On the contrary, some sharikovian rejection of everything new and positive.

10.04.2014 17:05, Alveig

Gentlemen.your site is pretty damn good.Not once has he been very helpful to my husband and me.keep it up more pictures more information.Ideally, it would be great to create a selection of similar sites throughout our country and neighboring countries.publishing is a good thing but technology has already gone too far and I can take a tablet in the field and the same Bauer's books or Tuzov's two-volume book won't fit in my purse.and sometimes you want to identify a butterfly while still in a hotel and not at home.in general, improve and prosper
With respect Ekaterina and Ilya Ramaikin.
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31.10.2014 21:58, swerig

You can always leave an unnecessary site, and make something, even if not perfect, is work!
Good luck, do not throw away the right thing!!! beer.gif
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06.11.2014 12:30, Penzyak

Something is not clear with the Russian names of species on the site !??
I am currently working on a new edition of the CC for Tomsk - a directive has been received to bring Russian names to logical uniformity. In other words, the type name must consist of the generic and specific names. There was a problem with sailboats - I started looking at names everywhere, including on your site... Somewhere you have introduced modern innovations - for example, Maculinea software was replaced with a more accurate Phengaris ... and mnemosyne has an old generic Parnassius mnemosyne (Linnaeus, 1758) - Apollo mnemosyne... Something about the Russian name of that let me down.... And to be honest, I cringe from such names as, for example, Apollo ordinary... is it that somewhere there is an extraordinary view...?? Again, it seems that everyone agreed to write proper names in honor of whom the butterfly is named in the Russian transcription with a capital letter and why do you have - Parnassius nordmanni [Ménétriès], [1850] - Apollo Nordmann...? series of the type. Again, what about writing double letters in the Russian transcription? Spelled as heard or translated...?

06.11.2014 13:46, Лавр Большаков

Something is not clear with the Russian names of species on the site !??
I am currently working on a new edition of the CC for Tomsk - a directive has been received to bring Russian names to logical uniformity. In other words, the type name must consist of the generic and specific names. There was a question about sailboats ...


National names in general and Russian names in particular do not have to consist of generic and specific names!
As for sailboats specifically, on this site, if memory serves, almost everything is about Lviv-Morgun. Their nonsense in Russian names (and partly in other languages). aspects) cannot be taken into account.
There are names of the gods-Apollo, Mnemosyne-that's all the names smile.gif
Well, sometimes they also write childbirth - for example, "Mnemosyne's sailboat". And a combination like "Apollo Mnemosyne" is nonsense, just like "Ivan Marya". smile.gif

06.11.2014 13:56, Alexandr Zhakov

Did I miss something? A code of Russian animal names has appeared? Have Russian names become binary? Should the generic name be capitalized? What is "logical uniformity"?, if everyone has their own logic. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
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06.11.2014 15:49, Andrey Bezborodkin

Did I miss something? A code of Russian animal names has appeared? Have Russian names become binary? Should the generic name be capitalized? What is "logical uniformity"?, if everyone has their own logic. smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

There was once a study on this topic in the book of K. Efetov. But this, of course, is not a code or a letter of the law. These are just national names that are constantly being tried to"learn". Was there a directive for Red Books? I wonder whose.
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06.11.2014 16:49, Valentinus

It will be difficult to reach a consensus in the atmosphere of mutual intolerance that Mr. Bolshakov is fanning, but we can try. Let's see what happens...

There really isn't a code for Russian names. But there is a code of Latin names.
Why not use these rules, even if only in a simplified version?
The type name consists of two words. The first means belonging to a genus or family, and the second-a specific epithet.
We write the specific epithet with a small letter, regardless of its origin.
The first word is with a large one.
It seems to me that this simple rule, which is generally accepted for scientific names, is also quite suitable for the names of insects, which have almost no well-established Russian names.

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